Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-02 Thread Johnny Billquist

On 2020-07-02 04:06, Tony Nicholson wrote:


On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:24 AM James W. Laferriere 
mailto:bab...@baby-dragons.com>> wrote:


         Hello Bob ,

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020, Bob Eager wrote:
 > xterm works extremely well if set up right.

         Following up on your note above ,  Would You or someone
please post a
URL for the proper setup of xterm to emulate say a vt240/vt340/...
(ie: a color
enabled terminal) ?
         Or even the equivalent DecTerm color output ...


xterm by default understands colors using the ANSI sequences that were 
eventually defined for this. Even when you are pretending to be a VT100.



                 Tia ,  JimL


Jim,

For xterm, these are the .Xdefaults entries I have on my Mac Mini -


[...]

And it's worth pointing out that these are X resources. Just placing 
them in a file does not by itself make them apply. You might have some 
components run when you start that would load these resources, but then 
again they might not. You can always load such resources by hand, by 
giving "xrdb -load "


My resources looks like this:

*.vt100.decTerminalID: 220
*.vt100.c132: true
*.vt100.saveLines: 1000
*.ptyInitialErase: true
*.backarrowKeyIsErase: true
*.backarrowKey: false
*.sunKeyboard: true
*.rightScrollBar: true

xterm.vt100.activeIcon: false
xterm.vt100.multiScroll: true

local.utmpInhibit: false
local.title: Terminal
local.vt100.loginShell: false
local.vt100.scrollBar: true

remote.utmpInhibit: false
remote.title: Terminal
remote.vt100.loginShell: true
remote.vt100.scrollBar: true

xunix.utmpInhibit: true
xunix.title: Xunix terminal
xunix.vt100.loginShell: false
xunix.vt100.scrollBar: true

rsx.utmpInhibit: true
rsx.title: RSX terminal
rsx.vt100.loginShell: false
rsx.vt100.scrollBar: true
rsx.sunKeyboard: true

vms.utmpInhibit: true
vms.title: VMS terminal
vms.vt100.loginShell: false
vms.vt100.scrollBar: true

And this is what I use on my MAC. And then I start xterm with:

xterm +sf +sp -aw -ut -132 -ti vt220 -sb -sl 500 -name rsx &

Which then uses the resources named rsx.*
And wildcard matching means that things that start with *... are of 
course applicable, but later entries override the earlier ones, if 
applicable.
(And yes, I have some duplication of information and it could be cleaned 
up some. The file have evolved over 30 years...)


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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh (and line printer/dot matrix printer emulation)

2020-07-01 Thread Johan
For those on windows, free CryptoTerm is also a great terminal emulator
for VT and TN emulations.

Also, if running Hercules, see MVSOPS by Andrew Gadsby.
https://mvs.gadsby.me.uk
It is a full free facility for MVS, and now also can capture
automatically VMS printouts.
Soon his version will offer different fonts for different printers.

Johan

Timothy Stark schreef op 2020-07-01 19:55:

> Yes that is right. I have MAME software too.  That emulates a lot more than 
> just arcades including UNIX workstations and terminals.  There are some dot 
> matrix printer emulation like MPS-802, etc. 
> 
> SecureCRT do not emulates ReGIS commands for graphics. I have some progems 
> need ReGIS emulation. There is VT240 emulation on MAME support ReGIS 
> graphics.  We discussed about VT340 terminal emulation and dumping firmware a 
> few years ago but they did not implement VT340 emulation on MAME.  Also, 
> there is VT420 firmware available for terminal emulation but they had not 
> implemented that yet. Also they need to implement VT125 emulation since there 
> are VT125 firmware images on the Internet. 
> 
> Also I found LA210 technical manuals and schematics that emulate Epson MX80 
> printer but uses 8085A processor instead of 8048 processor (in MX80 printer). 
> I was looking for LA210 firmwares but had not find them yet. 
> 
> I have a copy of Epson MX80 firmwares and technical manual for implementing 
> printer emulation. 
> 
> I discovered Hercules studio's printer emulation that produces PDF files.  
> Take a look on http://www.softdevlabs.com/hercprt.html 
> 
> Also I found older version of Hercules studio source codes that includes 
> hercprt module on SourceForge. 
> 
> I think that printer emulation implementation is needed for SIMH emulator for 
> line printer, dot matrix printer, etc. 
> 
> FROM: Simh  ON BEHALF OF Patrick Finnegan
> SENT: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:07 PM
> TO: SIMH 
> SUBJECT: Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 12:37 Dan Gahlinger  wrote: 
> 
>> or SecureCRT which has a whole slew of VT terminal support, control and 
>> options. 
>> 
>> free for 30 days but definitely worth the price. 
>> 
>> it's what I use for my vax emulation with simh 
>> 
>> MAME is multi ARCADE machine emulator, and while it may support or use the 
>> roms for VT terminals, it's only meant for use with the game machines that 
>> need it. 
>> 
>> don't ask me which ones, I have no idea.
> 
> MAME emulates a lot more than you think, including various workstations and 
> terminals. Just like simh emulates more than just DEC hardware. 
> 
> http://www.progettoemma.net/mess/sysset.php 
> 
> Also, Peter said he's using Linux. Idk why everyone is trying to suggest 
> Windows terminal emulators to him. There's a lot better VT terminal emulators 
> than Putty and SecureCRT on Linux. 
> 
> Pat 
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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Tony Nicholson
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:24 AM James W. Laferriere 
wrote:

