Re: [Simh] TINTE is not TECO either

[Johnny Billquist]

On 2018-11-12 15:41, Paul Koning wrote:




On Nov 10, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Lars Brinkhoff  wrote:

TECO for RT-11 and SITS.  (SITS was a timesharing system for the MIT
Logo PDP-11/45.)


Regular TECO also exists for RT-11.  Is this one better?  Or just different?


I looked quickly at the code, and I think the "not TECO either" should 
be taken literally. It does not seem to be anything close to a TECO clone.


Seems like a screen oriented editor with various menus, and some kind of 
word processing capability, including also controlling a printer.


  Johnny

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Re: [Simh] TINTE is not TECO either

[Richard]

In article ,
Paul Koning  writes:

> Maybe I should post it somewhere for others to play with.  It's not the
> best Python code, but it gets the job done.  I wish I could find the GT40
> editing macros, though.

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Re: [Simh] TINTE is not TECO either

[Lars Brinkhoff]

Clem Cole wrote:
> Also, Ward has a notice description/history of Teco in his pages: Tape
> Editor and COrrector Teco was later renamed 'Text Editor', but it
> started as a tape editor.

Dan Murphy has a copy of his "The Beginnings of TECO" here:
http://tenex.opost.com/anhc-31-4-anec.pdf

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Re: [Simh] TINTE is not TECO either

[Paul Koning]

> On Nov 12, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Clem Cole  wrote:
> 
> BTW: My old friend and college, Paul Cantrell's Video Teco is still one the 
> best and most portable:  Video Teco ManualVideo Teco Sources

Speaking of portable -- as a language learning exercise I did an implementation 
of TECO in Python.  It includes screen handling as if running on a GT40.  One 
fun aspect is that the Python 3 version, naturally, treats text as Unicode 
rather than 8 bit text.

Maybe I should post it somewhere for others to play with.  It's not the best 
Python code, but it gets the job done.  I wish I could find the GT40 editing 
macros, though.

paul


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Re: [Simh] UniBone - access DEC PDP-11 UNIBUS under Linux.

[Jörg Hoppe]

Am 12.11.2018 um 15:40 schrieb Pontus Pihlgren:

Looks very promising! You mention it could become a QBUS product in the
future. Would you have to change buss drivers for that?


I think not.

For one old MSV11 memory I found they use 8838 drivers, which seem to be 
pin compatible with the current 8641.


Could it also become an Omnibus tool?


People are asking for it! It seems possible, at least for peripherals. 
Problem is, I'm not into the 8s this much, would need a companion to do.

regard,
Joerg



Regards,
Pontus.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 02:32:09PM +0100, Jörg Hoppe wrote:

Guys,

I'm about to finish another project:
"UniBone" - a Linux-to-UNIBUS bridge, based on the BeagleBone Black.

It is supposed to be a development platform for device emulation.
At the moment it can emulate memory, emulate an RL11 controller with
4 RL drives attached, and act as UNIBUS hardware test adapter.

Well, physical hardware is not exactly what SimH is about.
But there were plans to run a modified SimH on UniBone to interact
with physical
UNIBUS devices ... so you should know early.

There are some web pages at http://retrocmp.com/projects/unibone
And I'll show it on VCFE.CH in Zurich on Nov 24/25,  plugged into a
PDP-11/05.

best,

Joerg

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On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 02:32:09PM +0100, Jörg Hoppe wrote:

Guys,

I'm about to finish another project:
"UniBone" - a Linux-to-UNIBUS bridge, based on the BeagleBone Black.

It is supposed to be a development platform for device emulation.
At the moment it can emulate memory, emulate an RL11 controller with
4 RL drives attached, and act as UNIBUS hardware test adapter.

Well, physical hardware is not exactly what SimH is about.
But there were plans to run a modified SimH on UniBone to interact
with physical
UNIBUS devices ... so you should know early.

There are some web pages at http://retrocmp.com/projects/unibone
And I'll show it on VCFE.CH in Zurich on Nov 24/25,  plugged into a
PDP-11/05.

best,

Joerg

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Re: [Simh] TINTE is not TECO either

[Clem Cole]

BTW: My old friend and college, Paul Cantrell's Video Teco is still one the
best and most portable:  Video Teco Manual
Video Teco Sources

Also, Ward has a notice description/history of Teco in his pages: Tape
Editor and COrrector Teco was later
renamed 'Text Editor', but it started as a tape editor.

ᐧ

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:41 AM Paul Koning  wrote:

>
>
> > On Nov 10, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Lars Brinkhoff  wrote:
> >
> > TECO for RT-11 and SITS.  (SITS was a timesharing system for the MIT
> > Logo PDP-11/45.)
>
> Regular TECO also exists for RT-11.  Is this one better?  Or just
> different?
>
> paul
>
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Re: [Simh] TINTE is not TECO either

[Lars Brinkhoff]

Paul Koning wrote:
>> TECO for RT-11 and SITS.
> Regular TECO also exists for RT-11.  Is this one better?  Or just
> different?

I don't know.  I'm not much of an RT-11 user, or TECO user.  I just
found the source file lying around and wanted to pass it on.

It was most likely written and cross assembled on ITS, so it may be
inspired by ITS TECO rather than DEC TECO.

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Re: [Simh] TINTE is not TECO either

[Paul Koning]

> On Nov 10, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Lars Brinkhoff  wrote:
> 
> TECO for RT-11 and SITS.  (SITS was a timesharing system for the MIT
> Logo PDP-11/45.)

Regular TECO also exists for RT-11.  Is this one better?  Or just different?

paul

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Re: [Simh] UniBone - access DEC PDP-11 UNIBUS under Linux.

[Pontus Pihlgren]

Looks very promising! You mention it could become a QBUS product in the 
future. Would you have to change buss drivers for that?

Could it also become an Omnibus tool?

Regards,
Pontus.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 02:32:09PM +0100, Jörg Hoppe wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> I'm about to finish another project:
> "UniBone" - a Linux-to-UNIBUS bridge, based on the BeagleBone Black.
> 
> It is supposed to be a development platform for device emulation.
> At the moment it can emulate memory, emulate an RL11 controller with
> 4 RL drives attached, and act as UNIBUS hardware test adapter.
> 
> Well, physical hardware is not exactly what SimH is about.
> But there were plans to run a modified SimH on UniBone to interact
> with physical
> UNIBUS devices ... so you should know early.
> 
> There are some web pages at http://retrocmp.com/projects/unibone
> And I'll show it on VCFE.CH in Zurich on Nov 24/25,  plugged into a
> PDP-11/05.
> 
> best,
> 
> Joerg
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[Simh] UniBone - access DEC PDP-11 UNIBUS under Linux.

[Jörg Hoppe]

Guys,

I'm about to finish another project:
"UniBone" - a Linux-to-UNIBUS bridge, based on the BeagleBone Black.

It is supposed to be a development platform for device emulation.
At the moment it can emulate memory, emulate an RL11 controller with 4 
RL drives attached, and act as UNIBUS hardware test adapter.


Well, physical hardware is not exactly what SimH is about.
But there were plans to run a modified SimH on UniBone to interact with 
physical

UNIBUS devices ... so you should know early.

There are some web pages at http://retrocmp.com/projects/unibone
And I'll show it on VCFE.CH in Zurich on Nov 24/25,  plugged into a 
PDP-11/05.


best,

Joerg

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