Re: CS>Vanadium for Diabetes?

[Ode Coyote]

  I had a cat that loved lettuce and another that craved raw potatoes and 
yet another that went wild over raw okra.

 Cats eat a lot of herbs and grasses if they can get to them.

But then, I had a black cat that liked used motor oil soaked  kitty litter 
and charcoal chunks too. [That one didn't live very long]

I guess he figured he wasn't black enough ?

ode


At 10:58 AM 1/31/2010 -0600, you wrote:
Since horses eat plant material I bet it would be safe for them to 
try--you'd have to ask someone more knowledgeable about horses.  But for 
cats--they are strict meat eaters and do not have the enzymes that can 
handle plant material.  Dogs can do good with herbs though--so I believe 
this would be species specific.


Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---

This is interesting.  I wonder if it's also true for animals -- 
specifically horses?  Anyone know?

MA





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Re: CS>Vanadium for Diabetes?

[Renee]

Since horses eat plant material I bet it would be safe for them to try--you
d have to ask someone more knowledgeable about horses.  But for cats--they
are strict meat eaters and do not have the enzymes that can handle plant
material.  Dogs can do good with herbs though--so I believe this would be
species specific.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
This is interesting.  I wonder if it's also true for animals -- specifically
horses?  Anyone know?
MA

Re: CS>Vanadium for Diabetes?

[Ode Coyote]

  Since soil samples are not the same even taken a few feet apart and 
minerals enter the soil not by organic loam but by "mineral" soil [stone] 
breakdown, the whole idea of soil depletion of minerals is suspect.
 Any given food item will have a variation even in the same field, 
especially if trace elements are somewhat rare...like Selenium and Vanadium.
Modern farming, as bad as it may be in some aspects, pays a great deal of 
attention to supplementing minerals in soils.
 Variety of source location and food types can only help and general 
nutrition is far better than it was 100 years ago.
But then, so are the food choices made more choosable, so more choices of 
less variety are made possible.


 "Back in the old days", you HAD to eat EVERYTHING, [like it or not] just 
to get enough to eat.
But everything was so local, that local limitations applied and there were 
a LOT of mineral and vitamin deficiencies.


Not that many people lived long enough for a slow disease like Diabetes to 
make big problems and sugar was a rarity that few could afford to choose.


Ode



tAt 11:25 PM 1/30/2010 -0700, you wrote:
I do! I use it every day, and at age 57, way too close to 300 lbs. 
(sigh...), and loving sugary goodies, my fasting blood glucose level is 
normal. I take 10 micrograms in my daily multivitamins that I get from Walmart.
I read somewhere that the body uses Vanadium to create insulin, and since 
it is no longer in the depleted farm soils, it is no longer in the foods. 
Ergo, diabetes!
FYI, my late mom was mildly diabetic, and my elderly elder sister (68) 
takes 4 shots of insulin a day for her diabetes!

Marshalee

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:25 PM, S&JY 
<you...@relia.net> wrote:


(This is off topic).  I got some "junk mail" from Dr. Julian Whitaker 
regarding Diabetes.  It is the usual glitzy pitch, full of "astonishing 
speed cures", "3-Week Miracle treatment claims,", etc., to lure people to 
subscribe to his newsletter.  But amidst all the hype and hoopla he states 
"I'll give you full details about the world's most lifesaving blood sugar 
supplement.  Vanadium!  My colleagues and I have used it with stunning 
success for thousands of patients.  And in animal studies, this supplement 
has eliminated type 2 diabetes, all by itself".  Etc.




Anyone know if Vanadium supplements can really help diabetics control 
their blood sugar levels, and/or provide other beneficial results?




Thanks,



Steve Y.




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Re: CS>Vanadium for Diabetes?

