Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
Nope, still getting "size function failed". [ken@raptor Disks]$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5120 of=rt11dat.dsk 5120+0 records in 5120+0 records out 5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 0.0115284 s, 455 MB/s [ken@raptor Disks]$ pdp11 rt11.cmd PDP-11 simulator V3.6-1 Create bad block table on last track? [N] RT-11FB V05.03 . initialize/noquery dl2: ?DUP-F-Size function failed It does work for RK05 though. -Original Message- From: Jacob Goense [mailto:d...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 20:31 To: Jacob Goense Cc: Jacob Goense; Ken Hall; simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 >>> Anyone know how to initialize a disk under RT-11 with simh? >>> >>> I can format and initialize RK05 images, but INITIALIZE fails on >>> RL01 with "?DUP-F-Size function failed". >> >> Assuming > [snip previous reply after misreading] > > Here is for the RL01. [snip previous reply after still misreading] Ok, that was for the RL02, sorry for again not getting your question right. Anyway, the answer for the RL01/RL02 disks is, mind the badblocks track. root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5120 of=rl01.dsk 5120+0 records in 5120+0 records out 5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 0.0623074 s, 84.1 MB/s root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# cat 1.ini set ptr dis set ptp dis set lpt enabled set dz DISABLED set RK dis set HK dis set rx dis set rp dis set tm dis set tq dis set xq dis set tti 8b set tto 8b set cpu 11/73 512K attach LPT lpt.txt set rl1 writeenabled set rl1 rl01 attach rl1 rl01.dsk set rl0 writeenabled set rl0 rl02 attach rl0 rl0.dsk set rl0 badblock set rl1 badblock boot rl0 root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# pdp11 1.ini PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1 Disabling CR Overwrite last track? [N] Y Overwrite last track? [N] Y RT-11FB V05.03 .INITIALIZE/NOQUERY DL1: .DIR DL1: 0 Files, 0 Blocks 10172 Free blocks . ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
> Nope, still getting "size function failed". > > [ken@raptor Disks]$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5120 of=rt11dat.dsk > 5120+0 records in > 5120+0 records out > 5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 0.0115284 s, 455 MB/s > [ken@raptor Disks]$ pdp11 rt11.cmd > > PDP-11 simulator V3.6-1 > Create bad block table on last track? [N] What if you give a Y the first time Simh asks if it can write on the last track? ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
Same thing. I'm a bit puzzled why it keeps asking me that anyway. It should only ask me the first time. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jacob Goense wrote: > > Nope, still getting "size function failed". > > > > [ken@raptor Disks]$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5120 of=rt11dat.dsk > > 5120+0 records in > > 5120+0 records out > > 5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 0.0115284 s, 455 MB/s > > [ken@raptor Disks]$ pdp11 rt11.cmd > > > > PDP-11 simulator V3.6-1 > > Create bad block table on last track? [N] > > What if you give a Y the first time Simh asks if > it can write on the last track? > > > ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall)
I just tried this under both RT v4 and v5.3, and it works fine on a stock release. However, if you either (a) fail to write the bad block table or (b) attach an RL01-sized file to a drive that's declared to be an RL02, rather than AUTOSIZE, RT will get very confused, and the INIT will fail. /Bob On 12/21/2011 12:00 PM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote: Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall)
I'm just letting the emulator create the file. I have three defined in the cmd file, DL0-DL2. Disks that are already initialized (DL0 and DL1) are fine, but if I delete DL2 and let the emulator recreate it, I get these errors. So far the only way I've been able to create a working disk image is to copy an existing one, and remove all the files. Bob, is there anything special in your startup cmd file for the disks? This is what I have: [ken@raptor Disks]$ cat rt11.cmd ATTACH RL0 rt11run.dsk ATTACH RL1 rtv53_rl.dsk ATTACH RL2 rt11dat.dsk SET RL2 BADBLOCK BOOT RL0 RL2 is the one I'm trying to initialize. -Original Message- From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Bob Supnik Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:51 To: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) I just tried this under both RT v4 and v5.3, and it works fine on a stock release. However, if you either (a) fail to write the bad block table or (b) attach an RL01-sized file to a drive that's declared to be an RL02, rather than AUTOSIZE, RT will get very confused, and the INIT will fail. /Bob On 12/21/2011 12:00 PM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote: > Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
[Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
I've had SimH for several months, running VAX (including ethernet
support) with OpenVMS installed. (WinPcap is installed.) I decided I
wanted to add a second network card so that I could telnet in from the
same computer to the OpenVMS system. I had a Dynex DX-E102 available,
so I stuck it in the computer, but I don't see it as an available
network interface under SimH. The primary network interface is an
integrated NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000. To complicate matters, I have old
VMware Player software installed (version 1.0.2.) that allows me to
run some necessary software for a client. The host computer is running
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. Under SimH:
sim> show xq eth
ETH devices:
0 \Device\NPF_{4EBEA91C-BB4D-4EB4-A3D0-D44914480A2F} (Local Area
Connection)
1 \Device\NPF_{237514F4-8533-43C8-A69E-E94618353E5F} (VMware Network
Adapter VMnet8)
sim>
The Local Area Connection is the NVIDIA NIC. Am I not able to
additional network interfaces because of VMware, or is the Dynex NIC not
usable for this, or is it something else altogether?
