Re: [Simh] RSX-11 M Plus version to try

2019-06-22 Thread Will Senn

On 6/22/19 9:07 PM, Mark Matlock wrote:

Mark,

Will,
I didn’t record a log of the SYSGEN but when you do a SYSGEN it creates 
three saved answer files. SYSGEN will ask if you have them and with them you 
can recreate the process. If you tell it at the beginning you want a dry run 
and you can make your own log file.
Also you can just print the files and see all the options, CSR values and 
vectors that were entered for the peripherals.

The saved answer files are

DU:[200,200]SYSGENSA1.CMD
DU:[200,200]SYSGENSA2.CMD
DU:[200,200]SYSGENSA3.CMD

And they are on the disk you downloaded.


Cool. I'll give this a shot!


Will


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Re: [Simh] RSX-11 M Plus version to try

2019-06-22 Thread Will Senn
Supratim,

Thanks!

> On Jun 22, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Supratim Sanyal  wrote:
> 
> Will,
> 
> Mark’s (cc’d) distribution is another alternative. Quoting Mark:
> 
> wget http://rsx11m.com/PiDP11_DU0.zip
> 
> This is a RSX11M+ V4.6 sysgened for the PiDP-11/70 with most all the common 
> programming languages including APL, DTR, BP2 V2.7, F77, etc.

Greatness. I don’t suppose the actual sysgen procedure was captured / 
documented ?

> 
> wget http://rsx11m.com/PiDP11_DU1.zip
> 
> This is a 1.5 GB disk when upzipped that has all the RSX Sig tapes that are 
> available as .dsk files that can be accessed with VCP.

Wow. Once I have a clue how to find my way around the os. This’ll be great.

Will
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Re: [Simh] RSX-11 M Plus version to try

2019-06-22 Thread Supratim Sanyal
Will,

Mark’s (cc’d) distribution is another alternative. Quoting Mark:

wget http://rsx11m.com/PiDP11_DU0.zip

This is a RSX11M+ V4.6 sysgened for the PiDP-11/70 with most all the common 
programming languages including APL, DTR, BP2 V2.7, F77, etc.

wget http://rsx11m.com/PiDP11_DU1.zip

This is a 1.5 GB disk when upzipped that has all the RSX Sig tapes that are 
available as .dsk files that can be accessed with VCP.

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> On Jun 22, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Will Senn  wrote:
> 
>> On 6/22/19 4:50 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> You should definitely go with V4.6, which is the latest released version.
>> 
> Cool. I just read the pidp11 manual and it looks like Oscar's already done a 
> lot of the legwork for getting rsx up and running on the pi that is part of 
> the kit. So, since I'm eventually gonna solder that up, I'll just fire up the 
> pi and use the rsx distro he's using as a starting point.
> 
>> This is a complex question. There is the introduction to RSX manual. But it 
>> presents the system from a user point of view. If you want to understand how 
>> to manage the system, there aren't that many short howtos around. You should 
>> probably read the system managers manual. But that's a big manual to just 
>> plow through...
>> 
>> Check http://mim.update.uu.se/manuals/rsx
> 
> Thanks for the link.
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Re: [Simh] RSX-11 M Plus version to try

2019-06-22 Thread Will Senn

On 6/22/19 4:50 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:

You should definitely go with V4.6, which is the latest released version.

Cool. I just read the pidp11 manual and it looks like Oscar's already 
done a lot of the legwork for getting rsx up and running on the pi that 
is part of the kit. So, since I'm eventually gonna solder that up, I'll 
just fire up the pi and use the rsx distro he's using as a starting point.


This is a complex question. There is the introduction to RSX manual. 
But it presents the system from a user point of view. If you want to 
understand how to manage the system, there aren't that many short 
howtos around. You should probably read the system managers manual. 
But that's a big manual to just plow through...


Check http://mim.update.uu.se/manuals/rsx


Thanks for the link.

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Re: [Simh] RSX-11 M Plus version to try

2019-06-22 Thread Johnny Billquist

You should definitely go with V4.6, which is the latest released version.

To make some more specific comments...

On 2019-06-22 18:09, Will Senn wrote:

All,

I'm looking to try out something new and different on pdp11 (I've done 
my fair share of v6, v7, rt-11, and rsts and prolly a few others - y'all 
know this cuz about twice a year, I ask a slew of newb questions on the 
list). This year's exploration looks to be rsx-11 m plus... My questions 
are these:


1.  What version is available to run in simh that has the broadest 
selection of languages (asm, bas, pascal, fortran, etc)?


The available tools are pretty much the same no matter which version you 
run. But there are bug fixes and improvements in the OS itself which you 
might find useful. Of course, you also need to find and install all of 
those tools, which is a bit of work in itself.



2. What version runs Johnny's tcp/ip stuff best?


Any V4 should work, but I would really recommend 4.6, as there are 
bugfixes and improvements in the various releases which you want to 
have. And 4.6 just is the most fixed version.



3. What version has lots and lots and lost of documentation around?


Again, all of V4 have pretty much the same documentation. There are some 
updates and addenums in some manuals, but essentially the manuals apply 
to all V4.


Also, bonus question - do any of y'all have any great getting started 
guides or books or know where to find them?


This is a complex question. There is the introduction to RSX manual. But 
it presents the system from a user point of view. If you want to 
understand how to manage the system, there aren't that many short howtos 
around. You should probably read the system managers manual. But that's 
a big manual to just plow through...


Check http://mim.update.uu.se/manuals/rsx


My searching around has led me to think 4.6...


Good. :-)

  Johnny

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Re: [Simh] RSX-11 M Plus version to try

2019-06-22 Thread Phil Budne
Someday you should explore pre-DCL RSX, using MCR and myriad three
letter commands!  I still don't know/remember the difference between
ACT and ATL!!

phil
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[Simh] RSX-11 M Plus version to try

2019-06-22 Thread Will Senn

All,

I'm looking to try out something new and different on pdp11 (I've done 
my fair share of v6, v7, rt-11, and rsts and prolly a few others - y'all 
know this cuz about twice a year, I ask a slew of newb questions on the 
list). This year's exploration looks to be rsx-11 m plus... My questions 
are these:


1.  What version is available to run in simh that has the broadest 
selection of languages (asm, bas, pascal, fortran, etc)?


2. What version runs Johnny's tcp/ip stuff best?

3. What version has lots and lots and lost of documentation around?

Also, bonus question - do any of y'all have any great getting started 
guides or books or know where to find them?


My searching around has led me to think 4.6...

Regards,

Will


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