RE: CS>Re: Bumblebees

2002-05-01 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
So it is both; thanks for the correction and additional information.  The
math looks intimidating.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
From:   Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
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These probably contains more than you would ever want to know about it:

http://www.sciam.com/2001/0601issue/0601dickinson.html

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathland_3_31.html

http://www.iop.org/Physics/News/0012i.1

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_045.html

Marshall

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> I think it was the theory of lift from the orbiting motion of the wings
that
> was missed; not the flow over the body.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>  -Original Message-
> From:   Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com]
> Sent:   Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:24 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:CS>Re: Bumblebees
>
> Marshal, I have a question about   the flight of the bumblebee --
> you said;
>
> One has to look at the whole picture.  The bumblebee's wings provide too
> little lift for them to lift the bumblebee.  But the scientists forgot
about
> the flow of air over it's round body, which provides a significant amount
of
> lift, sufficient to allow it to fly.
>
> My question is, if the bumblebee is at rest, what causes the  *...flow of
> air over it's round body,...* to allow it to begin it's flight?
>
> JayDay
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Re: CS>Re: Bumblebees

2002-04-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
These probably contains more than you would ever want to know about it:

http://www.sciam.com/2001/0601issue/0601dickinson.html

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathland_3_31.html

http://www.iop.org/Physics/News/0012i.1

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_045.html

Marshall

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> I think it was the theory of lift from the orbiting motion of the wings that
> was missed; not the flow over the body.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>  -Original Message-
> From:   Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com]
> Sent:   Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:24 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:CS>Re: Bumblebees
>
> Marshal, I have a question about   the flight of the bumblebee --
> you said;
>
> One has to look at the whole picture.  The bumblebee's wings provide too
> little lift for them to lift the bumblebee.  But the scientists forgot about
> the flow of air over it's round body, which provides a significant amount of
> lift, sufficient to allow it to fly.
>
> My question is, if the bumblebee is at rest, what causes the  *...flow of
> air over it's round body,...* to allow it to begin it's flight?
>
> JayDay
>
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Re: CS>Re: Bumblebees

2002-04-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
The beating of the wings moves air down and across the bee's back and provides
lift to the wings, and the back simulatneously.

Marshall

Jack Dayton wrote:

> Marshal, I have a question about   the flight of the bumblebee --
> you said;
>
> One has to look at the whole picture.  The bumblebee's wings provide too
> little lift for them to lift the bumblebee.  But the scientists forgot about
> the flow of air over it's round body, which provides a significant amount of
> lift, sufficient to allow it to fly.
>
> My question is, if the bumblebee is at rest, what causes the  *...flow of
> air over it's round body,...* to allow it to begin it's flight?
>
> JayDay
>
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RE: CS>Re: Bumblebees

2002-04-30 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I think it was the theory of lift from the orbiting motion of the wings that
was missed; not the flow over the body.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
From:   Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:CS>Re: Bumblebees

Marshal, I have a question about   the flight of the bumblebee --
you said;

One has to look at the whole picture.  The bumblebee's wings provide too
little lift for them to lift the bumblebee.  But the scientists forgot about
the flow of air over it's round body, which provides a significant amount of
lift, sufficient to allow it to fly.

My question is, if the bumblebee is at rest, what causes the  *...flow of
air over it's round body,...* to allow it to begin it's flight?

JayDay


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