Re: [SLUG] Program delivery with Sendmail

[Jobst Schmalenbach]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 04:24:44PM +1100, Peter Rundle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Does anyone have any good urls to on-line docs on program delivery using
> sendmail. www.sendmail.org is terrible.

not this one though, it has a lot of good answers to the main probs:

  http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/

You will find your answer to your problem (and other which will come up)
on that site.


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Re: [SLUG] Program delivery with Sendmail

[Peter Rundle]

> go into your /etc/sendmail.cf and change the execution line for programs to:
> 
> Mprog,  P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/,
 
thanks, George 

That did the trick :-) 

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RE: [SLUG] Program delivery with Sendmail

[Howard Lowndes]

Not a good idea.  It opens up too many security holes.  Better to alter
the program path to use smrsh properly.

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, George Vieira wrote:

> go into your /etc/sendmail.cf and change the execution line for programs to:
> 
> Mprog,  P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/,
> 
> thanks,
> George Vieira
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Rundle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SLUG] Program delivery with Sendmail
> 
> 
> Does anyone have any good urls to on-line docs on program delivery using
> sendmail. www.sendmail.org is terrible.
> 
> I've put an entry in the /etc/aliases file 
> 
>   user: "|/bin/myprog" 
> 
> but I always get an error mailed back to root, the guts of which is,
> 
>  - Transcript of session follows -
>   sh: myprog not available for sendmail programs
>   554 "|/bin/myprog"... Service unavailable
> 
> The program exists and is executable for all (ok maybe not a good idea
> but lets get it working first ;-)
> 
> So what gives?
> 
> Pete
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Program delivery with Sendmail

[Howard Lowndes]

You will probably find that sendmail is using smrsh instead of sh to run
that prog.  smrsh has some severe restrictions on pathing.

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Peter Rundle wrote:

> Does anyone have any good urls to on-line docs on program delivery using
> sendmail. www.sendmail.org is terrible.
> 
> I've put an entry in the /etc/aliases file 
> 
>   user: "|/bin/myprog" 
> 
> but I always get an error mailed back to root, the guts of which is,
> 
>  - Transcript of session follows -
>   sh: myprog not available for sendmail programs
>   554 "|/bin/myprog"... Service unavailable
> 
> The program exists and is executable for all (ok maybe not a good idea
> but lets get it working first ;-)
> 
> So what gives?
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
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[SLUG] sendmail list

[Kevin Waterson]

I can see a few news groups for sendmail
on sendmail.org but cannot see a mailing list
Is there one available?

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RE: [SLUG] Program delivery with Sendmail

[George Vieira]

go into your /etc/sendmail.cf and change the execution line for programs to:

Mprog,  P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/,

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-Original Message-
From: Peter Rundle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Program delivery with Sendmail


Does anyone have any good urls to on-line docs on program delivery using
sendmail. www.sendmail.org is terrible.

I've put an entry in the /etc/aliases file 

  user: "|/bin/myprog" 

but I always get an error mailed back to root, the guts of which is,

 - Transcript of session follows -
  sh: myprog not available for sendmail programs
  554 "|/bin/myprog"... Service unavailable

The program exists and is executable for all (ok maybe not a good idea
but lets get it working first ;-)

So what gives?

Pete


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Re: [SLUG] Program delivery with Sendmail

[John Ferlito]

Are you using FEATURE(`smrsh') this means sendmail uses it's
special restricted sheel which puts limits on what it's allowed to do.
Basically it only lets you run programs that live in /usr/lib/sm.bin. ie
for what you've used below it would ignore the path and run
/usr/lib/sm.bin/myprog. Then again it could be something else entirely
since it does say sh:

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 04:24:44PM +1100, Peter Rundle wrote:
> Does anyone have any good urls to on-line docs on program delivery using
> sendmail. www.sendmail.org is terrible.
> 
> I've put an entry in the /etc/aliases file 
> 
>   user: "|/bin/myprog" 
> 
> but I always get an error mailed back to root, the guts of which is,
> 
>  - Transcript of session follows -
>   sh: myprog not available for sendmail programs
>   554 "|/bin/myprog"... Service unavailable
> 
> The program exists and is executable for all (ok maybe not a good idea
> but lets get it working first ;-)
> 
> So what gives?
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
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[SLUG] Program delivery with Sendmail

[Peter Rundle]

Does anyone have any good urls to on-line docs on program delivery using
sendmail. www.sendmail.org is terrible.

