Re: [Simh] how to get eth connexion

2013-11-06 Thread Gérard Calliet

Le 05/11/2013 13:55, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm a écrit :

2) I saw we need at least one ip host connexion alive to have a connexion for
simh - I am on Windows with wincap -. Again, why ?

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'need at least one ip host connexion 
alive'.  Are you saying that you need to be connected to a network?
Thanks to your help, I was able to communicate using a classic wire 
connexion. It works also with the only wire interface, used by Windows 
for ip traffic, and by simh for its (ip also) traffic.

If I disable the ip protocol for the interface, simh also cannot work.
My question is theoretical : why do we need an ip host protocol on the 
host interface for simh being able of work with this interface ? It's 
perhaps a window / wincap issue.
Don't worry about it : it is only to increese my knowledge. I do go on 
with wired and ip-ed solutions.


Gérard Calliet
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Re: [Simh] RT-11 bootable tape

2013-11-06 Thread Sander Reiche
Indeed the tape booting works flawlessly with RT-11 V5.7 under SimH.
Interesting!
Thanks Tim!

regards,

Sander


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Sander Reiche sander.rei...@gmail.comwrote:

 But it does seems to work in e11. Could be a hack, but I'll try V05.07
 tomorrow.

 re,

 Sander
 On Nov 5, 2013 10:56 PM, Shoppa, Tim tsho...@wmata.com wrote:

  It has been many years but I think there was a problem with the tape
 boot blocks in 5.6 that was fixed in 5.7.



 Tim.



 *From:* simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:
 simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] *On Behalf Of *Sander Reiche
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 05, 2013 10:14 AM
 *To:* simh@trailing-edge.com
 *Subject:* [Simh] RT-11 bootable tape



 Hi all,



 Trying to get an actual scsi tape running on a CQD220A on real iron(tm),
 but I'm still trying to figure things out. I was originally using
 Ersatz-11, but I though I'd give it a go on SimH.



 When booted from a bootable simulated TK50(tk50.tap), it consistently
 halts on trying to run MDUP.Mx to further the installation of RT-11 from
 said tape.



 Following a transcript:



 PDP-11 simulator V3.9-0

 sim att rl0 rtv5rl.06

 sim att tq0 tk50.tap

 TQ: creating new file

 sim b rl



 RT-11FB  V05.06



 .TYPE V5USER.TXT



RT-11 V5.6



 Installation  of  RT-11  Version  5.6 is complete and you are now
 running

 RT-11 from your system volume.



 .R MSCPCK

 ?MSCPCK-I-MU0-TK50  FW Rev Level is 005/HW Rev Level is 001

 ?MSCPCK-W-TQK50 controller below FW Rev 4/HW Rev 6



 .ass mu0 kit



 .ass dl0 bin



 .$@mub



 .$Load Bin,Kit



 .$Ini/Que/Vol/File:Bin:MBOOT.BOT Kit:

 MU0:/Initialize; Are you sure? Y

 Volume ID? HU21J

 Owner? MU 1/1



 .$Cop Bin:MSBOOT.BOT Kit:/Pos:-1

  Files copied:

 BIN:MSBOOT.BOT to KIT:MSBOOT.BOT



 .$Cop Bin:MDUP.AI Kit:/Pos:-1

  Files copied:

 BIN:MDUP.AIto KIT:MDUP.AI



 .$Cop Bin:MDUP.MM Kit:/Pos:-1

  Files copied:

 BIN:MDUP.MMto KIT:MDUP.MM



 .$Cop Bin:MDUP.MS Kit:/Pos:-1

  Files copied:

 BIN:MDUP.MSto KIT:MDUP.MS



 .$Cop Bin:MDUP.MT Kit:/Pos:-1

  Files copied:

 BIN:MDUP.MTto KIT:MDUP.MT



 .$Cop Bin:MDUP.MU Kit:/Pos:-1

  Files copied:

 BIN:MDUP.MUto KIT:MDUP.MU



 snip..