> Hello Bob ,
>
> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020, Bob Eager wrote:
> > xterm works extremely well if set up right.
>
> Following up on your note above ,  Would You or someone please
> post a
> URL for the proper setup of xterm to emulate say a vt240/vt340/... (ie: a
> color
> enabled terminal) ?
> Or even the equivalent DecTerm color output ...
>
> Tia ,  JimL
>

Jim,

For xterm, these are the .Xdefaults entries I have on my Mac Mini -

XTerm*VT100*c132:   True
XTerm*VT100*Font:   7x14
XTerm*scrollBar:True
XTerm*background:   black
XTerm*foreground:   green
XTerm*customization:-color
XTerm*decTerminalID:220
XTerm*utf8: 0

I use this with a full-sized Apple keyboard and it just works.

In the past I used a shell script to tweak various key mappings.

The xterm FAQ site at https://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html
has further explanations and a sample of the script you can
adapt for your keyboard as required.

Tony
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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread James W. Laferriere

Hello Bob ,

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020, Bob Eager wrote:

xterm works extremely well if set up right.


	Following up on your note above ,  Would You or someone please post a 
URL for the proper setup of xterm to emulate say a vt240/vt340/... (ie: a color 
enabled terminal) ?

Or even the equivalent DecTerm color output ...

Tia ,  JimL
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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Johnny Billquist

On 2020-07-01 21:08, Bob Eager wrote:

xterm works extremely well if set up right.


So far, xterm is the only one I've used that actually works correctly. 
Even putty does some things wrong.
(That said, the terminal program coming with Pathworks (the name escapes 
me), might also be good enough, from what I gather, but since I don't 
really use Windows much, it's mostly irrelevant for me).


  Johnny



On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:37:24 +
Dan Gahlinger  wrote:


or SecureCRT which has a whole slew of VT terminal support, control
and options. free for 30 days but definitely worth the price.

it's what I use for my vax emulation with simh

MAME is multi ARCADE machine emulator, and while it may support or
use the roms for VT terminals, it's only meant for use with the game
machines that need it. don't ask me which ones, I have no idea.

as per mame maybe you could be confusing "rom" with "firmware"

mame emulating a VT terminal makes zero sense.

Dan

From: Simh  on behalf of Hittner,
David T [US] (MS)  Sent: Wednesday, July 1,
2020 11:17:47 AM To: Peter Allan ; Simh
Trailing-Edge Mailing List  Subject: Re:
[Simh] EXT : MAME and simh


Why not use PuTTY for the VT terminal emulator, which is known to
work with SIMH?



What is the point of trying to use MAME for VT emulation?



From: Simh  On Behalf Of Peter Allan
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:34 AM
To: Simh Trailing-Edge Mailing List 
Subject: EXT :[Simh] MAME and simh



Hi folks,



I am trying to get MAME to talk to simh in order to use MAME as a VT
terminal emulator. However, I am failing to get the two to talk to
each other. I have been using simh for over 10 years, but I only
picked up MAME two days ago.



I have tried MAME v 0.222 on Windows 10 and MAME v 0.208 on Debian
10.1. Both start up successfully, but I have trouble using them. I
also have a set of 13 ROMs for several VT terminals.