I've put an entry in the /etc/aliases file 

  user: "|/bin/myprog" 

but I always get an error mailed back to root, the guts of which is,

 - Transcript of session follows -
  sh: myprog not available for sendmail programs
  554 "|/bin/myprog"... Service unavailable

The program exists and is executable for all (ok maybe not a good idea
but lets get it working first ;-)

So what gives?

Pete


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Re: [SLUG] Re: lpr error

[Graeme Merrall]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 03:56:41PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote:
> some of the files in your spool directory aren't writable by lp.lp
> 
> i'd feel better if they were, try:
> 
> chown -R lp.lp /var/spool/lpd/lp
> 
> (make sure you get the .seq file too - i don't know what that one's
> for.. a job number?)]

Bottom burp, that didn't work either. Ah well, back to apsfilter I think.

Thanks anyway. When apsfilter annoys me again, I might follow the printing
HOWTO and look for problems.

Cheers,
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RE: [SLUG] backup using rsync and file permission

[Jill Rowling]

You probably want to duplicate /etc/shells as well (unless you never
experiment with new shells!)
It's responsible for such details as what shell you get if you ftp in.

Cheers,

Jill.

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Ian Ward wrote:
> 
  As
> administrator, you will need to keep UID/GID consistent between the two
> systems.

Is it possible to copy the passwd, shadow and group files from one
system and have them work another?  

I just tried it here and it worked fine but are there any
not-immediately-obvious problems with doing this?  


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[SLUG] Re: lpr error

[Angus Lees]

some of the files in your spool directory aren't writable by lp.lp

i'd feel better if they were, try:

chown -R lp.lp /var/spool/lpd/lp

(make sure you get the .seq file too - i don't know what that one's
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RE: [SLUG] xterm - confused (8-(

[Jill Rowling]

I just grabbed the Wyse 60 manual that was hanging round here.
You can set a Wyse 60 into "VT100 Personality" mode by entering the
sequence:
ESC ~ ;

You can also reset the terminal to initial state with:
ESC c

It might be easier to get the terminal to emulate VT100 than to stuff around
with term types.

Regards,

Jill.
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Re: [SLUG] Star Office and Printing.

[Howard Lowndes]

Not many.

Have a look at $HOME/Office51/xp3/Xpdefaults  That is where the printer
defaults sit, there may be a clue in there.  Otherwise I'm fresh out.

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Michael Still wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> 
> > There is a routine that is part of SO called spadmin that does the printer
> > definitions.  Its in the same directory as the office executable, but I
> > think you have to be root to get it to alter the definitions.
> 
> I've never been able to get this to work. I can get it to print out the
> sample pages from within spadmin, but when I try to print real documents
> they silently fail...
> 
> The printers are setup correctly via lpd because I can print from anywhere
> else.
> 
> Any further hints?
> 
> Ta,
> Mikal
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Star Office and Printing.

[Michael Still]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote:

> There is a routine that is part of SO called spadmin that does the printer
> definitions.  Its in the same directory as the office executable, but I
> think you have to be root to get it to alter the definitions.

I've never been able to get this to work. I can get it to print out the
sample pages from within spadmin, but when I try to print real documents
they silently fail...

The printers are setup correctly via lpd because I can print from anywhere
else.

Any further hints?

Ta,
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Re: [SLUG] Star Office and Printing.

[Howard Lowndes]

There is a routine that is part of SO called spadmin that does the printer
definitions.  Its in the same directory as the office executable, but I
think you have to be root to get it to alter the definitions.

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Sonam Chauhan wrote:

> Hello:
> 
> I've had miserable time trying to get Star Office to print. 
> Every other application prints fine. I can even print to file 
> in Star Office and do a 'lpr ' and it prints fine. 
> 
> Printing directly doesn't work though. Does anyone have any tips? 
> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> Sonam
> 
> PS: My /etc/printcap 
> --
> ##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE ljet4 300x300 a4 {} LaserJet4 Default 1
> lp:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> :mx#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=n0-it1-laser.in.ce.com.au:\
> :rp=:\
> :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:
> ##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 300x300 a4 {} PostScript Default 1
> lp0:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\
> :mx#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=n0-itqms.in.ce.com.au:\
> :rp=PASSTHRU:\
> :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp0/filter: 
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Re: [SLUG] Perl and on the fly caculations

[John Ferlito]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 02:55:36PM +1100, John Clarke wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 02:40:58PM +1100, John Ferlito wrote:
> $format = "png";
> print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->$format();

yep it does work what I was actually doing was

print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->$db_env{'format'}();

which works if I use

$format = $db_env{'format'};
print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->$format();'

instead.

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Re: [SLUG] backup using rsync and file permission

[Colin Humphreys]

change their shell to something like /bin/false

Ricky C wrote:
> 
> >   As
> > > administrator, you will need to keep UID/GID consistent between the two
> > > systems.
> >
> >Is it possible to copy the passwd, shadow and group files from one
> >system and have them work another?
> 
> I have exactly the same setup, and along the same line... what if you don't
> want to give access to users on this backup machine ?? can you just copy the
> /etc/passwd and preserve uid and gid, but leave the shadow out so users
> can't logon ??
> 
> Cheers
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[SLUG] Star Office and Printing.

[Sonam Chauhan]

Hello:

I've had miserable time trying to get Star Office to print. 
Every other application prints fine. I can even print to file 
in Star Office and do a 'lpr ' and it prints fine. 

Printing directly doesn't work though. Does anyone have any tips? 

Thanks and Regards,
Sonam

PS: My /etc/printcap 
--
##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE ljet4 300x300 a4 {} LaserJet4 Default 1
lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:rm=n0-it1-laser.in.ce.com.au:\
:rp=:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:
##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 300x300 a4 {} PostScript Default 1
lp0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:rm=n0-itqms.in.ce.com.au:\
:rp=PASSTHRU:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp0/filter: 
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Re: [SLUG] Perl and on the fly caculations

[John Clarke]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 02:40:58PM +1100, John Ferlito wrote:

>   I'm assuming asking perl questions isn't OT :)

Not unless you're asking about Perl on Windoze :-)

> what I want to be able to do is the equivelant of this
> 
> $format = "png";
> 
> print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->$format;
> 
> that of course doesn't work. 

Programming Perl 2nd ed p297 has this to say on the subject:

Sometimes you want to call a method when you don't know the
method name ahead of time.  You can use the arrow form, replacing
the method name with a simple scalar variable (not an expression
or indexed aggregate) containing a method name:

$method = $fast ? "findfirst" : "findbest";
$fred->$method(@args);

so you *should* be able to do what you want.  The only real difference I can
see between the example and your code is the argument list, so try adding an
empty list, like this:

$format = "png";
print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->$format();


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[SLUG] Perl and on the fly caculations

[John Ferlito]

I'm assuming asking perl questions isn't OT :)

I'm using the GD modules in which you can do the following

print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->gif;
print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->png;
print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->gd;
print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->gd2;

what I want to be able to do is the equivelant of this

$format = "png";

print IMG $my_graph->plot(\@data)->$format;

that of course doesn't work. Is there a way to do it or do I just have
to put each option in an ifelse?

I'm thinking it's perl so there must be a way.

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Re: [SLUG] backup using rsync and file permission

[Ricky C]

>   As
> > administrator, you will need to keep UID/GID consistent between the two
> > systems.
>
>Is it possible to copy the passwd, shadow and group files from one
>system and have them work another?