I realize this is a bit on the fringe for SimH discussion, but I haven't
been able to find anything that seems promising in my internet
searches. Thanks for any pointers you can provide.
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Re: [Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
Your second interface probably doesn't have an IP address assigned (under
windoze); annoyingly, libpcap doesn't return interfaces without addresses.
Be careful picking a subnet.
Alternatively, you don't actually need a dedicated interface. I use OpenVPN
(just install the TAP adapter & bridge it to your primary ethernet card).
You don't need the whole OpenVPN package. Don't forget to set the Media
Status of the TAP to Always Connected, and things just work.
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-Original Message-
From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com]
On Behalf Of Stafford Winters
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 13:48
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: [Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
I've had SimH for several months, running VAX (including ethernet
support) with OpenVMS installed. (WinPcap is installed.) I decided I
wanted to add a second network card so that I could telnet in from the same
computer to the OpenVMS system. I had a Dynex DX-E102 available, so I stuck
it in the computer, but I don't see it as an available network interface
under SimH. The primary network interface is an integrated NVIDIA nForce
10/100/1000. To complicate matters, I have old VMware Player software
installed (version 1.0.2.) that allows me to run some necessary software
for a client. The host computer is running Windows XP Professional x64
Edition. Under SimH:
sim> show xq eth
ETH devices:
0 \Device\NPF_{4EBEA91C-BB4D-4EB4-A3D0-D44914480A2F} (Local Area
Connection)
1 \Device\NPF_{237514F4-8533-43C8-A69E-E94618353E5F} (VMware Network
Adapter VMnet8)
sim>
The Local Area Connection is the NVIDIA NIC. Am I not able to additional
network interfaces because of VMware, or is the Dynex NIC not usable for
this, or is it something else altogether?
I realize this is a bit on the fringe for SimH discussion, but I haven't
been able to find anything that seems promising in my internet searches.
Thanks for any pointers you can provide.
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Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall)
Ok... I have it. The stock systems have only two RL units (see the RT5.0 Installation Guide). So when you try to init units 2 or 3, the requests go to unit 0 and fail. (RT11 could give better error messages, but it doesn't.) This code snippet from the distributed sources confirms it: .IIF NDF DL$UN, DL$UN == 2 .IIF GT DL$UN-4, DL$UN == 4 .IIF LE DL$UN, DL$UN == 1 .IRPX,<\DL$UN> .SBTTL *** THIS HANDLER SUPPORTS X UNITS *** .ENDR You need to generate a custom system to get 4 units. /Bob On 12/21/2011 1:10 PM, Ken Hall wrote: I'm just letting the emulator create the file. I have three defined in the cmd file, DL0-DL2. Disks that are already initialized (DL0 and DL1) are fine, but if I delete DL2 and let the emulator recreate it, I get these errors. So far the only way I've been able to create a working disk image is to copy an existing one, and remove all the files. Bob, is there anything special in your startup cmd file for the disks? This is what I have: [ken@raptor Disks]$ cat rt11.cmd ATTACH RL0 rt11run.dsk ATTACH RL1 rtv53_rl.dsk ATTACH RL2 rt11dat.dsk SET RL2 BADBLOCK BOOT RL0 RL2 is the one I'm trying to initialize. -Original Message- From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Bob Supnik Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:51 To: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) I just tried this under both RT v4 and v5.3, and it works fine on a stock release. However, if you either (a) fail to write the bad block table or (b) attach an RL01-sized file to a drive that's declared to be an RL02, rather than AUTOSIZE, RT will get very confused, and the INIT will fail. /Bob On 12/21/2011 12:00 PM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote: Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall)
Thanks, I might have known that once upon a time, but it's been ages, and I don't fool with RT11 much anymore. -Original Message- From: Bob Supnik [mailto:b...@supnik.