Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-21 Thread Sam Earle
Here's more on rapeseed/canola oil.

http://www.dldewey.com/canola.htm

Sam

> Rapeseed was not an appealing name changed to Canada oil then changed to
> Canola oil, used in making paint, should you put it in your body?
>
> Ted
>
> Katarina Wittich wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kris,
> > you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are
bad
> > for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil
> > preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic -
but I
> > thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was
okay --
> > other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people.
> >
> > I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES
> > whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl
sulfate
> > are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference
> > between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an
interesting
> > article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel
> > sulfate mught be bad stuff.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Katarina
> >
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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-19 Thread Ivan Anderson
For those interested in the history of oils and why they are bad for
us, and the 'bill of goods' we have been sold:
 http://www.nexusmagazine.com/OilingAmerica.1.html

Also soy online service is back on line, for info about the negative
properties of soy products:
http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/
particularly interesting is the affect of Phytates on mineral
absorption, (thanks Harvey):
http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/soy_toxins.htm

Regards
Ivan


- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 
Sent: Friday, 19 November 1999 15:00
Subject: RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil


> Hi guys,
>
> I am quite interested in these two substances.  The best tortillas
in Santa
> Fe are made with Canola.   I like to get my grimey plumber's hands
> cleane(r)  by washing dishes.  But:
>
> It is now being shown that the rise in heart attacks (MI s, mostly I
think)
> exactly followed the switch from animal fat to trans-fats and
hydrogenated
> industrial vegetable oils.  In the early 1900s heart attacks were
> considered a rare and unusual disease.  Look for Mary Enig on web.
>   Apparently the vegi-oil benefits are mostly a con by the
commodities
> cartels.  Paid-off and threatened researchers and professional
journals and
> all.  The folks who ate muffins (not that kind) and oat meal ...yes,
their
> cholesterol dropped, compared with the pig fat snarffers.But the
guys
> who got the bacon had fewer heart problems in spite of high
cholesterol!
>   Most everything we think we know is a lie.
>
> Anyway, (tripping on an untied shoelace and loosing his  focus and
falling
> off the soapbox)  I would very much appreciate if anyone runs across
any
> good stuff on the benefit/risk of Canola oil and/or laurel sulfate,
please
> point me in the right direction.  Remember they can call it a whole
bunch
> of names: surfactants, ammonium laurel sulfate, and a zillion
others.
>
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
>



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RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-19 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Wong?
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net]
Sent:   Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

who was it that said:
"you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."?

Dennis

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RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Much of the rapeseed---the real name for Canola, (Canadian Oil) is genetically 
engineered.  
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Lisa Raskin DC [SMTP:lras...@mindspring.com]
Sent:   Thursday, November 18, 1999 6:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

Dear Katarina,

I realize that you addressed this to Kris, but I just wanted to say that I
have heard that all canola oil is genetically engineered. 

Lisa



At 03:25 PM 11/18/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Kris, 
>you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad
>for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil
>preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I
>thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay --
>other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people.
>
>I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES
>whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate
>are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference
>between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting
>article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel
>sulfate mught be bad stuff.
>
>Take care,
>Katarina
>
>
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RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread D G
who was it that said:
"you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."?

Dennis

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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread Charles King
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:09:26 -0800, t...@home.com wrote:

>Rapeseed was not an appealing name changed to Canada oil then changed to
>Canola oil, used in making paint, should you put it in your body?
>
>Ted

Yeah,
I read a scary report about canola oil, and we stopped using it. Switched to
olive oils instead. Did you know you can get spray Pam with olive oil?

Chuck
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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread D G
naw. this is WAY before wierd al.

Dennis

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I believe it was "Weird" Al Yankovic

-Original Message-
From: D G 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil


who was it that said:
"you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."?

Dennis

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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread D G
it wasn't woody allen, either.
darn my memory

Dennis

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--- Begin Message ---
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:29:47 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

>who was it that said:
>"you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."?
>
>Dennis

I expect it would be Woody Allen!
Butter is better than margarine (transfatty acids) etc.

