Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
Nope, still getting size function failed. [ken@raptor Disks]$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5120 of=rt11dat.dsk 5120+0 records in 5120+0 records out 5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 0.0115284 s, 455 MB/s [ken@raptor Disks]$ pdp11 rt11.cmd PDP-11 simulator V3.6-1 Create bad block table on last track? [N] RT-11FB V05.03 . initialize/noquery dl2: ?DUP-F-Size function failed It does work for RK05 though. -Original Message- From: Jacob Goense [mailto:d...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 20:31 To: Jacob Goense Cc: Jacob Goense; Ken Hall; simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 Anyone know how to initialize a disk under RT-11 with simh? I can format and initialize RK05 images, but INITIALIZE fails on RL01 with ?DUP-F-Size function failed. Assuming [snip previous reply after misreading] Here is for the RL01. [snip previous reply after still misreading] Ok, that was for the RL02, sorry for again not getting your question right. Anyway, the answer for the RL01/RL02 disks is, mind the badblocks track. root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5120 of=rl01.dsk 5120+0 records in 5120+0 records out 5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 0.0623074 s, 84.1 MB/s root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# cat 1.ini set ptr dis set ptp dis set lpt enabled set dz DISABLED set RK dis set HK dis set rx dis set rp dis set tm dis set tq dis set xq dis set tti 8b set tto 8b set cpu 11/73 512K attach LPT lpt.txt set rl1 writeenabled set rl1 rl01 attach rl1 rl01.dsk set rl0 writeenabled set rl0 rl02 attach rl0 rl0.dsk set rl0 badblock set rl1 badblock boot rl0 root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# pdp11 1.ini PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1 Disabling CR Overwrite last track? [N] Y Overwrite last track? [N] Y RT-11FB V05.03 .INITIALIZE/NOQUERY DL1: .DIR DL1: 0 Files, 0 Blocks 10172 Free blocks . ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
Nope, still getting size function failed. [ken@raptor Disks]$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5120 of=rt11dat.dsk 5120+0 records in 5120+0 records out 5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 0.0115284 s, 455 MB/s [ken@raptor Disks]$ pdp11 rt11.cmd PDP-11 simulator V3.6-1 Create bad block table on last track? [N] What if you give a Y the first time Simh asks if it can write on the last track? ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
Same thing. I'm a bit puzzled why it keeps asking me that anyway. It should only ask me the first time. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jacob Goense d...@xs4all.nl wrote: Nope, still getting size function failed. [ken@raptor Disks]$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5120 of=rt11dat.dsk 5120+0 records in 5120+0 records out 5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 0.0115284 s, 455 MB/s [ken@raptor Disks]$ pdp11 rt11.cmd PDP-11 simulator V3.6-1 Create bad block table on last track? [N] What if you give a Y the first time Simh asks if it can write on the last track? ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall)
I just tried this under both RT v4 and v5.3, and it works fine on a stock release. However, if you either (a) fail to write the bad block table or (b) attach an RL01-sized file to a drive that's declared to be an RL02, rather than AUTOSIZE, RT will get very confused, and the INIT will fail. /Bob On 12/21/2011 12:00 PM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote: Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall)
I'm just letting the emulator create the file. I have three defined in the cmd file, DL0-DL2. Disks that are already initialized (DL0 and DL1) are fine, but if I delete DL2 and let the emulator recreate it, I get these errors. So far the only way I've been able to create a working disk image is to copy an existing one, and remove all the files. Bob, is there anything special in your startup cmd file for the disks? This is what I have: [ken@raptor Disks]$ cat rt11.cmd ATTACH RL0 rt11run.dsk ATTACH RL1 rtv53_rl.dsk ATTACH RL2 rt11dat.dsk SET RL2 BADBLOCK BOOT RL0 RL2 is the one I'm trying to initialize. -Original Message- From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Bob Supnik Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:51 To: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) I just tried this under both RT v4 and v5.3, and it works fine on a stock release. However, if you either (a) fail to write the bad block table or (b) attach an RL01-sized file to a drive that's declared to be an RL02, rather than AUTOSIZE, RT will get very confused, and the INIT will fail. /Bob On 12/21/2011 12:00 PM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote: Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall)