I have found some helpful information on the web, specifically



https://zork.net/~st/jottings/Real-VT102-emulation-with-MAME.html



and



  https://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/MAME_and_SIMH



The latter page looks like it should be just what I am looking for,
but it describes using a VT240 ROM. My vt240 ROM doesn't work. My
vt220 ROM does work, but when I follow the instructions to 'press F3
to enter setup', nothing happens.



I have also got the impression that some of the command line options
for mame have changed over time, so some older information on the web
may no longer be accurate.



So, has anyone got this combination to work? If so, can they send me
exact instructions on how to do it please. I hope that I am simply
failing to do something that will become obvious with hindsight.



My normal Linux system is CentOS 6, CentOS 7 or Fedora 31, but I also
have Debian 10.1 available.



I run several simulated VAX and PDP-11 instances using simh.



Cheers



Peter Allan




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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Bob Eager
xterm works extremely well if set up right.

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:37:24 +
Dan Gahlinger  wrote:

> or SecureCRT which has a whole slew of VT terminal support, control
> and options. free for 30 days but definitely worth the price.
> 
> it's what I use for my vax emulation with simh
> 
> MAME is multi ARCADE machine emulator, and while it may support or
> use the roms for VT terminals, it's only meant for use with the game
> machines that need it. don't ask me which ones, I have no idea.
> 
> as per mame maybe you could be confusing "rom" with "firmware"
> 
> mame emulating a VT terminal makes zero sense.
> 
> Dan
> 
> From: Simh  on behalf of Hittner,
> David T [US] (MS)  Sent: Wednesday, July 1,
> 2020 11:17:47 AM To: Peter Allan ; Simh
> Trailing-Edge Mailing List  Subject: Re:
> [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh
> 
> 
> Why not use PuTTY for the VT terminal emulator, which is known to
> work with SIMH?
> 
> 
> 
> What is the point of trying to use MAME for VT emulation?
> 
> 
> 
> From: Simh  On Behalf Of Peter Allan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:34 AM
> To: Simh Trailing-Edge Mailing List 
> Subject: EXT :[Simh] MAME and simh
> 
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> 
> 
> I am trying to get MAME to talk to simh in order to use MAME as a VT
> terminal emulator. However, I am failing to get the two to talk to
> each other. I have been using simh for over 10 years, but I only
> picked up MAME two days ago.
> 
> 
> 
> I have tried MAME v 0.222 on Windows 10 and MAME v 0.208 on Debian
> 10.1. Both start up successfully, but I have trouble using them. I
> also have a set of 13 ROMs for several VT terminals.
> 
> 
> 
> I have found some helpful information on the web, specifically
> 
> 
> 
> https://zork.net/~st/jottings/Real-VT102-emulation-with-MAME.html
> 
> 
> 
> and
> 
> 
> 
>  https://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/MAME_and_SIMH
> 
> 
> 
> The latter page looks like it should be just what I am looking for,
> but it describes using a VT240 ROM. My vt240 ROM doesn't work. My
> vt220 ROM does work, but when I follow the instructions to 'press F3
> to enter setup', nothing happens.
> 
> 
> 
> I have also got the impression that some of the command line options
> for mame have changed over time, so some older information on the web
> may no longer be accurate.
> 
> 
> 
> So, has anyone got this combination to work? If so, can they send me
> exact instructions on how to do it please. I hope that I am simply
> failing to do something that will become obvious with hindsight.
> 
> 
> 
> My normal Linux system is CentOS 6, CentOS 7 or Fedora 31, but I also
> have Debian 10.1 available.
> 
> 
> 
> I run several simulated VAX and PDP-11 instances using simh.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Peter Allan
> 
> 

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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Craig Hargreaves
Putty and other terminal emulators do not support all of the features of a
real VT. Soft fonts, REGIS., Sixel Graphics  etc. Utilising MAME and a real
ROM will (should).  The DECWindows DECTerm supports most of the features.

