Re: [slf4j-user] Release of SLF4J version 2.0.9

2023-09-05 Thread Erik van Oosten via slf4j-user

Hi Ceki,

Since startup time is a pretty important for services running in a cloud 
environment, can you say more about roughly how much time could be won 
by this feature? Just an order of magnitude would be great.


Kind regards,
    Erik.


Op 03-09-2023 om 18:49 schreef Ceki Gülcü via slf4j-user:
Moreover, the "slf4j.provider" system property bypasses the service 
loader mechanism for finding providers and may shorten SLF4J 
initialization.


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Re: [slf4j-user] SLF4J library using an image

2011-08-15 Thread Erik van Oosten

Hello Ceki,

I've added some color and removed the adaption layer from the 'unbound' 
case. What do you think?


http://no-commons-logging.zapto.org/concrete-bindings-eoo.odg
http://no-commons-logging.zapto.org/concrete-bindings-eoo.png

I think that displaying these stacks horizontally would improve the 
presentation somewhat more. It emphasizes what a mess you have when you 
include commons-logging in the mix :)


Regards,
 Erik.


Op 14-08-11 22:56, Ceki Gülcü schreef:

Hi all,

I've updated the illustrations taking into account your comments. The
updated files are located at:

  http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.odg
  http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.png

  http://slf4j.org/images/legacy.odg
  http://slf4j.org/images/legacy.png


The audience for these illustrations are users with little or no prior
understanding of or exposure to SLF4J. More concretely, with the help
of these illustrations, new users should hopefully stop placing
multiple binding artifacts on the class path at the same time.

IMO, the arrows convey useful information with respect to direction of
invocations albeit perhaps in a stylistically inelegant way.

Anyway, your suggestions for further improvements most welcome. In
particular regarding the unification of the stacked and arrowed styles
(if possible).

Cheers,


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Re: [slf4j-user] SLF4J library using an image

2011-08-14 Thread Erik van Oosten

Small correction: the 'original' version is David's (jakartaman).

For the rest I agree.

Regards,
Erik.


Op 14-08-11 13:35, Thorsten Möller schreef:

Am 13.08.2011 um 22:17 schrieb jakartaman:


Now someone needs to take a decision!!11!!

Well, just my opinion: both make sense to me. Erik's original version clearly 
and tersely describes the (gradual) transition from a logging framework other 
than SLF4J up to the point where just SLF4J backed by Logback is used. And I 
presume depicting this transition was Erik's intention.

Ceki's version appeared more comprehensive to me in depicting all the 
combinations in which SLF4J can be deployed. Honestly, however, I was 
interrupted a bit by the arrows since their semantics is not intuitive and was 
also not explained in the legend. To me they are not really necessary and I 
would prefer the typical layered way of depicting it using vertically stacked 
boxes.

To conclude, both are reasonable to the projects documentation, just at different places: 
Erik's could be used for supporting one way (the preferred way?) of (gradually) moving 
from another logging framework to pure SLF4J logging; Ceki's could be used to 
support all the different deployment combinations.

Thorsten





:-)

On 08/13/2011 10:51 AM, Rusty Wright wrote:

I definitely like http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.png

Straightforward and clear.

On 2011-08-12 12:32, Ceki Gülcü wrote:

I've taken yet another crack at this:

http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.odg
http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.png

http://slf4j.org/images/legacy.odg
http://slf4j.org/images/legacy.png

The idea is to illustrate concrete binding setups using lots of arrows. :-)

On 12/08/2011 9:04 AM, Erik van Oosten wrote:

Hi David,

I liked the clearness of your images as the result of using no arrows
and different colors for each function. I did have troubles with the
text, the font size is a tad small for me.

The second image does not show that commons-logging attempts to find a
logging implementation such as log4j, nor that is specially wired in the
classpath of many servlet containers. Not sure how to do visualize that
though.

Regards,
Erik.



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Re: [slf4j-user] Typos and error on project web page

2010-08-28 Thread Erik van Oosten

Why is that better? In *all* java code a backslash is represented by \\.

Regards,
Erik.


Op 27-08-10 23:50, Ceki Gülcü schreef:


Thanks David.

On 27/08/2010 11:01 PM, David Balažic wrote:

Hi!

On page http://www.slf4j.org/faq.html#logging_performance
It says:
Note that within Java code, the backslash cracacter needs to be 
written as '\\'.


Better:
Note that within Java strings, the backslash character needs to be 
written as '\\'.



On http://www.slf4j.org/manual.html :
For example, the slf4j-log12-1.6.1.jar binding is bound at compile 
time to use log4j.


It should be slf4j-log4j12-1.6.1.jar , I guess.


Regards,
David Balažic


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