I have exactly the same setup, and along the same line... what if you don't 
want to give access to users on this backup machine ?? can you just copy the 
/etc/passwd and preserve uid and gid, but leave the shadow out so users 
can't logon ??

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Re: [SLUG] xterm - confused (8-(

[Andrew Reilly]

Hi Howard,

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 01:25:46PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> I am totally confused wrt xterm after ploughing thru the doco.

I think that's because you're looking for something that isn't
there.

> I need an X capable terminal emulator that will emulate a Wyse 60
> especially wrt the function keys etc.

That's not "xterm", and I'm afraid that I don't know of such a
beastie, although it shouldn't be TOO hard to make one, given
that most of the actual functionality is already there in xterm.

> I have looked at man xterm and it says it emulates VT100/VT220.

Yup.  These two became the basis for the ANSI standard for
terminal codes, and that pretty much blew away most of the old
vendor-specific code sequences, of which Wyse-60 was one.

> I have looked at /etc/termcap and can see a key mapping in there for Wyse
> 60

That's so that you can use vi and other curses applications when
talking to the system through a real, physical Wyse-60 terminal,
over a serial line.

> What I can't work out is how to get xterm to map the keys as per the Wyse
> 60.  Am I looking in the wrong forest or just barking up the wrong tree?

Wrong tree, I'm afraid.  You're looking for either a
specifically Wyse terminal emulator, or some sort of generic,
mappable terminal emulator.  Xterm (and almost all of the
other terminal programs I know of, besides tn3270) is a
VT102/VT220/ANSI terminal emulator (with screen-size extensions,
missing some character glyphs, and missing the double-wide,
double-high text attributes).

What application is Wyse-60 specific?  Can't you tell it to talk
to an ANSI terminal?

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Re: [SLUG] lpr error

[Graeme Merrall]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 08:22:29PM +1100, Graeme Merrall wrote:
> > Does the spool directory exist?
> > 
> 
> Oh yeah spose I should have mentiomed that :)
> There is a /var/spool/lpd/lp directory with various files in it
> drwxr-xr-x2 lp   lp   4096 Oct 19 14:16 .
> drwxrwsr-x4 lp   lp   4096 Oct 19 14:15 ..
> -rw-rx1 root lp  4 Oct 19 14:16 .seq
> -rw-r--r--1 lp   lp190 Oct 19 14:15 general.cfg
> -rw-r--r--1 root root   18 Oct 19 14:16 lock
> -rw-r--r--1 lp   lp342 Oct 19 14:15 postscript.cfg
> -rw-rw-r--1 root root   25 Oct 19 14:16 status
> -rw-r--r--1 lp   lp148 Oct 19 14:15 textonly.cfg

Apologies to Gus, I accidentally deleted his message, in answer to his
question about my printcap.
lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:if=/usr/share/printtool/master-filter:

so it all looks reasonably normal. 

Very odd. Might try  a diff printer setup program or try manually. I find
apsfilter a bit annoying the way it sets up all those different printers.

Cheers,
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RE: [SLUG] Routing with two Ethernet cards

[George Vieira]

they all need gateway addesses to the machine with 2 nics.

you don't need ipchains though...

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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Routing with two Ethernet cards


I worked out what the problem was - the machines on the other network had
no idea of how to get back to the originating address.

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Re: [SLUG] Routing with two Ethernet cards

[Marshall, Joshua]

I worked out what the problem was - the machines on the other network had
no idea of how to get back to the originating address.

Regards,
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Re: [SLUG] Routing with two Ethernet cards

[DaZZa]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Marshall, Joshua wrote:

> I have two ethernet cards in my firewall, one on 10.0.5.x network and
> one on 10.10.10.x network. I have set the routes like this:
> 
> 10.10.10.0 >> eth0
> 10.0.5.0 >> eth1
> 
> I have set ipchains to allow forwarding between the two, by doing:
> 
> ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d 10.0.0.0/8 -j ACCEPT
> 
> The input and output chains are similar.
> 
> >From the firewall I can ping hosts on both networks, but I can't ping
> through the firewall, ie from one network to the other.
> 
> Does anyone know what I've overlooked?