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 14:28 To: Ken Hall Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) Ok... I have it. The stock systems have only two RL units (see the RT5.0 Installation Guide). So when you try to init units 2 or 3, the requests go to unit 0 and fail. (RT11 could give better error messages, but it doesn't.) This code snippet from the distributed sources confirms it: .IIF NDF DL$UN, DL$UN == 2 .IIF GT DL$UN-4, DL$UN == 4 .IIF LE DL$UN, DL$UN == 1 .IRPX,<\DL$UN> .SBTTL *** THIS HANDLER SUPPORTS X UNITS *** .ENDR You need to generate a custom system to get 4 units. /Bob On 12/21/2011 1:10 PM, Ken Hall wrote: > I'm just letting the emulator create the file. I have three defined > in the cmd file, DL0-DL2. Disks that are already initialized (DL0 and > DL1) are fine, but if I delete DL2 and let the emulator recreate it, I > get these errors. So far the only way I've been able to create a > working disk image is to copy an existing one, and remove all the files. > > Bob, is there anything special in your startup cmd file for the disks? > This is what I have: > > [ken@raptor Disks]$ cat rt11.cmd > ATTACH RL0 rt11run.dsk > ATTACH RL1 rtv53_rl.dsk > ATTACH RL2 rt11dat.dsk > SET RL2 BADBLOCK > BOOT RL0 > > RL2 is the one I'm trying to initialize. > > > -Original Message- > From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com > [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] > On Behalf Of Bob Supnik > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:51 > To: simh@trailing-edge.com > Subject: Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) > > I just tried this under both RT v4 and v5.3, and it works fine on a > stock release. > > However, if you either (a) fail to write the bad block table or (b) > attach an RL01-sized file to a drive that's declared to be an RL02, > rather than AUTOSIZE, RT will get very confused, and the INIT will fail. > > /Bob > > On 12/21/2011 12:00 PM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote: >> Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) > ___ > Simh mailing list > Simh@trailing-edge.com > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh > > ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
I believe you need to re-install WinPcap to get it to see the new interface.
At 11:48 AM 12/21/2011, Stafford Winters wrote:
>I've had SimH for several months, running VAX (including ethernet support)
>with OpenVMS installed. (WinPcap is installed.) I decided I wanted to add a
>second network card so that I could telnet in from the same computer to the
>OpenVMS system. I had a Dynex DX-E102 available, so I stuck it in the
>computer, but I don't see it as an available network interface under SimH.
>The primary network interface is an integrated NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000. To
>complicate matters, I have old VMware Player software installed (version
>1.0.2.) that allows me to run some necessary software for a client. The
>host computer is running Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. Under SimH:
>sim> show xq eth
>ETH devices:
> 0 \Device\NPF_{4EBEA91C-BB4D-4EB4-A3D0-D44914480A2F} (Local Area Connection)
> 1 \Device\NPF_{237514F4-8533-43C8-A69E-E94618353E5F} (VMware Network
> Adapter VMnet8)
>sim>
>The Local Area Connection is the NVIDIA NIC. Am I not able to additional
>network interfaces because of VMware, or is the Dynex NIC not usable for this,
>or is it something else altogether?
>
>I realize this is a bit on the fringe for SimH discussion, but I haven't been
>able to find anything that seems promising in my internet searches. Thanks
>for any pointers you can provide.
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Re: [Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
If you want to communicate between Windows host machine and SIMH, the easiest
setup is Windows Loopback Adaptor (yes, with "o"). To avoid confusion by name,
it is not an adapter that is associated with address 127.0.0.1, but a virtual
Ethernet card driver that creates a subnet connected on one side to the Windows
host machine, and on other side to applications, pretty much like TAP/TUN, but
without the hassle.
Loopback Adaptor can be installed from Device Manager (on Windows 7, Action ->
Add Legacy Hardware -> manually -> Network -> Microsoft -> Microsoft Loopback
Adaptor, and there is similar sequence in XP).
Once the adapter is installed, assign its host-side address in Control Panel
(something like 192.168.3.1/255.255.255.0), restart the machine to get PCAP to
recognize it, then bind it on SIMH side the usual way, just as you would bind a
physical adapter, and configure it inside VMS.
Note that there is a bug in SIMH 3.8.1 autoconfigure that causes mis-assignment
of QBus device vectors when there are two XQ devices present and that may cause
some other devices such as DHV stop working. I forwarded the fix some time ago
to Robert Supnik, so if you run into the problem perhaps he could advise how to
obtain the codebase that incorporates the fix.
From: Timothe Litt
To: Stafford Winters
Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Wed, December 21, 2011 11:03:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
Your second interface probably doesn't have an IP address assigned (under
windoze); annoyingly, libpcap doesn't return interfaces without addresses.
Be careful picking a subnet.
Alternatively, you don't actually need a dedicated interface. I use OpenVPN
(just install the TAP adapter & bridge it to your primary ethernet card).
You don't need the whole OpenVPN package. Don't forget to set the Media
Status of the TAP to Always Connected, and things just work.
-
This communication may not represent my employer's views,
if any, on the matters discussed.
