[Simh] KS10 and the DMR

2014-03-10 Thread simh
More time is getting consumed by the things around it like to enable
debugging then the debugging proper.

A Tops10-703 base system with Decnet networking has been generated. 
The standard basic network partner for my network tests is a Vax8600 with
various DMC lines; I only use the more broader equipped Pdp11 with Dmc/Dup
lines if I use Dup testing to contrast inline Ddcmp (DCM/DMR) with host
based Ddcmp (Dup) behaviour as the latter can be seen as the "proper"
standard.
The base image was verified configured with the Kdp/Dup communicating with
the Vax Dmc; Decnet functioned on the Ddcmp/Routing level and NFT worked.
Therefor the base image can be assumed to be sound (enough).

Configured with the Dmr and the D8RINT V016 driver set it still establishes
the same crash in DEFCIR.
This driver - already in its unpatched form - excels in an extraordinary
amount of resetting the Dmr device completely, even the unconfigured non
existing lines. Debugging D8RINT in 703 is somewhat different from 704 as
the code seems to run in a different section from startup; initially the
symbols are invisible, but that can be easily managed. 
Repairing the cause of the DEFCIR crash this still leads to another crash
further down the line, but now at least we reach a stage where some Ddcmp
activity can be seen. It looks like the Dmr at that point is properly setup
to start communicating with the Vax Dmc (set in Dmr mode). However while the
Vax is transmitting and receiving start dialog packets, the Tops10 side
remains stuck in only transmitting start packets and retrying that after
time out of receiving an acknowledge. Before continuing with the
investigation of the further behavior of the D8RINT, it is now necessary to
first investigate the Dmr emulation path why the Vax transmitted packets are
not received.
As the Ddcmp process is entirely within the Dmr, the Tops10 side has
actually very little to do with it. 
Either the Dmr hasn't been properly setup or there is something within the
emulation. What exactly is wrong cannot easily be explained as the Dmc/Dmr
code base in the Pddp10 and Vax emulators is in fact (almost) the same.
There is no difference in effective behaviour between the Tcp/IP connections
of the Dmc/Dmr pair with and without udp; only when using the normal
connections sometimes the lines are seen to be unavailable or busy.
While on the Vax normal transmit/receive is shown, on the Pdp10 side this
shows:

DDCMP Link State: IStart

   R: 0

   N: 0

   A: 0

   T: 1

   X: 0

SACK: false

SNAK: false

SREP: false

 rcv_pkt: 

rcv_pkt_size: 0

  xmt_buffer: 

  nak_reason: 0

TimerRunning: true

   TimeRemaining: 4

Swbw07> show dmr0 stat

DMR0

  input (on) queued/total = 8/8

  output (on) queued/total = 0/2104 packet data queued/packets sent = 0/263

  output buffer size = 16384

  bytes in buffer = 0

Buffers received from the network=0

Buffers sent to the network=1012

Output transfers completed for receive buffers=0

Output transfers completed for transmit buffers=0

Input transfers completed for receive buffers=15

Input transfers completed for transmit buffers=0

Control Out operations processed=0

DDCMP control packets received=0

DDCMP control packets sent=1012

To be continued ...

 

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Re: [Simh] SEL computer information

2014-03-10 Thread Michael Mondy
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 06:57:03PM -0700, AZ Bevier wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have lots of Gould/Encore/SEL software/manuals that I have developed/used 
> over the last 35 years.  I am getting old(er) and wish to see this 
> information used for something.  I have original manuals (lots) and many 
> cross-development  tools.  Such as a C compiler, runtime library, assembler, 
> library editor, make facility, disassembler, debugger, lots of tools, etc.  I 
> have the original source.  These tools run on Linux and target SEL Concept/32 
> machines.  Where can I send this stuff to.  Is anybody interested?  Let me 
> know what I can do with all this stuff.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim

Perhaps the Computer History Museum http://www.computerhistory.org/ or a 
similar organization?

--
Michael
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Re: [Simh] SEL computer information

2014-03-10 Thread Al Kossow

On 3/10/14 12:43 PM, Michael Mondy wrote:

On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 06:57:03PM -0700, AZ Bevier wrote:

Hello all,

I have lots of Gould/Encore/SEL software/manuals that I have developed/used 
over the last 35 years.  I am getting old(er) and wish to see this information 
used for something.  I have original manuals (lots) and many cross-development  
tools.  Such as a C compiler, runtime library, assembler, library editor, make 
facility, disassembler, debugger, lots of tools, etc.  I have the original 
source.  These tools run on Linux and target SEL Concept/32 machines.  Where 
can I send this stuff to.  Is anybody interested?  Let me know what I can do 
with all this stuff.

Thanks,

Jim


Perhaps the Computer History Museum http://www.computerhistory.org/ or a 
similar organization?



I did send a message saying I (bitsavers / CHM) was interested


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Re: [Simh] Nova emulator

2014-03-10 Thread Bruce Ray


G'day Ragge -

To my knowledge, neither the Nova 840 map nor the FPU are implemented in 
the official SimH release.


I will contact you off-list regarding assistance with the other items...


Bruce

Bruce Ray
Wild Hare Computer Systems, Inc.



On 3/9/2014 2:41 PM, Anders Magnusson wrote:

Hi all,

I took a look at the simh Nova emulator, and when reading the
documentation it seems that neither the MMU nor the FPU is supported.
Is this correct or just the docs lagging behind?

I would like to fix Nova 840 support, that's why I am asking, and since
the docs say nothing about Nova800 either I assume it is missing :-)

So, any special recommendations if I would like to write that?

Two other questions related to this:
- Are the test programs for these extensions available in some form?
- Is MRDOS (Mapped RDOS) for Nova available somewhere?

I have the software myself, but unfortunately only on either paper tape,
which I have difficulties reading, on 8" floppy (and no floppy drive),
or 6045 pack (but no 6045...)

I do have the corresponding listings also for some of the SW (like NMORT).

-- Ragge
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