Ok... I have it. The stock systems have only two RL units (see the RT5.0 Installation Guide). So when you try to init units 2 or 3, the requests go to unit 0 and fail. (RT11 could give better error messages, but it doesn't.) This code snippet from the distributed sources confirms it: .IIF NDF DL$UN, DL$UN == 2 .IIF GT DL$UN-4, DL$UN == 4 .IIF LE DL$UN, DL$UN == 1 .IRPX,\DL$UN .SBTTL *** THIS HANDLER SUPPORTS X UNITS *** .ENDR You need to generate a custom system to get 4 units. /Bob On 12/21/2011 1:10 PM, Ken Hall wrote: I'm just letting the emulator create the file. I have three defined in the cmd file, DL0-DL2. Disks that are already initialized (DL0 and DL1) are fine, but if I delete DL2 and let the emulator recreate it, I get these errors. So far the only way I've been able to create a working disk image is to copy an existing one, and remove all the files. Bob, is there anything special in your startup cmd file for the disks? This is what I have: [ken@raptor Disks]$ cat rt11.cmd ATTACH RL0 rt11run.dsk ATTACH RL1 rtv53_rl.dsk ATTACH RL2 rt11dat.dsk SET RL2 BADBLOCK BOOT RL0 RL2 is the one I'm trying to initialize. -Original Message- From: simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Bob Supnik Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:51 To: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) I just tried this under both RT v4 and v5.3, and it works fine on a stock release. However, if you either (a) fail to write the bad block table or (b) attach an RL01-sized file to a drive that's declared to be an RL02, rather than AUTOSIZE, RT will get very confused, and the INIT will fail. /Bob On 12/21/2011 12:00 PM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote: Initializing disks under RT11 (Ken Hall) ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
[Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
Anyone know how to initialize a disk under RT-11 with simh? I can format and initialize RK05 images, but INITIALIZE fails on RL01 with ?DUP-F-Size function failed. Thanks. ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
Anyone know how to initialize a disk under RT-11 with simh? I can format and initialize RK05 images, but INITIALIZE fails on RL01 with ?DUP-F-Size function failed. Assuming ftp://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixArchive/PDP-11/Distributions/research/Dennis_v6/v6doc.gz is a RK05 image: root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# cat 5.ini set ptr dis set ptp dis set lpt enabled set dz DISABLED set RK ENABLE set HK dis set rx dis set rp dis set tm dis set tq dis set xq dis set tti 8b set tto 8b set cpu 11/73 128K set rl0 writeenabled set rl0 rl02 attach rl0 rl0.dsk set rl0 badblock SET RK0 WRITEENABLED ATTACH RK0 v6root boot rl0 root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# ls -l v6root -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2048000 Dec 20 23:29 v6root root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# pdp11 5.ini PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1 Disabling CR Overwrite last track? [N] RT-11FB V05.03 .INITIALIZE/NOQUERY RK: .DIR RK: 0 Files, 0 Blocks 4762 Free blocks . ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
Anyone know how to initialize a disk under RT-11 with simh? I can format and initialize RK05 images, but INITIALIZE fails on RL01 with ?DUP-F-Size function failed. Assuming [snip previous reply after misreading] Here is for the RL01. root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# dd if=/dev/zero of=rl1.dsk bs=1024 count=10230 10230+0 records in 10230+0 records out 10475520 bytes (10 MB) copied, 0.133831 s, 78.3 MB/s root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# ls -l rl1.dsk -rw--- 1 root root 10475520 Dec 21 00:00 rl1.dsk root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# cat 01.ini set ptr dis set ptp dis set lpt enabled set dz DISABLED set RK dis set HK dis set rx dis set rp dis set tm dis set tq dis set xq dis set tti 8b set tto 8b set cpu 11/73 512K attach LPT lpt.txt set rl1 writeenabled set rl1 rl02 attach rl1 rl1.dsk set rl0 writeenabled set rl0 rl02 attach rl0 rl0.dsk set rl0 badblock set rl1 badblock boot rl0 root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# pdp11 01.ini PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1 Disabling CR Overwrite last track? [N] Y Overwrite last track? [N] Y RT-11FB V05.03 .INITIALIZE/NOQUERY DL1: .DIR DL1: 0 Files, 0 Blocks 20382 Free blocks . [CTRL-E] Simulation stopped, PC: 152656 (BEQ 152676) sim quit Goodbye root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# ls -l rl1.dsk -rw--- 1 root root 10478080 Dec 21 00:00 rl1.dsk ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] Initializing disks under RT11
Anyone know how to initialize a disk under RT-11 with simh? I can format and initialize RK05 images, but INITIALIZE fails on RL01 with ?DUP-F-Size function failed. Assuming [snip previous reply after misreading] Here is for the RL01. [snip previous reply after still misreading] Ok, that was for the RL02, sorry for again not getting your question right. Anyway, the answer for the RL01/RL02 disks is, mind the badblocks track. root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5120 of=rl01.dsk 5120+0 records in 5120+0 records out 5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 0.0623074 s, 84.1 MB/s root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# cat 1.ini set ptr dis set ptp dis set lpt enabled set dz DISABLED set RK dis set HK dis set rx dis set rp dis set tm dis set tq dis set xq dis set tti 8b set tto 8b set cpu 11/73 512K attach LPT lpt.txt set rl1 writeenabled set rl1 rl01 attach rl1 rl01.dsk set rl0 writeenabled set rl0 rl02 attach rl0 rl0.dsk set rl0 badblock set rl1 badblock boot rl0 root@mercury:/museum/fuzzball/a# pdp11 1.ini PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1 Disabling CR Overwrite last track? [N] Y Overwrite last track? [N] Y RT-11FB V05.03 .INITIALIZE/NOQUERY DL1: .DIR DL1: 0 Files, 0 Blocks 10172 Free blocks . ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
