Re: CS>CS metered comparisons.

2008-11-15 Thread Neville

Yep Yep, I see the point you're making Ode. Thanks for that.

N.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS metered comparisons.





 I think you are comparing 4 or 5 different things pointing to an 
contaminant effect [as evidenced by the different colors] not related to 
the instruments OR silver..that "random" is giving you dots to connect.

 Two different logarithms are bound to intersect somewhere.
At some point a light meter, a radiation counter and thermometer are going 
to give you the same numberuse conductivity and forget the rest.


Ode


At 10:14 PM 11/14/2008 +1030, you wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS metered comparisons.


[Color has virtually nothing to do with PPM. Ode]

KCl 14.1ppm
NaCl   14.4ppm

KCl   6.8ppm
NaCl 6.3ppm
-I was more interested in the similarities with these two Ode.  Thought it 
strange that as the other readings from the Comm meter were all over the 
place, for whatever reason, these two struck me as odd.  I know we are 
looking at 3 different animals here, Hanna meter, Comm KCl and Comm NaCl 
readings, but isn't it odd that these two are so close?  My rather wild 
idea is that the others could have had ions and particle ratios or 
whatever all over the shop, but these figures must be telling me something 
and I am wondering if there is some 'ideal', 'unnatural', or just luck or 
coincidence involved here.  Doesn't it appear odd that these two are so 
close?  Any suggestions or explanations you may come up with, I can put 
together with the colours that I included.  If there *is* some 'ideal' 
result here then I know that clear, and the colour I made a note of could 
encourage me to use both meters in future to attempt to get this result 
repeatable.  I am aware that in all probability I may never see this 
again, however, I am curious. Probably not explaining myself very well. 
Perhaps you can offer an explanation as to why these two readings are so 
close?


Neville.


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Re: CS>CS metered comparisons.

2008-11-15 Thread Ode Coyote



 I think you are comparing 4 or 5 different things pointing to an 
contaminant effect [as evidenced by the different colors] not related to 
the instruments OR silver..that "random" is giving you dots to connect.

 Two different logarithms are bound to intersect somewhere.
At some point a light meter, a radiation counter and thermometer are going 
to give you the same numberuse conductivity and forget the rest.


Ode


At 10:14 PM 11/14/2008 +1030, you wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS metered comparisons.


[Color has virtually nothing to do with PPM. Ode]

KCl 14.1ppm
NaCl   14.4ppm

KCl   6.8ppm
NaCl 6.3ppm
-I was more interested in the similarities with these two Ode.  Thought it 
strange that as the other readings from the Comm meter were all over the 
place, for whatever reason, these two struck me as odd.  I know we are 
looking at 3 different animals here, Hanna meter, Comm KCl and Comm NaCl 
readings, but isn't it odd that these two are so close?  My rather wild 
idea is that the others could have had ions and particle ratios or 
whatever all over the shop, but these figures must be telling me something 
and I am wondering if there is some 'ideal', 'unnatural', or just luck or 
coincidence involved here.  Doesn't it appear odd that these two are so 
close?  Any suggestions or explanations you may come up with, I can put 
together with the colours that I included.  If there *is* some 'ideal' 
result here then I know that clear, and the colour I made a note of could 
encourage me to use both meters in future to attempt to get this result 
repeatable.  I am aware that in all probability I may never see this 
again, however, I am curious. Probably not explaining myself very 
well.  Perhaps you can offer an explanation as to why these two readings 
are so close?


Neville.


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Re: CS>CS metered comparisons.

2008-11-14 Thread Neville


- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS metered comparisons.


[Color has virtually nothing to do with PPM. Ode]

KCl 14.1ppm
NaCl   14.4ppm

KCl   6.8ppm
NaCl 6.3ppm
-I was more interested in the similarities with these two Ode.  Thought it 
strange that as the other readings from the Comm meter were all over the 
place, for whatever reason, these two struck me as odd.  I know we are 
looking at 3 different animals here, Hanna meter, Comm KCl and Comm NaCl 
readings, but isn't it odd that these two are so close?  My rather wild idea 
is that the others could have had ions and particle ratios or whatever all 
over the shop, but these figures must be telling me something and I am 
wondering if there is some 'ideal', 'unnatural', or just luck or coincidence 
involved here.  Doesn't it appear odd that these two are so close?  Any 
suggestions or explanations you may come up with, I can put together with 
the colours that I included.  If there *is* some 'ideal' result here then I 
know that clear, and the colour I made a note of could encourage me to use 
both meters in future to attempt to get this result repeatable.  I am aware 
that in all probability I may never see this again, however, I am curious. 
Probably not explaining myself very well.  Perhaps you can offer an 
explanation as to why these two readings are so close?


Neville.


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Re: CS>CS metered comparisons.

2008-11-14 Thread Ode Coyote



  Color has virtually nothing to do with PPM.

Ode


At 08:11 AM 11/12/2008 +1030, you wrote:


Hanna TDS 1 meter   Com 100 meter



*Clear  009ppmKCl 14.1ppm

 NaCl 14.4ppm

Colour

Evident   008ppm KCl  6.7ppm

 NaCl 13.6ppm



*Yellow  008ppm KCl   6.8ppm

 NaCl 
6.3ppm




Pink-ish  012ppm KCl 19.4ppm

 NaCl 
9.0ppm




Some meter reading comparisons I made with various CS batches I had noted 
and was a little curious that clear and yellow, (not golden though), seem 
similar with the two comm 100 meter readings.  Not sure what 'colour 
evident' was, unable to determine with certainty using naked eye, 
green-ish/blue-ish maybe?  The 'pink-ish' is how it appeared to my 
eyes.  Pure Water was used and around a tablespoon of previous 8ppm brew 
as seed.  I don't recall getting 'colours' with DW, can't remember, going 
back to DW when I have used my stock up of PW.  Did this testing just as 
an exercise, and all had stabilized over time.  Perhaps someone could 
satisfy my curiousity on the two similar comm meter readings, (as indicated).




N.

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