Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
Here's more on rapeseed/canola oil. http://www.dldewey.com/canola.htm Sam > Rapeseed was not an appealing name changed to Canada oil then changed to > Canola oil, used in making paint, should you put it in your body? > > Ted > > Katarina Wittich wrote: > > > > Hi Kris, > > you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad > > for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil > > preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I > > thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay -- > > other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people. > > > > I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES > > whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate > > are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference > > between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting > > article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel > > sulfate mught be bad stuff. > > > > Take care, > > Katarina > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
For those interested in the history of oils and why they are bad for us, and the 'bill of goods' we have been sold: http://www.nexusmagazine.com/OilingAmerica.1.html Also soy online service is back on line, for info about the negative properties of soy products: http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/ particularly interesting is the affect of Phytates on mineral absorption, (thanks Harvey): http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/soy_toxins.htm Regards Ivan - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Friday, 19 November 1999 15:00 Subject: RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil > Hi guys, > > I am quite interested in these two substances. The best tortillas in Santa > Fe are made with Canola. I like to get my grimey plumber's hands > cleane(r) by washing dishes. But: > > It is now being shown that the rise in heart attacks (MI s, mostly I think) > exactly followed the switch from animal fat to trans-fats and hydrogenated > industrial vegetable oils. In the early 1900s heart attacks were > considered a rare and unusual disease. Look for Mary Enig on web. > Apparently the vegi-oil benefits are mostly a con by the commodities > cartels. Paid-off and threatened researchers and professional journals and > all. The folks who ate muffins (not that kind) and oat meal ...yes, their > cholesterol dropped, compared with the pig fat snarffers.But the guys > who got the bacon had fewer heart problems in spite of high cholesterol! > Most everything we think we know is a lie. > > Anyway, (tripping on an untied shoelace and loosing his focus and falling > off the soapbox) I would very much appreciate if anyone runs across any > good stuff on the benefit/risk of Canola oil and/or laurel sulfate, please > point me in the right direction. Remember they can call it a whole bunch > of names: surfactants, ammonium laurel sulfate, and a zillion others. > > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
Wong? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil who was it that said: "you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
Much of the rapeseed---the real name for Canola, (Canadian Oil) is genetically engineered. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Lisa Raskin DC [SMTP:lras...@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 6:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil Dear Katarina, I realize that you addressed this to Kris, but I just wanted to say that I have heard that all canola oil is genetically engineered. Lisa At 03:25 PM 11/18/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Kris, >you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad >for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil >preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I >thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay -- >other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people. > >I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES >whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate >are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference >between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting >article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel >sulfate mught be bad stuff. > >Take care, >Katarina > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
who was it that said: "you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:09:26 -0800, t...@home.com wrote: >Rapeseed was not an appealing name changed to Canada oil then changed to >Canola oil, used in making paint, should you put it in your body? > >Ted Yeah, I read a scary report about canola oil, and we stopped using it. Switched to olive oils instead. Did you know you can get spray Pam with olive oil? Chuck 42--The answer to life, the universe, and everything -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
naw. this is WAY before wierd al. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- I believe it was "Weird" Al Yankovic -Original Message- From: D G To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:29 PM Subject: RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil who was it that said: "you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
it wasn't woody allen, either. darn my memory Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:29:47 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote: >who was it that said: >"you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."? > >Dennis I expect it would be Woody Allen! Butter is better than margarine (transfatty acids) etc. Chuck "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:29:47 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote: >who was it that said: >"you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."? > >Dennis I expect it would be Woody Allen! Butter is better than margarine (transfatty acids) etc. Chuck "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
I believe it was "Weird" Al Yankovic -Original Message- From: D G To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:29 PM Subject: RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil who was it that said: "you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
Hi guys, I am quite interested in these two substances. The best tortillas in Santa Fe are made with Canola. I like to get my grimey plumber's hands cleane(r) by washing dishes. But: It is now being shown that the rise in heart attacks (MI s, mostly I think) exactly followed the switch from animal fat to trans-fats and hydrogenated industrial vegetable oils. In the early 1900s heart attacks were considered a rare and unusual disease. Look for Mary Enig on web. Apparently the vegi-oil benefits are mostly a con by the commodities cartels. Paid-off and threatened researchers and professional journals and all. The folks who ate muffins (not that kind) and oat meal ...yes, their cholesterol dropped, compared with the pig fat snarffers.But the guys who got the bacon had fewer heart problems in spite of high cholesterol! Most everything we think we know is a lie. Anyway, (tripping on an untied shoelace and loosing his focus and falling off the soapbox) I would very much appreciate if anyone runs across any good stuff on the benefit/risk of Canola oil and/or laurel sulfate, please point me in the right direction. Remember they can call it a whole bunch of names: surfactants, ammonium laurel sulfate, and a zillion others. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Katarina Wittich [SMTP:kato...@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 3:25 PM To: Silver A Subject:CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil Hi Kris, you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay -- other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people. I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel sulfate mught be bad stuff. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
Rapeseed was not an appealing name changed to Canada oil then changed to Canola oil, used in making paint, should you put it in your body? Ted Katarina Wittich wrote: > > Hi Kris, > you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad > for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil > preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I > thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay -- > other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people. > > I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES > whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate > are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference > between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting > article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel > sulfate mught be bad stuff. > > Take care, > Katarina > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
uh? and i been using it, because i heard it was cholestrol free. Never Trust Advertising. find a onelist or eskimo list and get Expert Opinions. sorry to be off topic, but... built stuff? ewww Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Dear Katarina, I realize that you addressed this to Kris, but I just wanted to say that I have heard that all canola oil is genetically engineered. Lisa At 03:25 PM 11/18/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Kris, >you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad >for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil >preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I >thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay -- >other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people. > >I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES >whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate >are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference >between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting >article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel >sulfate mught be bad stuff. > >Take care, >Katarina > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > --- End Message ---
Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil
Dear Katarina, I realize that you addressed this to Kris, but I just wanted to say that I have heard that all canola oil is genetically engineered. Lisa At 03:25 PM 11/18/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Kris, >you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad >for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil >preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I >thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay -- >other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people. > >I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES >whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate >are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference >between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting >article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel >sulfate mught be bad stuff. > >Take care, >Katarina > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >