Re: [slf4j-user] Release of SLF4J version 2.0.9
Hi Ceki, Since startup time is a pretty important for services running in a cloud environment, can you say more about roughly how much time could be won by this feature? Just an order of magnitude would be great. Kind regards, Erik. Op 03-09-2023 om 18:49 schreef Ceki Gülcü via slf4j-user: Moreover, the "slf4j.provider" system property bypasses the service loader mechanism for finding providers and may shorten SLF4J initialization. -- Erik van Oosten e.vanoos...@grons.nl https://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com ___ slf4j-user mailing list slf4j-user@qos.ch https://mailman.qos.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/slf4j-user
Re: [slf4j-user] SLF4J library using an image
Hello Ceki, I've added some color and removed the adaption layer from the 'unbound' case. What do you think? http://no-commons-logging.zapto.org/concrete-bindings-eoo.odg http://no-commons-logging.zapto.org/concrete-bindings-eoo.png I think that displaying these stacks horizontally would improve the presentation somewhat more. It emphasizes what a mess you have when you include commons-logging in the mix :) Regards, Erik. Op 14-08-11 22:56, Ceki Gülcü schreef: Hi all, I've updated the illustrations taking into account your comments. The updated files are located at: http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.odg http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.png http://slf4j.org/images/legacy.odg http://slf4j.org/images/legacy.png The audience for these illustrations are users with little or no prior understanding of or exposure to SLF4J. More concretely, with the help of these illustrations, new users should hopefully stop placing multiple binding artifacts on the class path at the same time. IMO, the arrows convey useful information with respect to direction of invocations albeit perhaps in a stylistically inelegant way. Anyway, your suggestions for further improvements most welcome. In particular regarding the unification of the stacked and arrowed styles (if possible). Cheers, ___ slf4j-user mailing list slf4j-user@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/slf4j-user
Re: [slf4j-user] SLF4J library using an image
Small correction: the 'original' version is David's (jakartaman). For the rest I agree. Regards, Erik. Op 14-08-11 13:35, Thorsten Möller schreef: Am 13.08.2011 um 22:17 schrieb jakartaman: Now someone needs to take a decision!!11!! Well, just my opinion: both make sense to me. Erik's original version clearly and tersely describes the (gradual) transition from a logging framework other than SLF4J up to the point where just SLF4J backed by Logback is used. And I presume depicting this transition was Erik's intention. Ceki's version appeared more comprehensive to me in depicting all the combinations in which SLF4J can be deployed. Honestly, however, I was interrupted a bit by the arrows since their semantics is not intuitive and was also not explained in the legend. To me they are not really necessary and I would prefer the typical layered way of depicting it using vertically stacked boxes. To conclude, both are reasonable to the projects documentation, just at different places: Erik's could be used for supporting one way (the preferred way?) of (gradually) moving from another logging framework to pure SLF4J logging; Ceki's could be used to support all the different deployment combinations. Thorsten :-) On 08/13/2011 10:51 AM, Rusty Wright wrote: I definitely like http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.png Straightforward and clear. On 2011-08-12 12:32, Ceki Gülcü wrote: I've taken yet another crack at this: http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.odg http://slf4j.org/images/concrete-bindings.png http://slf4j.org/images/legacy.odg http://slf4j.org/images/legacy.png The idea is to illustrate concrete binding setups using lots of arrows. :-) On 12/08/2011 9:04 AM, Erik van Oosten wrote: Hi David, I liked the clearness of your images as the result of using no arrows and different colors for each function. I did have troubles with the text, the font size is a tad small for me. The second image does not show that commons-logging attempts to find a logging implementation such as log4j, nor that is specially wired in the classpath of many servlet containers. Not sure how to do visualize that though. Regards, Erik. ___ slf4j-user mailing list slf4j-user@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/slf4j-user ___ slf4j-user mailing list slf4j-user@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/slf4j-user ___ slf4j-user mailing list slf4j-user@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/slf4j-user -- Erik van Oosten http://www.day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ ___ slf4j-user mailing list slf4j-user@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/slf4j-user
Re: [slf4j-user] Typos and error on project web page
Why is that better? In *all* java code a backslash is represented by \\. Regards, Erik. Op 27-08-10 23:50, Ceki Gülcü schreef: Thanks David. On 27/08/2010 11:01 PM, David Balažic wrote: Hi! On page http://www.slf4j.org/faq.html#logging_performance It says: Note that within Java code, the backslash cracacter needs to be written as '\\'. Better: Note that within Java strings, the backslash character needs to be written as '\\'. On http://www.slf4j.org/manual.html : For example, the slf4j-log12-1.6.1.jar binding is bound at compile time to use log4j. It should be slf4j-log4j12-1.6.1.jar , I guess. Regards, David Balažic ___ slf4j-user mailing list slf4j-user@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/slf4j-user -- Erik van Oosten http://www.day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ ___ slf4j-user mailing list slf4j-user@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/slf4j-user