Re: CS>Any info on the "silver lungs"?

[Sandee George]

For Ode - You got that one right - all delusion 
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CS>Any info on the "silver lungs"?

[Ode Coyote]

  I don't recall having presented an image to spoil. [g]
..ya'll made it all up and it is what you think it is.

Ode


At 05:21 PM 1/16/2011 -0400, you wrote:

Once again Ode, it just shows how long you have been fooling around
with this process, you know it so well, I will not venture a year
amount cause that will spoil your image !!!Thanks for all this
info 

Regards
Sandee


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Re: CS>Any info on the "silver lungs"?

[Sandee George]

Once again Ode, it just shows how long you have been fooling around  
with this process, you know it so well, I will not venture a year  
amount cause that will spoil your image !!!Thanks for all this  
info 


Regards
Sandee


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Re: CS>Any info on the "silver lungs"?

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 1/15/2011 7:11:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
anugal_...@hotmail.com writes:

Hello  gang!

I'm curious if anybody knows anything about the "silver  lungs" generator 
at silverlungs.com? I like the fact that you can control the  ionic/particle 
ratio, but it is an expensive unit! Does it differ much from  the 
"silvergen" or "silver puppy" to justify the price?

Anyone  with knowledge of this unit, please let me know!

Thank  you!
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Re: CS>Any info on the "silver lungs"?

[Ode Coyote]

It looks like a decent gen, but  it's no different. [Except the silvergen 
doesn't alternate polarity and uses top down stirring] The Colloid-Master 
777 does alternate polarity, but no stirrer.
..just thought I'd toss the Colloid Master in as it hasn't been mentioned 
in a while and for the money, not a bad unit and easily made better by the 
user.


The  way the [silverlungs...impressively beefy] electrodes are made and 
placed will sharpen them into needles with unevenly distributed current 
density. [Tip discharge]  [Bend the tips slightly away from each other 
...or get them out of the water]
Since the ion to particle ratio is more an environmental variable than 
anything else, it's not likely the ratio control claim is true unless using 
the same jug of water in the same environment each time.
 Changing the polarity shift frequency to faster does seem to tweek the 
ratio down to some extentlikely by sucking more of the ions back onto 
the electrode when the polarity changes, leaving the non charged particles 
out there.
[I can't find that claim anyhow, or the means by which it is done.  Where 
is it?]


Fred Sprague, using a polarity shifting device and magnetic stirrer ["Smart 
Silver" from Custom Electronics LLC...a very nice unit no longer made] had 
been fighting a mega flake situation for years. [No big deal, they do 
settle out]
Turned out that reducing the stir speed to very slow dramatically reduced 
flake formation and the Silverlungs stirrer does have 2 speeds. [Slow 
stirring also reduces "greybeard" with a DC output unit ]

 It's very hard to get a stir motor to go slow and not just stop.

Not a bad price on the nebulizer, but cheaper from Amazon.com
Include the convenience factor, pretty good deal I suppose.

oops..a bit of Barwick spread mis-info
"Tiny silver ions and particles (traditionally called "colloidal silver") 
has been officially banned in The European Union through 
Codex Alimentarius. As 
of the first day of the new year of 2010, colloidal silver can no longer be 
sold as a dietary or nutritional supplement in health food stores within 
The European Union. "


..implying that you can't buy CS in the EU anymore.

 You can still buy CS as a disinfectant in the EUmight NEVER have been 
sold as a dietary or nutritional supplement [EU peeps confirm or 
deny  ..did the label change?]
 I label generators sent to the EU as Mineral Water Makers.  They always 
get there.  [Germany can be tricky on occasion when using APO delivery. 
Gotta hold your mouth right when staring at customs officials and gargle 
out something ignorant ...like "mouth wash" or pet supply?]


Silver has no nutritional or dietary niche anyway, which is why it isn't 
toxic like micro-nutrient metals can be, so the labeling and sale as such 
is a misnomer to start with...an inaccuracy conveniently being overlooked 
by the FDA who as much as said they don't want to even look at the stuff in 
their "Final Statement"  [Go away kid, stop looking for approval of 
something we don't find any need to test when we also don't have the funds 
to test it..if you insist, we'll just say no, so shut up and do want you 
want to.  IF you have a problem, maybe THEN call us ?..we just can't seem 
to find any to address other than labeling.  And BTW  "Not proven safe and 
effective" doesn't mean unsafe or ineffective...get it? ]


"No other manufacturer of colloidal silver generators offers a complete 
solution for direct delivery throughout the entire body as well as the 
proper UV protected glassware and applicators required to preserve and 
protect your self-produced silver solutions."  [as though it needed that or 
an Erlenmeyer flask was any different than a measuring cup or colored glass 
bottles serve any real function with a non photo reactive liquid such as 
pure silver ions and electrochemical byproducts made in pure water]


 "Crash Course" uses a TEM photo to show particle sizes...as oxidized by 
drying ions so a TEM CAN photograph them, the vast majority those particles 
were never in the water to have been photographed.  It's ions made much 
larger as silver oxide to make a claim of small..and far too numerous and 
densely packed to represent a particle ratio of  85% ionic to 15% 
particulate, much less 97% or whatever where only 3% of the space 
photographed would have any particles in it at all.
 If a TEM image did show a particle that WAS in the water, it may take a 
while to find it, given a limited field of view.


This is what CS "actually" looks like...while wet. [note how few particles 
there are, accurately representing the ion to particle ratio.  I'm not 
aware of any device that can photograph an ion. ]

http://silverpuppy.com/csh2o2.html

"Silver particles are also produced in a smaller ratio as "grains" of 
silver. These grains of silver are detached from the same crystallized 
structure of the silver electrodes as a secondary result of ion produc

RE: CS>Any info on the "silver lungs"?

[Neville Munn]

EIS/CS production using LVDC operates on a basic principal, anything added to 
that basic principal will be by way of additions/modifications to the equipment 
for the purpose of making it easier and/or more convenient for the producer.  
Other than that, they all produce the same stuff.  And if producing volume, 
stirring is a *must*.
 
The only form of ion/particle ratio 'control?' I know of *outside* of a 
laboratory controlled environment, would be *when* it's consumed after 
production.  To my knowledge a LVDC EIS/CS generator will not produce a totally 
ionic solution.  It may be high in positively electrically charged silver ion 
content initially *immediately* after cessation of production, but for every 
hour thereafter some of those positively charged ions will be lost to ion 
clusters {particles} until a point of solution stability is reached.

N.
 



From: anugal_...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:10:59 -0500
Subject: CS>Any info on the "silver lungs"?




Hello gang!
 
I'm curious if anybody knows anything about the "silver lungs" generator at 
silverlungs.com? I like the fact that you can control the ionic/particle ratio, 
but it is an expensive unit! Does it differ much from the "silvergen" or 
"silver puppy" to justify the price?
 
Anyone with knowledge of this unit, please let me know!
 
Thank you!