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020, 16:18 Hittner, David T [US] (MS), 
wrote:

> Why not use PuTTY for the VT terminal emulator, which is known to work
> with SIMH?
>
>
>
> What is the point of trying to use MAME for VT emulation?
>
>
>
> *From:* Simh  *On Behalf Of *Peter Allan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:34 AM
> *To:* Simh Trailing-Edge Mailing List 
> *Subject:* EXT :[Simh] MAME and simh
>
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
>
> I am trying to get MAME to talk to simh in order to use MAME as a VT
> terminal emulator. However, I am failing to get the two to talk to each
> other. I have been using simh for over 10 years, but I only picked up MAME
> two days ago.
>
>
>
> I have tried MAME v 0.222 on Windows 10 and MAME v 0.208 on Debian 10.1.
> Both start up successfully, but I have trouble using them. I also have a
> set of 13 ROMs for several VT terminals.
>
>
>
> I have found some helpful information on the web, specifically
>
>
>
> https://zork.net/~st/jottings/Real-VT102-emulation-with-MAME.html
>
>
>
> and
>
>
>
>  https://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/MAME_and_SIMH
>
>
>
> The latter page looks like it should be just what I am looking for, but it
> describes using a VT240 ROM. My vt240 ROM doesn't work. My vt220 ROM does
> work, but when I follow the instructions to 'press F3 to enter setup',
> nothing happens.
>
>
>
> I have also got the impression that some of the command line options for
> mame have changed over time, so some older information on the web may no
> longer be accurate.
>
>
>
> So, has anyone got this combination to work? If so, can they send me exact
> instructions on how to do it please. I hope that I am simply failing to do
> something that will become obvious with hindsight.
>
>
>
> My normal Linux system is CentOS 6, CentOS 7 or Fedora 31, but I also have
> Debian 10.1 available.
>
>
>
> I run several simulated VAX and PDP-11 instances using simh.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Peter Allan
>
>
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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Dan Gahlinger wrote:
> SecureCRT is available for Linux, natively!

FWIW, PuTTY too.

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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh (and line printer/dot matrix printer emulation)

2020-07-01 Thread Timothy Stark
Yes that is right. I have MAME software too.  That emulates a lot more than 
just arcades including UNIX workstations and terminals.  There are some dot 
matrix printer emulation like MPS-802, etc.

 

SecureCRT do not emulates ReGIS commands for graphics. I have some progems need 
ReGIS emulation. There is VT240 emulation on MAME support ReGIS graphics.  We 
discussed about VT340 terminal emulation and dumping firmware a few years ago 
but they did not implement VT340 emulation on MAME.  Also, there is VT420 
firmware available for terminal emulation but they had not implemented that 
yet. Also they need to implement VT125 emulation since there are VT125 firmware 
images on the Internet.

 

Also I found LA210 technical manuals and schematics that emulate Epson MX80 
printer but uses 8085A processor instead of 8048 processor (in MX80 printer). I 
was looking for LA210 firmwares but had not find them yet.

 

I have a copy of Epson MX80 firmwares and technical manual for implementing 
printer emulation. 

 

I discovered Hercules studio’s printer emulation that produces PDF files.  Take 
a look on http://www.softdevlabs.com/hercprt.html

Also I found older version of Hercules studio source codes that includes 
hercprt module on SourceForge. 

 

I think that printer emulation implementation is needed for SIMH emulator for 
line printer, dot matrix printer, etc. 

 

 

From: Simh  On Behalf Of Patrick Finnegan
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:07 PM
To: SIMH 
Subject: Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

 

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 12:37 Dan Gahlinger mailto:dgahl...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

or SecureCRT which has a whole slew of VT terminal support, control and options.

free for 30 days but definitely worth the price.

 

it's what I use for my vax emulation with simh

 

MAME is multi ARCADE machine emulator, and while it may support or use the roms 
for VT terminals, it's only meant for use with the game machines that need it.

don't ask me which ones, I have no idea.

 

MAME emulates a lot more than you think, including various workstations and 
terminals. Just like simh emulates more than just DEC hardware.

 

http://www.progettoemma.net/mess/sysset.php

 

Also, Peter said he's using Linux. Idk why everyone is trying to suggest 
Windows terminal emulators to him. There's a lot better VT terminal emulators 
than Putty and SecureCRT on Linux.

 

Pat

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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Wilm Boerhout

Hittner, David T [US] (MS) schreef op 1-7-2020 om 17:17:


Why not use PuTTY for the VT terminal emulator, which is known to work 
with SIMH?


What is the point of trying to use MAME for VT emulation?