-Original Message-
From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com]
On Behalf Of Stafford Winters
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 13:48
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: [Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
I've had SimH for several months, running VAX (including ethernet
support) with OpenVMS installed. (WinPcap is installed.) I decided I
wanted to add a second network card so that I could telnet in from the same
computer to the OpenVMS system. I had a Dynex DX-E102 available, so I stuck
it in the computer, but I don't see it as an available network interface
under SimH. The primary network interface is an integrated NVIDIA nForce
10/100/1000. To complicate matters, I have old VMware Player software
installed (version 1.0.2.) that allows me to run some necessary software
for a client. The host computer is running Windows XP Professional x64
Edition. Under SimH:
sim> show xq eth
ETH devices:
0 \Device\NPF_{4EBEA91C-BB4D-4EB4-A3D0-D44914480A2F} (Local Area
Connection)
1 \Device\NPF_{237514F4-8533-43C8-A69E-E94618353E5F} (VMware Network
Adapter VMnet8)
sim>
The Local Area Connection is the NVIDIA NIC. Am I not able to additional
network interfaces because of VMware, or is the Dynex NIC not usable for
this, or is it something else altogether?
I realize this is a bit on the fringe for SimH discussion, but I haven't
been able to find anything that seems promising in my internet searches.
Thanks for any pointers you can provide.
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Re: [Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
On 12/21/2011 11:03 AM, Timothe Litt wrote:
Your second interface probably doesn't have an IP address assigned (under
windoze); annoyingly, libpcap doesn't return interfaces without addresses.
Be careful picking a subnet.
Alternatively, you don't actually need a dedicated interface. I use OpenVPN
(just install the TAP adapter& bridge it to your primary ethernet card).
You don't need the whole OpenVPN package. Don't forget to set the Media
Status of the TAP to Always Connected, and things just work.
-
This communication may not represent my employer's views,
if any, on the matters discussed.
-Original Message-
From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com]
On Behalf Of Stafford Winters
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 13:48
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: [Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
I've had SimH for several months, running VAX (including ethernet
support) with OpenVMS installed. (WinPcap is installed.) I decided I
wanted to add a second network card so that I could telnet in from the same
computer to the OpenVMS system. I had a Dynex DX-E102 available, so I stuck
it in the computer, but I don't see it as an available network interface
under SimH. The primary network interface is an integrated NVIDIA nForce
10/100/1000. To complicate matters, I have old VMware Player software
installed (version 1.0.2.) that allows me to run some necessary software
for a client. The host computer is running Windows XP Professional x64
Edition. Under SimH:
sim> show xq eth
ETH devices:
0 \Device\NPF_{4EBEA91C-BB4D-4EB4-A3D0-D44914480A2F} (Local Area
Connection)
1 \Device\NPF_{237514F4-8533-43C8-A69E-E94618353E5F} (VMware Network
Adapter VMnet8)
sim>
The Local Area Connection is the NVIDIA NIC. Am I not able to additional
network interfaces because of VMware, or is the Dynex NIC not usable for
this, or is it something else altogether?
I realize this is a bit on the fringe for SimH discussion, but I haven't
been able to find anything that seems promising in my internet searches.
Thanks for any pointers you can provide.
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The OpenVPN TAP adapter worked great.
Thank you!
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Re: [Simh] Network interfaces under Windows
On 12/21/2011 11:39 AM, Bruce Claremont wrote:
I believe you need to re-install WinPcap to get it to see the new
interface.
At 11:48 AM 12/21/2011, Stafford Winters wrote:
I've had SimH for several months, running VAX (including ethernet
support) with OpenVMS installed. (WinPcap is installed.) I decided
I wanted to add a second network card so that I could telnet in from
the same computer to the OpenVMS system. I had a Dynex DX-E102
available, so I stuck it in the computer, but I don't see it as an
available network interface under SimH. The primary network
interface is an integrated NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000. To complicate
matters, I have old VMware Player software installed (version
1.0.2.) that allows me to run some necessary software for a
client. The host computer is running Windows XP Professional x64
Edition. Under SimH:
sim> show xq eth
ETH devices:
0 \Device\NPF_{4EBEA91C-BB4D-4EB4-A3D0-D44914480A2F} (Local Area
Connection)
1 \Device\NPF_{237514F4-8533-43C8-A69E-E94618353E5F} (VMware
Network Adapter VMnet8)
sim>
The Local Area Connection is the NVIDIA NIC. Am I not able to
additional network interfaces because of VMware, or is the Dynex NIC
not usable for this, or is it something else altogether?
I realize this is a bit on the fringe for SimH discussion, but I
haven't been able to find anything that seems promising in my
internet searches. Thanks for any pointers you can provide.
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