Chuck

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
 invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
 a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
 the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
 solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
 a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
 gallantly.
 Specialization is for insects."
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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread Charles King
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:29:47 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

>who was it that said:
>"you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."?
>
>Dennis

I expect it would be Woody Allen!
Butter is better than margarine (transfatty acids) etc.

Chuck

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
 invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
 a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
 the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
 solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
 a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
 gallantly.
 Specialization is for insects."
  Robert Heinlein


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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread Bill Schramm
I believe it was "Weird" Al Yankovic

-Original Message-
From: D G 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil


who was it that said:
"you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."?

Dennis

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RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi guys,

I am quite interested in these two substances.  The best tortillas in Santa 
Fe are made with Canola.   I like to get my grimey plumber's hands 
cleane(r)  by washing dishes.  But:

It is now being shown that the rise in heart attacks (MI s, mostly I think) 
exactly followed the switch from animal fat to trans-fats and hydrogenated 
industrial vegetable oils.  In the early 1900s heart attacks were 
considered a rare and unusual disease.  Look for Mary Enig on web. 
  Apparently the vegi-oil benefits are mostly a con by the commodities 
cartels.  Paid-off and threatened researchers and professional journals and 
all.  The folks who ate muffins (not that kind) and oat meal ...yes, their 
cholesterol dropped, compared with the pig fat snarffers.But the guys 
who got the bacon had fewer heart problems in spite of high cholesterol! 
  Most everything we think we know is a lie.

Anyway, (tripping on an untied shoelace and loosing his  focus and falling 
off the soapbox)  I would very much appreciate if anyone runs across any 
good stuff on the benefit/risk of Canola oil and/or laurel sulfate,  please 
point me in the right direction.  Remember they can call it a whole bunch 
of names: surfactants, ammonium laurel sulfate, and a zillion others.


James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Katarina Wittich [SMTP:kato...@mindspring.com]
Sent:   Thursday, November 18, 1999 3:25 PM
To: Silver A
Subject:CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

Hi Kris,
you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad
for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil
preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I
thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay 
--
other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people.

I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES
whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate
are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference
between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an 
interesting
article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel
sulfate mught be bad stuff.

Take care,
Katarina


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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread tgw0
Rapeseed was not an appealing name changed to Canada oil then changed to
Canola oil, used in making paint, should you put it in your body?

Ted

Katarina Wittich wrote:
> 
> Hi Kris,
> you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad
> for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil
> preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I
> thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay --
> other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people.
> 
> I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES
> whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate
> are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference
> between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting
> article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel
> sulfate mught be bad stuff.
> 
> Take care,
> Katarina
> 
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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread D G
uh?
and i been using it, because i heard it was cholestrol free.
Never Trust Advertising.  find a onelist or eskimo list and get Expert
Opinions.
sorry to be off topic, but...  built stuff? ewww

Dennis

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--- Begin Message ---
Dear Katarina,

I realize that you addressed this to Kris, but I just wanted to say that I
have heard that all canola oil is genetically engineered. 

Lisa



At 03:25 PM 11/18/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Kris, 
>you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad
>for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil
>preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I
>thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay --
>other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people.
>
>I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES
>whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate
>are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference
>between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting
>article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel
>sulfate mught be bad stuff.
>
>Take care,
>Katarina
>
>
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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

1999-11-18 Thread Lisa Raskin DC
Dear Katarina,

I realize that you addressed this to Kris, but I just wanted to say that I
have heard that all canola oil is genetically engineered. 

Lisa



At 03:25 PM 11/18/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Kris, 
>you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad
>for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil
>preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I
>thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay --
>other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people.
>
>I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES
>whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate
>are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference
>between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting
>article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel
>sulfate mught be bad stuff.
>
>Take care,
>Katarina
>
>
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