Re: [Simh] EXT : Unable to connect to ethernet

2011-05-17 Thread Robert F. Thomas
I thought that I had.  I did make many attempts.  The host system adapter's
MAC address was specified as the XQ0 MAC address, etc.

Sincerely,
Robert F. Thomas

 355 Providence Highway 
Westwood, MA USA 02090
(  Office Phone - (781) 329-9200
* mail to: r...@asthomas.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Hittner, David T (IS) [mailto:david.hitt...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 3:40 PM
To: Robert F. Thomas; simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: RE: EXT :[Simh] Unable to connect to ethernet

You need to *carefully* read the SIMH FAQ section regarding wireless
Ethernet.

SIMH wireless networking is a lot harder to configure correctly than wired
Ethernet because it just looks like Ethernet, and because many wireless
routers suppress unregistered simulated MAC addresses to control
bandwidth.

Dave Hittner

-Original Message-
From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com]
On Behalf Of Robert F. Thomas
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 3:04 PM
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: EXT :[Simh] Unable to connect to ethernet

I omitted vax.inc:

set rq0 ra90
set rq1 cdrom
att rq0 vms.dsk
att rq1 vax071.iso
att xq0 eth1
set cpu 128M

Sincerely,
Robert F. Thomas

 355 Providence Highway 
Westwood, MA USA 02090
(  Office Phone - (781) 329-9200
* mail to: r...@asthomas.com
 


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Re: [Simh] EXT : Unable to connect to ethernet

2011-05-17 Thread Hittner, David T (IS)
If the standard XQ MAC of 08-00-2b-aa-bb-cc is used, and the virtual NIC is 
attached to a wireless controller, then any packets which are not addressed 
to/from your registered PC's wireless MAC address may be legally dropped out 
by the wireless router to conserve bandwidth.

The only way to debug a wireless router connection to run WireShark on the host 
PC and watch the packet traffic, while also running WireShark on a wired PC on 
the network to see if you see all the packets traversing the wireless link 
correctly. It almost never does what you think it will, because wireless 
routers are allowed to drop non-essential packets to conserve bandwidth, and 
non-TCP protocols tend to get axed, because home routers usually don't need to 
deal with non-TCP packets.

You can 'fake' the simulated NIC's MAC to be the same MAC as the PC's wireless 
NIC MAC to fool the wireless packet dropping, but this will only work if you 
are not running decnet phase IV or decnet phase V in compatibility mode, since 
decnet phase IV forcibly changes the hardware MAC to a decnet-encoded value. 
This technique will always work if you're only running TCP/IP on the simulated 
system, since the simulated NIC will see all the (matching MAC) IP packets, and 
throw out the incorrect IP-addressed packets. If you're running decnet phase V 
not in compatibility mode, this technique will still work, but decnet phase V 
will eject a lot of unknown protocol messages to the console - just set term 
opa0: /nobro/perm to shut it up, or use NCL to disable the warnings.

Some router/wireless card combinations will work flawlessly to route 
non-registered MAC addresses, most won't.

Wireless Ethernet looks like Ethernet .. but it isn't Ethernet.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Robert F. Thomas [mailto:r...@asthomas.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:53 AM
To: Hittner, David T (IS); simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: RE: EXT :[Simh] Unable to connect to ethernet

I thought that I had.  I did make many attempts.  The host system adapter's
MAC address was specified as the XQ0 MAC address, etc.

Sincerely,
Robert F. Thomas

 355 Providence Highway 
Westwood, MA USA 02090
(  Office Phone - (781) 329-9200
* mail to: r...@asthomas.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Hittner, David T (IS) [mailto:david.hitt...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 3:40 PM
To: Robert F. Thomas; simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: RE: EXT :[Simh] Unable to connect to ethernet

You need to *carefully* read the SIMH FAQ section regarding wireless
Ethernet.

SIMH wireless networking is a lot harder to configure correctly than wired
Ethernet because it just looks like Ethernet, and because many wireless
routers suppress unregistered simulated MAC addresses to control
bandwidth.

Dave Hittner

-Original Message-
From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com]
On Behalf Of Robert F. Thomas
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 3:04 PM
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: EXT :[Simh] Unable to connect to ethernet

I omitted vax.inc:

set rq0 ra90
set rq1 cdrom
att rq0 vms.dsk
att rq1 vax071.iso
att xq0 eth1
set cpu 128M

Sincerely,
Robert F. Thomas

 355 Providence Highway 
Westwood, MA USA 02090
(  Office Phone - (781) 329-9200
* mail to: r...@asthomas.com
 


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Re: [Simh] EXT : Unable to connect to ethernet

2011-05-16 Thread Hittner, David T (IS)
You need to *carefully* read the SIMH FAQ section regarding wireless Ethernet.

SIMH wireless networking is a lot harder to configure correctly than wired 
Ethernet because it just looks like Ethernet, and because many wireless 
routers suppress unregistered simulated MAC addresses to control bandwidth.

Dave Hittner

-Original Message-
From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert F. Thomas
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 3:04 PM
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: EXT :[Simh] Unable to connect to ethernet

I omitted vax.inc:

set rq0 ra90
set rq1 cdrom
att rq0 vms.dsk
att rq1 vax071.iso
att xq0 eth1
set cpu 128M

Sincerely,
Robert F. Thomas

 355 Providence Highway 
Westwood, MA USA 02090
(  Office Phone - (781) 329-9200
* mail to: r...@asthomas.com
 


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