For starters, _why_ are you using IPCHAINS? This is simple routing - you
don't need chains, you simply enable routing between the two networks, and
assign routes appropriately.

DaZZa



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Re: [SLUG] Routing with two Ethernet cards

[Howard Lowndes]

Check /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward  It should have the value of 1  If not
then echo 1 to it.

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Marshall, Joshua wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have two ethernet cards in my firewall, one on 10.0.5.x network and
> one on 10.10.10.x network. I have set the routes like this:
> 
> 10.10.10.0 >> eth0
> 10.0.5.0 >> eth1
> 
> I have set ipchains to allow forwarding between the two, by doing:
> 
> ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d 10.0.0.0/8 -j ACCEPT
> 
> The input and output chains are similar.
> 
> >From the firewall I can ping hosts on both networks, but I can't ping
> through the firewall, ie from one network to the other.
> 
> Does anyone know what I've overlooked?
> 
> Cheers,
> Josh Marshall.
> 
> 
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RE: [SLUG] Routing with two Ethernet cards

[John Wiltshire]

From: Marshall, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>Hi,
>
>I have two ethernet cards in my firewall, one on 10.0.5.x network and
>one on 10.10.10.x network. I have set the routes like this:
>
>10.10.10.0 >> eth0
>10.0.5.0 >> eth1
>
>I have set ipchains to allow forwarding between the two, by doing:
>
>ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d 10.0.0.0/8 -j ACCEPT
>
>The input and output chains are similar.
>
>From the firewall I can ping hosts on both networks, but I can't ping
>through the firewall, ie from one network to the other.
>
>Does anyone know what I've overlooked?

Do you have IP Forwarding turned on in the kernel?
What are the netmasks of eth0 and eth1?

John Wiltshire


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[SLUG] New Link (typo in last)

[DebbieLewis]

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So You Need To Act Fast If You Don't Want To Miss Out!! **

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[SLUG] Routing with two Ethernet cards

[Marshall, Joshua]

Hi,

I have two ethernet cards in my firewall, one on 10.0.5.x network and
one on 10.10.10.x network. I have set the routes like this:

10.10.10.0 >> eth0
10.0.5.0 >> eth1

I have set ipchains to allow forwarding between the two, by doing:

ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d 10.0.0.0/8 -j ACCEPT

The input and output chains are similar.

>From the firewall I can ping hosts on both networks, but I can't ping
through the firewall, ie from one network to the other.

Does anyone know what I've overlooked?

Cheers,
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[SLUG] xterm - confused (8-(

[Howard Lowndes]

I am totally confused wrt xterm after ploughing thru the doco.

I need an X capable terminal emulator that will emulate a Wyse 60
especially wrt the function keys etc.

I have looked at man xterm and it says it emulates VT100/VT220.
I have looked at /etc/termcap and can see a key mapping in there for Wyse
60

What I can't work out is how to get xterm to map the keys as per the Wyse
60.  Am I looking in the wrong forest or just barking up the wrong tree?

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Re: [SLUG] backup using rsync and file permission

[DaZZa]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Doug Stalker wrote:

> Is it possible to copy the passwd, shadow and group files from one
> system and have them work another?  
> 
> I just tried it here and it worked fine but are there any
> not-immediately-obvious problems with doing this?  This system is
> running as a backup for another server, and I can duplicate the contents
> of the home directories without problems (I'll install rsync later
> today, tar -> ftp -> untar is rather inefficient ) but I obviously need
> to duplicate the user details as well.  

Biggest problem is overwriting your existing UID's and GID's.

If you already have files on the secondary system which are owned by UID
650, and your replaced passwd files don't _have_ a UID 650, then you'll
have some holes in your file system as far as ownerships etc go.

But if you're running a complete duplicate down to user files, then there
shouldn't be any problems.

DAZZa



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Re: [SLUG] backup using rsync and file permission

[Doug Stalker]

Ian Ward wrote:
> 
  As
> administrator, you will need to keep UID/GID consistent between the two
> systems.

Is it possible to copy the passwd, shadow and group files from one
system and have them work another?  

I just tried it here and it worked fine but are there any
not-immediately-obvious problems with doing this?  This system is
running as a backup for another server, and I can duplicate the contents
of the home directories without problems (I'll install rsync later
today, tar -> ftp -> untar is rather inefficient ) but I obviously need
to duplicate the user details as well.  

 - Doug




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Re: [SLUG] Re: Another Debian newbie

[John Ferlito]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 12:09:47PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote:
> \begin{Steven downing}
> > After doing a nice clean install of potato last night, I now have to
> > come to grips with the 'Debian way of doing things' - like setting
> > up a sound card and a nic, etc.  So is there some tool like the one
> > in the install that let you choose what modules load with the
> > kernel.
> 
> its called modconf(8)
> 
> all modconf does is add modules to /etc/modules and possible add
> module options in /etc/modules.conf (by adding a file to
> /etc/modutils/)
> 
> modules listed in /etc/modules are explicitly loaded at boot time, so
> you only need to list the "dubious" modules, like sound card and
> network card. filesystems, etc will autoload fine by themselves.
> (alternatively you can add lines to /etc/modules.conf like:
>   alias eth0 ne2k-pci
>  and they will autoload too)

That would not be the debian way gus :) Next time update-modules
gets run by some package you'll lose the entry. I think your just
supposed to create a new file in /etc/modutils eg create a file called
localaliases with
alias eth0 ne2k-pci
alias sound-slot-0 sb

assuming you have an sb card.


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[SLUG] JOB: Development of a National Karst Index Database using open-source.

[Michael Lake]

Hi All,

This is to let those of you who are interested in developing
Linux applications and using open-source that I have just
uploaded the tender document for the development of a
National Karst Index Database for the Australian
Speleological Federation. You can find it at:

http://www.caves.org.au/tenders/

The ASF is Australias national body for caving and
speleology. The current web site is at
http://rubens.its.unimelb.edu.au/~pgm/asf/ but is in the
process of moving to http//www.caves.org.au
(hosted by Yourweb http://yourweb.com.au/ in Sydney and
running Linux). The ASF is a member of the International
Union of Speleology
(http://rubens.its.unimelb.edu.au/~pgm/uis/index.html) who
have been developing, through their Informatics Commission,
comprehensive standards for cave related databases. This
web-based proposal will be the first web-based
implementation of these standards.

You can email me privately for any further information so we
don't clutter up the SLUG list with a JOB thread. Please
pass this on to any one else that might be interested.

Thanks.
Mike
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[SLUG] Re: Another Debian newbie

[Steven downing]

>>> Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20/10/00 12:09:47 >>>
>> My other prob is whatever window manager I run, the cursor is a
>> large block of junk, about a cm square of random black and white
>> pixels.  Anyone got any tips on this?

>sounds like a problem with your X server. which funky, latest
>whizzbang graphics card do you have?

Good old cirrus logic pci 5440 circa '95 which has worked under redhat,suse,mulinux.  
Runs under the SVGA server. (Xfree 3.whatever)
(unforunately i can't apt-get xfree 4 off the net just yet)

Everything else comes up looking good, I just thought it might be some kind of special 
debian cursor graphic which was bad.  Or more to the point, is there a file/place 
where the screen cursor comes from.



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Re: [SLUG] Pearls

[Jeff Waugh]

> Some thoughts:
> 
> * a rotating roster ? People nominate themselves for a slot.


To do an entire Pearls? They were scared away a few months ago - I can't see
what's changed. :)


> sub thought : the system of email query -> response, response,
> response -> further comment, comment, comment is sort of like
> an outline document or threaded document anyway. Perhaps the
> original poster ought to take on the responsibility of 
> summarising responses?


That I would *love* to see happen. Very cool, but I just don't think people
have the time, nor interest in doing it.


> If you do a few queries on google, you can sometimes find
> the slug pearls coming up. They are _so_ much better than a
> raw mail archive.


Aye, and I've received a fair few "Where have you gone, are you dead?"
emails too. :D

Zack got bored with the Debian and Samba Kernel Cousins a while back, and
started documenting a group-authored method. Anyone can choose a thread and
summarise it (as long as no one has posted to it for three days), and it
will be added to the final publication. A release manager deals with how
much is enough, and when each one should be published.

The tools are still a little clunky, but they work.

I hadn't got around to convincing myself that people wanted to be involved,
but then Rodos and Thom popped up and offered to help out. Looks like we can
finally bring Pearls back - without ruining anyone's weekends! ;)

- Jeff


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[SLUG] Re: Another Debian newbie

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Steven downing}
> After doing a nice clean install of potato last night, I now have to
> come to grips with the 'Debian way of doing things' - like setting
> up a sound card and a nic, etc.  So is there some tool like the one
> in the install that let you choose what modules load with the
> kernel.

its called modconf(8)

all modconf does is add modules to /etc/modules and possible add
module options in /etc/modules.conf (by adding a file to
/etc/modutils/)

modules listed in /etc/modules are explicitly loaded at boot time, so
you only need to list the "dubious" modules, like sound card and
network card. filesystems, etc will autoload fine by themselves.
(alternatively you can add lines to /etc/modules.conf like:
  alias eth0 ne2k-pci
 and they will autoload too)

> My other prob is whatever window manager I run, the cursor is a
> large block of junk, about a cm square of random black and white
> pixels.  Anyone got any tips on this?

sounds like a problem with your X server. which funky, latest
whizzbang graphics card do you have?

> The debian newbie guide 'task-debian-newbie' is ok for Linux
> beginners, but is there something (web based, whatever) which is
> more a guide to the 'Debian way of things'?

everyone should read the debian FAQ. its in /usr/doc/debian/FAQ/

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RE: SLUG bandwidth was: [SLUG] Html Email Format part 2

[Jill Rowling]

Looks like a sunspot cycle.
It reflects the thought activity of a selection of the population, moderated
by day/night and weekends. Fun.

Regards,

Jill.
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, 20 October 2000 4:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SLUG bandwidth was: [SLUG] Html Email Format part 2


In case you are interested,

http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/mrtg/slug.progsoc.uts.edu.au.html>

We have only been doing this for the week or so, which is what the
uptime reflects.



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Re: [SLUG] backup using rsync and file permission

[Andrew Reilly]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 10:10:43AM +1000, Rodos wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Ian Ward wrote:
> 
> > As administrator, you will need to keep UID/GID consistent between the
> > two systems.
> 
> Okay this is the bit I want to know more about. What are the ways of doing
> this? Copy the files over? What about shadow passwords? Is their a right
> way to do it when you have a few machines and need to share files around
> between them. What do people here do?

This is why Yellow Pages aka NIS, or HESIOD, or (more latterly)
some other sort of distributed database, go hand in hand with
NFS, and why you generally only use NFS within a single
administrative domain, rather than over WAN connections.

> I have lots of accounts on one machine that supports dialin users but only
> a few common ones on the others, I don't necessarily want them all on the
> other machines. 

Not sure how you arrange that, but I'd bet that there's a way.
Things like PAM can often cascade requests, so if a uid lookup
fails in yp, then it could go and look in /etc/passwd, which (on
the dial-up box only) would contain the other users.  Something
like that.

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[SLUG] [LINK] gospel of tux

[marty]

someone hinted that linux isn't an OS, but a religion...