*From:*Simh  *On Behalf Of *Peter Allan
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:34 AM
*To:* Simh Trailing-Edge Mailing List 
*Subject:* EXT :[Simh] MAME and simh

Hi folks,

I am trying to get MAME to talk to simh in order to use MAME as a VT 
terminal emulator. However, I am failing to get the two to talk to 
each other. I have been using simh for over 10 years, but I only 
picked up MAME two days ago.


I have tried MAME v 0.222 on Windows 10 and MAME v 0.208 on Debian 
10.1. Both start up successfully, but I have trouble using them. I 
also have a set of 13 ROMs for several VT terminals.


I have found some helpful information on the web, specifically

https://zork.net/~st/jottings/Real-VT102-emulation-with-MAME.html

and

https://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/MAME_and_SIMH

The latter page looks like it should be just what I am looking for, 
but it describes using a VT240 ROM. My vt240 ROM doesn't work. My 
vt220 ROM does work, but when I follow the instructions to 'press F3 
to enter setup', nothing happens.


I have also got the impression that some of the command line options 
for mame have changed over time, so some older information on the web 
may no longer be accurate.


So, has anyone got this combination to work? If so, can they send me 
exact instructions on how to do it please. I hope that I am simply 
failing to do something that will become obvious with hindsight.


My normal Linux system is CentOS 6, CentOS 7 or Fedora 31, but I also 
have Debian 10.1 available.


I run several simulated VAX and PDP-11 instances using simh.

Cheers

Peter Allan



While PuTTY is functionally "OK" on both Linux and Windows, it is not 
particularly "accurate" as an emulator of the real VT102 (which it 
identifies as)


A ROM based emulator may be more accurate, in addition to having more 
lifelike fonts etc. I have no personal experience with Mame.


So, in all, it depends what you are looking for. I feel most comfortable 
using PuTYY with the "Glass TTY" VT font (look it up, nice piece of work!)


/Wilm

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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Harald Arnesen
Patrick Finnegan [01/07/2020 19.07]:

> Also, Peter said he's using Linux. Idk why everyone is trying to suggest
> Windows terminal emulators to him. There's a lot better VT terminal
> emulators than Putty and SecureCRT on Linux.

There is a Linux version of Putty. I have never used it, so I can't
comment on how good it is.
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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Dan Gahlinger
Uh, Pat,

SecureCRT is available for Linux, natively!
I use it all the time.

And I use it for ALL my Linux systems, it's the best terminal software I've 
ever found,
And I've tried tons of them.

I'd never go with anything else.

Works beautifully on Linux, really powerful, and programmable,
built-in file transfer support, everything you could possibly want.

and with terminal emulation "themes" you can get a custom setup for your 
sessions, also customizable, create your own if you like.
but "Dark Pastel" for the win 😉

I know it seems "odd" to use software like this when Linux has a ton, but 
really, there's nothing better.

I could never go back.

Dan.

From: Simh  on behalf of Patrick Finnegan 

Sent: July 1, 2020 1:07 PM
To: SIMH 
Subject: Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 12:37 Dan Gahlinger 
mailto:dgahl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
or SecureCRT which has a whole slew of VT terminal support, control and options.
free for 30 days but definitely worth the price.

it's what I use for my vax emulation with simh

MAME is multi ARCADE machine emulator, and while it may support or use the roms 
for VT terminals, it's only meant for use with the game machines that need it.
don't ask me which ones, I have no idea.

MAME emulates a lot more than you think, including various workstations and 
terminals. Just like simh emulates more than just DEC hardware.

http://www.progettoemma.net/mess/sysset.php

Also, Peter said he's using Linux. Idk why everyone is trying to suggest 
Windows terminal emulators to him. There's a lot better VT terminal emulators 
than Putty and SecureCRT on Linux.

Pat
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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Patrick Finnegan
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 12:37 Dan Gahlinger  wrote:

> or SecureCRT which has a whole slew of VT terminal support, control and
> options.
> free for 30 days but definitely worth the price.
>
> it's what I use for my vax emulation with simh
>
> MAME is multi ARCADE machine emulator, and while it may support or use the
> roms for VT terminals, it's only meant for use with the game machines that
> need it.
> don't ask me which ones, I have no idea.
>

MAME emulates a lot more than you think, including various workstations and
terminals. Just like simh emulates more than just DEC hardware.

http://www.progettoemma.net/mess/sysset.php

Also, Peter said he's using Linux. Idk why everyone is trying to suggest
Windows terminal emulators to him. There's a lot better VT terminal
emulators than Putty and SecureCRT on Linux.

Pat
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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Dan Gahlinger
or SecureCRT which has a whole slew of VT terminal support, control and options.
free for 30 days but definitely worth the price.

it's what I use for my vax emulation with simh

MAME is multi ARCADE machine emulator, and while it may support or use the roms 
for VT terminals, it's only meant for use with the game machines that need it.
don't ask me which ones, I have no idea.

as per mame maybe you could be confusing "rom" with "firmware"

mame emulating a VT terminal makes zero sense.

Dan

From: Simh  on behalf of Hittner, David T [US] 
(MS) 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:17:47 AM
To: Peter Allan ; Simh Trailing-Edge Mailing List 

Subject: Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh


Why not use PuTTY for the VT terminal emulator, which is known to work with 
SIMH?



What is the point of trying to use MAME for VT emulation?



From: Simh  On Behalf Of Peter Allan
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:34 AM
To: Simh Trailing-Edge Mailing List 
Subject: EXT :[Simh] MAME and simh



Hi folks,



I am trying to get MAME to talk to simh in order to use MAME as a VT terminal 
emulator. However, I am failing to get the two to talk to each other. I have 
been using simh for over 10 years, but I only picked up MAME two days ago.



I have tried MAME v 0.222 on Windows 10 and MAME v 0.208 on Debian 10.1. Both 
start up successfully, but I have trouble using them. I also have a set of 13 
ROMs for several VT terminals.



I have found some helpful information on the web, specifically



https://zork.net/~st/jottings/Real-VT102-emulation-with-MAME.html



and



 https://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/MAME_and_SIMH



The latter page looks like it should be just what I am looking for, but it 
describes using a VT240 ROM. My vt240 ROM doesn't work. My vt220 ROM does work, 
but when I follow the instructions to 'press F3 to enter setup', nothing 
happens.



I have also got the impression that some of the command line options for mame 
have changed over time, so some older information on the web may no longer be 
accurate.



So, has anyone got this combination to work? If so, can they send me exact 
instructions on how to do it please. I hope that I am simply failing to do 
something that will become obvious with hindsight.



My normal Linux system is CentOS 6, CentOS 7 or Fedora 31, but I also have 
Debian 10.1 available.



I run several simulated VAX and PDP-11 instances using simh.



Cheers



Peter Allan


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Re: [Simh] EXT : MAME and simh

2020-07-01 Thread Hittner, David T [US] (MS)
Why not use PuTTY for the VT terminal emulator, which is known to work with 
SIMH?

What is the point of trying to use MAME for VT emulation?

From: Simh  On Behalf Of Peter Allan
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:34 AM
To: Simh Trailing-Edge Mailing List 
Subject: EXT :[Simh] MAME and simh

Hi folks,

I am trying to get MAME to talk to simh in order to use MAME as a VT terminal 
emulator. However, I am failing to get the two to talk to each other. I have 
been using simh for over 10 years, but I only picked up MAME two days ago.

I have tried MAME v 0.222 on Windows 10 and MAME v 0.208 on Debian 10.1. Both 
start up successfully, but I have trouble using them. I also have a set of 13 
ROMs for several VT terminals.

I have found some helpful information on the web, specifically

https://zork.net/~st/jottings/Real-VT102-emulation-with-MAME.html

and

 https://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/MAME_and_SIMH

The latter page looks like it should be just what I am looking for, but it 
describes using a VT240 ROM. My vt240 ROM doesn't work. My vt220 ROM does work, 
but when I follow the instructions to 'press F3 to enter setup', nothing 
happens.

I have also got the impression that some of the command line options for mame 
have changed over time, so some older information on the web may no longer be 
accurate.

So, has anyone got this combination to work? If so, can they send me exact 
instructions on how to do it please. I hope that I am simply failing to do 
something that will become obvious with hindsight.

My normal Linux system is CentOS 6, CentOS 7 or Fedora 31, but I also have 
Debian 10.1 available.

I run several simulated VAX and PDP-11 instances using simh.

Cheers

Peter Allan

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