Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking

2019-08-12 Thread Kiss Gabor (Bitman)
> > At this moment there is only 27 members of pool.sks-keyservers.net.
> 
> JFR: The new negative record is 25...

21.

Gabor

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Re: [Sks-devel] The end of an Era

2019-08-12 Thread Skip Carter
On Mon, 2019-08-12 at 11:13 -0500, Daniel Roesler wrote:
> 
> There is no prominent alternative for _decentralized_ public key
> sharing. Keybase is centralized, as is keys.openpgp.org. I would
> argue that there must be a good decentralized alternative before
> shutting down this pool.\\

I agree that it is important that there be a decentralized key sharing
service.  Given the fragility of sks and the apparent lack of
developers willing to take up the task of fixing its problems, I have
been thinking about re-implement it.  This is a spare-time effort that
has so far been confined to reverse engineering experiments and tests. 
Has anybody else started down this path ?  Maybe we could collaborate
and a new sks could rise from the ashes of the old. 



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Re: [Sks-devel] The end of an Era

2019-08-12 Thread Philihp Busby

I am turning off pgp.philihp.com until further notice. With hourly reboots, it 
still had 68% uptime in the last 24 hours, 89% in the last 7 days.

With no apparent developer traction on SKS development to fix its problems, I 
agree that we should ring the death knell. Our community isn't known for 
quickly changing, and continuing to support an outdated alternative doesn't 
help this.

Also: the SKS HKPS is pool is also centralized.

On 2019-08-12T16:13:14Z (11:13AM -0500) Daniel Roesler  sed:

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I strongly disagree that the pool should be shutdown. As long as
there are people willing to operate servers, I think the pool
should be available to join.

There is no prominent alternative for _decentralized_ public key
sharing. Keybase is centralized, as is keys.openpgp.org. I would
argue that there must be a good decentralized alternative before
shutting down this pool.

That being said, my server is currently down due to the issues
with Issue #61[1], but I would love to rejoin whenever it is
fixed or when I find the time to write my own compatible server.
So I understand that I am just talking, rather than acting to
solve the issues currently. I just hope the pool hangs on until
I (or someone else equally motivated) can tackle the existing
issues with the keyservers in the pool.

Daniel

[1]: https://bitbucket.org/skskeyserver/sks-keyserver/issues/61

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On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 7:21 AM  wrote:


I think this is a good time to bring up the subject of finally shutting down 
the keyservers.

The pool is now incredibly small, with people dropping out at an increasing 
rate.

This would be a good time for Kristian to end the pool.
Kristians keyserver has also dropped out with nothing more left than a 502 
error.

Time to put this mess to bed and gently smother it with a pillow!

Appreciate any comments.

yakamo

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Re: [Sks-devel] The end of an Era

2019-08-12 Thread Daniel Roesler
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I strongly disagree that the pool should be shutdown. As long as
there are people willing to operate servers, I think the pool
should be available to join.

There is no prominent alternative for _decentralized_ public key
sharing. Keybase is centralized, as is keys.openpgp.org. I would
argue that there must be a good decentralized alternative before
shutting down this pool.

That being said, my server is currently down due to the issues
with Issue #61[1], but I would love to rejoin whenever it is
fixed or when I find the time to write my own compatible server.
So I understand that I am just talking, rather than acting to
solve the issues currently. I just hope the pool hangs on until
I (or someone else equally motivated) can tackle the existing
issues with the keyservers in the pool.

Daniel

[1]: https://bitbucket.org/skskeyserver/sks-keyserver/issues/61

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On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 7:21 AM  wrote:
>
> I think this is a good time to bring up the subject of finally shutting down 
> the keyservers.
>
> The pool is now incredibly small, with people dropping out at an increasing 
> rate.
>
> This would be a good time for Kristian to end the pool.
> Kristians keyserver has also dropped out with nothing more left than a 502 
> error.
>
> Time to put this mess to bed and gently smother it with a pillow!
>
> Appreciate any comments.
>
> yakamo
>
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[Sks-devel] The end of an Era

2019-08-12 Thread stuff
I think this is a good time to bring up the subject of finally shutting down 
the keyservers.

The pool is now incredibly small, with people dropping out at an increasing 
rate.

This would be a good time for Kristian to end the pool.
Kristians keyserver has also dropped out with nothing more left than a 502 
error.

Time to put this mess to bed and gently smother it with a pillow!

Appreciate any comments.

yakamo

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