Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX
Al Kossow wrote: > There's going to be a bunch more old stuff in the SRI-NIC tape backlog > at CHM but I can't spend any time working on that right now. It's great knowing there's more to come! By the way, I occasionally dole out stuff I find here: https://github.com/PDP-10/ All ITS applications are bundled into the "its" repository, but occasional finds get their own. There's MINITS, an MIT operating system for PDP-11. Also TRANTOR, which I transferred to one of its creators: https://github.com/eak/trantor ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX
vague memory says 'Symbolics' from Johnny's msg on cctlk -- resulted in: 0:737 000700,,670 34 0 0 33 " " 1: 21f30 00,,4174600 0 4 37 30 " " 2: 894e5ba78 422471,,335170 104 123 113 72 74 "DSK:<" 3: 8d3e7ce8a 432371,,747212 106 117 117 116 105 "FOONE" 4: b0fa1c882 541750,,344202 130 76 103 110 101 "X>CHA" 5: 9f4d74d82 476465,,646602 117 123 56 115 101 "OS.MA" 6: 86ed9b972 415666,,334562 103 73 63 71 71 "C;399" 7: 0 00,,000 0 0 0 0 " " [snip] 777: 0 00,,000 0 0 0 0 " " 1000: 774e94374 356472,,241564 73 123 122 103 72 ";SRC:" 1001: 794ecd35c 362473,,151534 74 123 131 123 56 "CH" 1004: 833e9ae9a 406372,,327232 101 117 123 56 115 "AOS.M" 1005: 830d73372 406065,,631562 101 103 56 63 71 "AC.39" 1006: 6e810375a 335004,,033532 67 40 40 67 55 "7 7-" 1007: 9b87cad70 467037,,126560 115 141 171 55 70 "May-8" 1010: 62818b974 305006,,134564 61 40 61 71 72 "1 19:" 1011: 66d5d346c 315527,,232154 63 65 72 64 66 "35:46" 1012: 58822e4d2 261010,,562322 54 40 105 144 151 ", Edi" 1013: e88317940 721014,,274500 164 40 142 171 40 "t by " 1014: 9b361cd1a 466330,,346432 115 115 103 115 15 "MMCM " [and so on] Looks like a tape in core-dump format with a header page. which looks MIT/Symbolics-ish On 1/3/17 5:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, at 11:35, Al Kossow wrote: >> >> >> On 1/3/17 11:05 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: >> Do KI TENEX sources exist?? >>> >>> Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34. >>> >> >> I see that there are two tape images I've read from SCRC, one I read in >> 2000 >> and one in 2008. They may be the same, just re-read, the second read is >> four >> megs longer than the first. >> >> I'll put them up for a couple of days under bits/Foonly on bitsavers. >> >> >> There's going to be a bunch more old stuff in the SRI-NIC tape backlog at >> CHM >> but I can't spend any time working on that right now. >> >> >> ___ >> Simh mailing list >> Simh@trailing-edge.com >> http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh > > Any ideas what the tape format is? > > As-is neither DUMPER nor BACKUP will touch it. > ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, at 11:35, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 1/3/17 11:05 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > > >> Do KI TENEX sources exist?? > > > > Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34. > > > > I see that there are two tape images I've read from SCRC, one I read in > 2000 > and one in 2008. They may be the same, just re-read, the second read is > four > megs longer than the first. > > I'll put them up for a couple of days under bits/Foonly on bitsavers. > > > There's going to be a bunch more old stuff in the SRI-NIC tape backlog at > CHM > but I can't spend any time working on that right now. > > > ___ > Simh mailing list > Simh@trailing-edge.com > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh Any ideas what the tape format is? As-is neither DUMPER nor BACKUP will touch it. -- Cory Smelosky b...@gewt.net ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX
Hi Cory, > I've built TENDMP as well - just need it written to disk ;) The TENDMP I have runs stand alone. It copies Core to dectape or dectape to core. It can be placed in the first block of a dectape to boot it. Rich > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:29, Richard Cornwell > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I have a copy of tendmp.mac that I acquired off Saildart.org. It > > is in my v1.19 git repo at http://git.sky-visions.com > > > > I am currently trying to figure out why my KI10 sim will not boot > > TOPS10. It appears that is placing the high segment at the wrong > > address in SYSINI. It is off by 1 page. > > > > v1.19 pretty much assembles and loads correctly. V4.5 will still > > not assemble without errors. v1.19 still has some paging issues to > > match the scanned sources exactly. Both are in my git repo. I will > > add in 3.x when I get some more time. > > > > Rich > > > >> Phil Budne wrote: > >>> Rich Alderson wrote > I don't think anyone has bootable TENEX media. It would be a > labor of love to try to cross-compile TENEX under TOPS-20 on a > Toad-2, then build a boot program for the KI that could read it > in from disk. > >> > >> It seems Cory Smelosky has recently built a TENEX.SAV. But now he > >> needs TENDMP to boot it. > >> > >>> Do KI TENEX sources exist?? > >> > >> Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34. > >> > >> ___ > >> Simh mailing list > >> Simh@trailing-edge.com > >> http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh > > > > > > -- > > == > > Richard Cornwell > > sky...@sky-visions.com > > http://sky-visions.com > > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-cornwell-991076107 > > == > > ___ > > Simh mailing list > > Simh@trailing-edge.com > > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh > ___ > Simh mailing list > Simh@trailing-edge.com > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh -- == Richard Cornwell sky...@sky-visions.com http://sky-visions.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-cornwell-991076107 == ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX
I've built TENDMP as well - just need it written to disk ;) Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:29, Richard Cornwell wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a copy of tendmp.mac that I acquired off Saildart.org. It is > in my v1.19 git repo at http://git.sky-visions.com > > I am currently trying to figure out why my KI10 sim will not boot > TOPS10. It appears that is placing the high segment at the wrong > address in SYSINI. It is off by 1 page. > > v1.19 pretty much assembles and loads correctly. V4.5 will still not > assemble without errors. v1.19 still has some paging issues to match > the scanned sources exactly. Both are in my git repo. I will add in > 3.x when I get some more time. > > Rich > >> Phil Budne wrote: >>> Rich Alderson wrote I don't think anyone has bootable TENEX media. It would be a labor of love to try to cross-compile TENEX under TOPS-20 on a Toad-2, then build a boot program for the KI that could read it in from disk. >> >> It seems Cory Smelosky has recently built a TENEX.SAV. But now he >> needs TENDMP to boot it. >> >>> Do KI TENEX sources exist?? >> >> Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34. >> >> ___ >> Simh mailing list >> Simh@trailing-edge.com >> http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh > > > -- > == > Richard Cornwell > sky...@sky-visions.com > http://sky-visions.com > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-cornwell-991076107 > == > ___ > Simh mailing list > Simh@trailing-edge.com > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX
On 1/3/17 11:05 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: >> Do KI TENEX sources exist?? > > Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34. > I see that there are two tape images I've read from SCRC, one I read in 2000 and one in 2008. They may be the same, just re-read, the second read is four megs longer than the first. I'll put them up for a couple of days under bits/Foonly on bitsavers. There's going to be a bunch more old stuff in the SRI-NIC tape backlog at CHM but I can't spend any time working on that right now. ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX
Hello, I have a copy of tendmp.mac that I acquired off Saildart.org. It is in my v1.19 git repo at http://git.sky-visions.com I am currently trying to figure out why my KI10 sim will not boot TOPS10. It appears that is placing the high segment at the wrong address in SYSINI. It is off by 1 page. v1.19 pretty much assembles and loads correctly. V4.5 will still not assemble without errors. v1.19 still has some paging issues to match the scanned sources exactly. Both are in my git repo. I will add in 3.x when I get some more time. Rich > Phil Budne wrote: > > Rich Alderson wrote > >> I don't think anyone has bootable TENEX media. It would be a labor > >> of love to try to cross-compile TENEX under TOPS-20 on a Toad-2, > >> then build a boot program for the KI that could read it in from > >> disk. > > It seems Cory Smelosky has recently built a TENEX.SAV. But now he > needs TENDMP to boot it. > > > Do KI TENEX sources exist?? > > Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34. > > ___ > Simh mailing list > Simh@trailing-edge.com > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh -- == Richard Cornwell sky...@sky-visions.com http://sky-visions.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-cornwell-991076107 == ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX
Not that successful, sadly. I forget who precisely but they had a tarball containing a binary - just kept forgetting to make it known. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:05, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > > Phil Budne wrote: >> Rich Alderson wrote >>> I don't think anyone has bootable TENEX media. It would be a labor >>> of love to try to cross-compile TENEX under TOPS-20 on a Toad-2, then >>> build a boot program for the KI that could read it in from disk. > > It seems Cory Smelosky has recently built a TENEX.SAV. But now he needs > TENDMP to boot it. > >> Do KI TENEX sources exist?? > > Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34. > > ___ > Simh mailing list > Simh@trailing-edge.com > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX
Phil Budne wrote: > Rich Alderson wrote >> I don't think anyone has bootable TENEX media. It would be a labor >> of love to try to cross-compile TENEX under TOPS-20 on a Toad-2, then >> build a boot program for the KI that could read it in from disk. It seems Cory Smelosky has recently built a TENEX.SAV. But now he needs TENDMP to boot it. > Do KI TENEX sources exist?? Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34. ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh