[Simh] RSTS/E v7 - how to mount disk
Many thanks, if he is on this list, to whoever wrote the RSTS/E v7 installation directions. I installed and built the system successfully thanks to the included directions but am having no luck mounting SYSL1G so that I can install the 'help' and other packages. A session showing my failed attempt is below. Some short background, I'm brand new, just days old, to simh and am enjoying reading about it and learning how to use it. As a 15 year old in 1978 the first computer I ever used was a PDP11/70 running RSTS/E. After discovering simh I had to try getting this OS up and running. Not surprisingly, after nearly 40 years the commands aren't springing to mind and I can't many v7 docs on the web. Many thanks for any advice! Mike Markowski (formerly [90,34] back in HS!) sim> att rl2 rsts_sysl1g.dsk sim> b rl0 Option: DSK 22-Apr-79? 04:05 PM? Disk? DL2 This disk pack appears to be a RSTS/E formatted disk with the following characteristics: Pack ID : SYSL1G Pack Cluster Size : 1 Pack is currently : Private. Pack ID? Pack ID? Pack ID? SYSL1G Pack cluster size? 1 SATT.SYS base? MFD password? SYSTEM MFD cluster size? 16 Pre-extend directories ? PUB, PRI, or SYS? PRI Create library account ? Date last modified ? New files first ? Use previous bad block info ? Patterns? 1 Proceed (Y or N)? Y Disk pack serial # 2610431 Pattern # 1 DL2 Error RLCSRLBARLDARLMP 001205 057000 03 022035 Disk block 0 (required for bootstraps) is bad Fatal RSTS/E system initialization error! ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] RSTS/E v7 - how to mount disk
I didn't realize that's what my commands are doing... I'm reading instructions included in the tar file: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/kits/rstsv7gen.tar.Z However, by the end of the instructions it is assumed you are knowledgeable enough to mount a disk image: "To install a package use the $BUILD program. For example, if SYSL1G is mounted on DL2: ..." This assumption does not apply to me at this stage! I simply mimicked the earlier method of mounting what would become the system disk. From your comment I realize this isn't the thing to do. Thanks, Mike On 04/22/2017 05:01 PM, Paul Koning wrote: Is rsts_sysl1g supposed to be a distribution device? If so, initializing it isn't a good idea, since that will wipe its data and give you an empty file system... Where are the instructions you're using? paul On Apr 22, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Mike Markowski wrote: Many thanks, if he is on this list, to whoever wrote the RSTS/E v7 installation directions. I installed and built the system successfully thanks to the included directions but am having no luck mounting SYSL1G so that I can install the 'help' and other packages. A session showing my failed attempt is below. Some short background, I'm brand new, just days old, to simh and am enjoying reading about it and learning how to use it. As a 15 year old in 1978 the first computer I ever used was a PDP11/70 running RSTS/E. After discovering simh I had to try getting this OS up and running. Not surprisingly, after nearly 40 years the commands aren't springing to mind and I can't many v7 docs on the web. Many thanks for any advice! Mike Markowski (formerly [90,34] back in HS!) sim> att rl2 rsts_sysl1g.dsk sim> b rl0 Option: DSK 22-Apr-79? 04:05 PM? Disk? DL2 This disk pack appears to be a RSTS/E formatted disk with the following characteristics: Pack ID : SYSL1G Pack Cluster Size : 1 Pack is currently : Private. Pack ID? Pack ID? Pack ID? SYSL1G Pack cluster size? 1 SATT.SYS base? MFD password? SYSTEM MFD cluster size? 16 Pre-extend directories ? PUB, PRI, or SYS? PRI Create library account ? Date last modified ? New files first ? Use previous bad block info ? Patterns? 1 Proceed (Y or N)? Y Disk pack serial # 2610431 Pattern # 1 DL2 Error RLCSRLBARLDARLMP 001205 057000 03 022035 Disk block 0 (required for bootstraps) is bad Fatal RSTS/E system initialization error! ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] RSTS/E v7 - how to mount disk
Problem solved. I wasn't making the distinction between simulator and OS, and overlooked actually mounting it within rsts/e! That is, mount dl2:sysl1g As Paul said, no need for the DSK option. Amazing what a cup of coffee and new day can do. Thanks, Mike Markowski On 04/22/2017 05:12 PM, Mike Markowski wrote: I didn't realize that's what my commands are doing... I'm reading instructions included in the tar file: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/kits/rstsv7gen.tar.Z However, by the end of the instructions it is assumed you are knowledgeable enough to mount a disk image: "To install a package use the $BUILD program. For example, if SYSL1G is mounted on DL2: ..." This assumption does not apply to me at this stage! I simply mimicked the earlier method of mounting what would become the system disk. From your comment I realize this isn't the thing to do. Thanks, Mike On 04/22/2017 05:01 PM, Paul Koning wrote: Is rsts_sysl1g supposed to be a distribution device? If so, initializing it isn't a good idea, since that will wipe its data and give you an empty file system... Where are the instructions you're using? paul On Apr 22, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Mike Markowski wrote: Many thanks, if he is on this list, to whoever wrote the RSTS/E v7 installation directions. I installed and built the system successfully thanks to the included directions but am having no luck mounting SYSL1G so that I can install the 'help' and other packages. A session showing my failed attempt is below. Some short background, I'm brand new, just days old, to simh and am enjoying reading about it and learning how to use it. As a 15 year old in 1978 the first computer I ever used was a PDP11/70 running RSTS/E. After discovering simh I had to try getting this OS up and running. Not surprisingly, after nearly 40 years the commands aren't springing to mind and I can't many v7 docs on the web. Many thanks for any advice! Mike Markowski (formerly [90,34] back in HS!) sim> att rl2 rsts_sysl1g.dsk sim> b rl0 Option: DSK 22-Apr-79? 04:05 PM? Disk? DL2 This disk pack appears to be a RSTS/E formatted disk with the following characteristics: Pack ID : SYSL1G Pack Cluster Size : 1 Pack is currently : Private. Pack ID? Pack ID? Pack ID? SYSL1G Pack cluster size? 1 SATT.SYS base? MFD password? SYSTEM MFD cluster size? 16 Pre-extend directories ? PUB, PRI, or SYS? PRI Create library account ? Date last modified ? New files first ? Use previous bad block info ? Patterns? 1 Proceed (Y or N)? Y Disk pack serial # 2610431 Pattern # 1 DL2 Error RLCSRLBARLDARLMP 001205 057000 03 022035 Disk block 0 (required for bootstraps) is bad Fatal RSTS/E system initialization error! ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] DEC APL-11 Programmer's Reference Manual AA-5076B-TC
Hi Galen, Not sure if this is already uploaded by you or not, but I found this: https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_decpdp11aprammersReferenceManualJan80_68040338 Thanks, Mike On 05/19/2017 08:27 PM, Galen Tackett wrote: I have a PDF of this manual scanned and OCRed on my Mac. I couldn’t find this manual on Bitsavers. Does anyone know if it has been archived elsewhere? If it isn’t readily available I’d be happy to submit it for archival. Just let me know how. Galen ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners
On 02/03/2018 06:41 AM, Dave Wade wrote: -Original Message- From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Pär Moberg Sent: 03 February 2018 02:26 To: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: [Simh] PDP for beginners I am looking to put up a PDP-# machine to play with. What machine and OS should I use. I am looking for simple/beginner system, or as beginner it got. I think I would start with a PDP-8. NO telnet terminal. Simple OS, lots of software and support. If you want blinken lights try one of these:- http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-8-get-one its SIMH with a nice panel Also, not *nix, it is still alive and therefore boring. Telnet terminals would be awesome but not necessary. //Pär (or Paer) Dave Here some step by step pics of mine as I built it that will give you an idea of the effort involved. If you've ever built a kit, you'll find this is a piece of cake and a fantastic retro front end for your R-Pi! http://udel.edu/~mm/pidp8i/ Have fun, Mike Markowski ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] 101 Basic Games for RSTS/E (was Re: PDP11 on Simh for public access)
On 1/22/19 5:04 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: I have some DEC EDU material which I can scan if there are interest (and if it isn't scanned already by someone else): https://i.imgur.com/3G3wGJj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GJnFFt7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/om5kjd1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AJefLIa.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lll0LwA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lll0LwA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tqmcieK.jpg /Mattis These are great, Mattis. Thanks for scanning, and I'd love to see more! (And am happy to help with scanning.) I haven't found any repositories of similar online. Please share, if any on the list know of a source. Thanks, Mike Markowski ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
[Simh] Fwd: RSTS/E 50 Years Old...
I received this note, below, from Peter Dick today who says he is glad to have his note shared. For any old RSTS/E hands, Peter would welcome your contribution. Thanks, Mike Markowski Forwarded Message Subject:RSTS/E 50 Years Old... Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 11:12:42 +0100 From: Peter Dick <50ye...@silverware.co.uk> To: mike.ab...@gmail.com As I expect you know,RSTS was “born” on 11^th June 1970 as shown when you enter DATE$(1%) with Star Date format selected. I am planning on celebrating this milestone by gathering a total of 50 stories from people who worked with RSTS/E at some stage in their lives. I will collate these stories and send you a copy when finished. Bye/P PETER DICK, Ex Chairman of DECUS UK RSTS SIG ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