[John E. Stevens]

In my research I find Organic whole food sourced GTF Chromium to be best at
reversing diabetes.  It ain't no 10 day antibiotic program, though, it's
something you have to stay on for months and maybe forever.  Lack of real
chromium from natural breads, not the bleached white flour bread which has
NONE, is the cause of diabetes.  Chromium piclionate is a synthetic and
doesn't do the job of reversing diabetes.  In using GTF (Glucose Tolerance
Factor) Chromium, you should begin noticing results within a couple of
months.  And then continual positive changes from then on.  Vanadium is good
for loose teeth - it will tighten the gum and bone structure holding your
teeth.

John

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:57 AM,  wrote:

>  In a message dated 1/30/2010 10:25:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> you...@relia.net writes:
>
> Anyone know if Vanadium supplements can really help diabetics control their
> blood sugar levels, and/or provide other beneficial results?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Y.
>
>  *Here is a cross post from Oxyplus by Dr Pressman*
> **
> *>>>*Type 2 diabetes is due to insulin resistance by tissues. Type 2 may
> progress
> to destruction of the insulin-producing cells of the pancreas, but is still
> considered Type 2.
>
> The insulin producing beta cells of the pancreas can be regenerated by
> Shardunika (Gymnema sylvestre) or cedar berries (Juniperus monosperma),
> available in most health food stores.
>
> Insulin resistance is due to a lack of chromium and vanadium, which can be
> easily supplemented.
>

Re: CS>Vanadium for Diabetes?

[MaryAnn Helland]

This is interesting.  I wonder if it's also true for animals -- specifically 
horses?  Anyone know?
MA





Here is a cross post from Oxyplus by Dr Pressman 
 
>>>Type 2 diabetes is due to insulin resistance by tissues. Type 2 may progress
to destruction of the insulin-producing cells of the pancreas, but is still
considered Type 2.

The insulin producing beta cells of the pancreas can be regenerated by
Shardunika (Gymnema sylvestre) or cedar berries (Juniperus monosperma),
available in most health food stores.

Insulin resistance is due to a lack of chromium and vanadium, which can be
easily supplemented.

Re: CS>Vanadium for Diabetes?

[EJohns9525]

 
In a message dated 1/30/2010 10:25:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
you...@relia.net writes:

Anyone know if Vanadium  supplements can really help diabetics control 
their blood sugar levels, and/or  provide other beneficial results? 
Thanks, 
Steve  Y.


Here is a cross post from Oxyplus by Dr Pressman
 
>>>Type 2 diabetes is due to insulin resistance  by tissues. Type 2 may 
progress
to destruction of the insulin-producing cells  of the pancreas, but is still
considered Type 2.

The insulin producing  beta cells of the pancreas can be regenerated by
Shardunika (Gymnema  sylvestre) or cedar berries (Juniperus monosperma),
available in most health  food stores.

Insulin resistance is due to a lack of chromium and  vanadium, which can be
easily  supplemented.

Re: CS>Vanadium for Diabetes?

[Marshalee Hallett]

I do! I use it every day, and at age 57, way too close to 300 lbs.
(sigh...), and loving sugary goodies, my fasting blood glucose level is
normal. I take 10 micrograms in my daily multivitamins that I get from
Walmart.
I read somewhere that the body uses Vanadium to create insulin, and since it
is no longer in the depleted farm soils, it is no longer in the foods. Ergo,
diabetes!
FYI, my late mom was mildly diabetic, and my elderly elder sister (68) takes
4 shots of insulin a day for her diabetes!
Marshalee

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:25 PM, S&JY  wrote:

>  (This is off topic).  I got some “junk mail” from Dr. Julian Whitaker
> regarding Diabetes.  It is the usual glitzy pitch, full of “astonishing
> speed cures”, “3-Week Miracle treatment claims,”, etc., to lure people to
> subscribe to his newsletter.  But amidst all the hype and hoopla he states
> “I’ll give you full details about the world’s most lifesaving blood sugar
> supplement.  Vanadium!  My colleagues and I have used it with stunning
> success for thousands of patients.  And in animal studies, this supplement
> has eliminated type 2 diabetes, all by itself”.  Etc.
>
>
>
> Anyone know if Vanadium supplements can really help diabetics control their
> blood sugar levels, and/or provide other beneficial results?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Steve Y.
>