 .$Cop Bin:INDEX.IDX Kit:/Pos:-1

  Files copied:

 BIN:INDEX.IDX  to KIT:INDEX.IDX



 .$Unload Bin,Kit



 sim sh tq

 TQ, TK50 (94MB), address=17774500-17774503, no vector, 4 units

   TQ0, attached to tk50.tap, write enabled, SIMH format, capacity=98MB

   TQ1, not attached, write enabled, SIMH format, capacity=98MB

   TQ2, not attached, write enabled, SIMH format, capacity=98MB

   TQ3, not attached, write enabled, SIMH format, capacity=98MB

 sim b tq



 .MSBOOT V05.07

 *MDUP.MU



 Trap stack push abort, PC: 062462 (ADD (R1)+,52040(R2))

 sim



 Am I doing something wrong?



 regards,



 Sander Reiche


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Re: [Simh] how to get eth connexion

2013-11-06 Thread Armistead, Jason
Gérard

SIMH has a console terminal connection.  This is activated after SIMH starts up 
by creating a Telnet connection to port 1 on your host (or else it times 
out).  That implies that the IP protocol be activated on at least one network 
interface on your host.

Jason

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Behalf Of Gérard Calliet
Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 3:49 AM
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: [External] Re: [Simh] how to get eth connexion

Le 05/11/2013 13:55, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm a écrit :
 2) I saw we need at least one ip host connexion alive to have a 
 connexion for
 simh - I am on Windows with wincap -. Again, why ?
 I'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'need at least one ip host connexion 
 alive'.  Are you saying that you need to be connected to a network?
Thanks to your help, I was able to communicate using a classic wire connexion. 
It works also with the only wire interface, used by Windows for ip traffic, and 
by simh for its (ip also) traffic.
If I disable the ip protocol for the interface, simh also cannot work.
My question is theoretical : why do we need an ip host protocol on the host 
interface for simh being able of work with this interface ? It's perhaps a 
window / wincap issue.
Don't worry about it : it is only to increese my knowledge. I do go on with 
wired and ip-ed solutions.

Gérard Calliet
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Re: [Simh] how to get eth connexion

2013-11-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm
On Wednesday, November 06, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Gérard Calliet wrote:
 Le 05/11/2013 13:55, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm a écrit :
  2) I saw we need at least one ip host connexion alive to have a
  connexion for
  simh - I am on Windows with wincap -. Again, why ?
  I'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'need at least one ip host connexion
 alive'.  Are you saying that you need to be connected to a network?
 Thanks to your help, I was able to communicate using a classic wire
 connexion. It works also with the only wire interface, used by Windows for ip
 traffic, and by simh for its (ip also) traffic.
 If I disable the ip protocol for the interface, simh also cannot work.
 My question is theoretical : why do we need an ip host protocol on the host
 interface for simh being able of work with this interface ? It's perhaps a
 window / wincap issue.

That is a good question.  

You certainly should be able to run a simh simulator using a network interface 
which the host system isn't using for IP traffic.  I have done this in the 
past.  In fact, prior to simh v3.9, using an extra network interface (one 
dedicated to simh) was the only way the simulated system could talk to its host 
system via IP.  

The key requirement is that the dedicated interface MUST be enabled and 
active/on.  WinPcap does not have any way to turn an interface on, so you may 
need some low level protocol enabled on the interface to act as a place holder 
to turn on the interface.  IP certainly is sufficient to perform this task, but 
several other Protocols which windows 

At this time, I no longer run simh simulators on Windows using the additional 
interface since, while implementing the DELQA-T I found the issue (for Windows) 
which didn't allow a simh simulator to share the network interface AND to talk 
to the host as well.  That works now.  On non-windows platforms, the problem 
still is an issue, but there now built in support for other ways to work around 
this issue (with internal bridging and/or VDE).

- Mark

 Don't worry about it : it is only to increese my knowledge. I do go on with
 wired and ip-ed solutions.
 
 Gérard Calliet
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Re: [Simh] how to get eth connexion

2013-11-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm
On Wednesday, November 06, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Jason Armistead wrote:
 Gérard
 
 SIMH has a console terminal connection.  This is activated after SIMH starts
 up by creating a Telnet connection to port 1 on your host (or else it 
 times
 out).  That implies that the IP protocol be activated on at least one network
 interface on your host.
 
 Jason

The use of the console telnet connection is not required.  However, one could 
use it without an external network interface by connecting via the localhost 
network address (127.0.0.1).

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