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/10/19/1555251&threshold=3&commentsort=0&mode=nested&cid=71

later
marty

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because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam



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[SLUG] Redhat v6.2, Samba and 2 LPT ports

[Adrian]

Hi Slugs

I have a small and painful problem.  It all started when I installed a
second lpt port in my Redhat/Samba/Firewall.

I set the second card up as lpt2 (lp1 or "hpdj400") and put it in the
machine.  The existing lpt port should (in theory) stay as lpt1 (lp0 or
"lexmark")

When I print to "lexmark" or "hpdj400", it all goes to "hpdj400"

How can I get the machine to recognise and route the print queues correctly?



(Remember I am running SAMBA and to the best of my knowledge, all shares are
setup correctly)



I have attach all the file I think are relevant.

Regards
Adrian

 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Phone:  +61 (0)4 0720 8910
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 conf.modules
 printcap
 smb.conf

[SLUG] Font size under Gnome on RH 6.2

[David S Brooks]

Can someone please tell me how to set the font size under Gnome? Also in
Netscape newsgroups?
David Brooks



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Re: [SLUG] backup using rsync and file permission

[Rodos]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Ian Ward wrote:

> As administrator, you will need to keep UID/GID consistent between the
> two systems.

Okay this is the bit I want to know more about. What are the ways of doing
this? Copy the files over? What about shadow passwords? Is their a right
way to do it when you have a few machines and need to share files around
between them. What do people here do?

I have lots of accounts on one machine that supports dialin users but only
a few common ones on the others, I don't necessarily want them all on the
other machines. 

/me notes to spend some time reviewing file permissions on the boxen.

Rodos



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Re: [SLUG] Pearls

[Rodos]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Jamie Honan wrote:

> * a rotating roster ? People nominate themselves for a slot.
> 
> * a 'views' system : people can make pearls anytime, overlapping
> others, dropping out with too much pressure, taking up only
> those things that interest them. Maybe even a cvs type system.

The KT software now supports (correct me if I am wrong Jeff) the concept
of claiming a topic/thread so having a "group authored" approach. 

They use this for the debian lists I think. If you want to claim a thread
for summary you send a mail to a special address. Once your summary is
written you send it to the editor of that KC. The summaries have to be
formatted into the XML I guess, otherwise the editor will have to do it
all.

I don't think the SLUG list is big enough or that there will be enough
people willing to sumarise to start that processes yet. If people want to
summarise something they can just tell the editor. Once there were a few
people doing it you could start the thread claiming.

I am working on ways to make it easier to generate the Pearl by hacking
MHonArc to generate some of the tedious XML generation required etc.

I am discussion this on the kcdevel mailing list which I think is
appropriate. I suggest people join for a while whist we sort out the SLUG
issue (I seam to be talking to myself ;-) ). Or we can discuss it on the
SLUG list as well, but I did not think low level stuff was needed here.

Keep pondering everyone.

Rodos



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[SLUG] Another Debian newbie

[Steven downing]

After doing a nice clean install of potato last night, I now have to come to grips 
with the 'Debian way of doing things' - like setting up a sound card and a nic, etc.  
So is there some tool like the one in the install that let you choose what modules 
load with the kernel.  It was 12am and I just wanted to get the basics up and running.
I did get a few packages groaning at install time too, but running dselect then 
checking for unconfigured packages didn't find anything.
My other prob is whatever window manager I run, the cursor is a large block of junk, 
about a cm square of random black and white pixels.  Anyone got any tips on this?
The debian newbie guide 'task-debian-newbie' is ok for Linux beginners, but is there 
something (web based, whatever) which is more a guide to the 'Debian way of things'?

many thanks all
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Re: [SLUG] backup using rsync and file permission

[Ian Ward]

Just an extra to Scotts post

UNIX keeps UID/GID as numbers.

It is polite for ls to go and look in /etc/passwd and /etc/group and replace
the numbers with the text for us humans.  You can see this by doing a
"ls -aln".  This can be a problem when you copy them to another system (NFS
has this problem too).  Unless the username/group coressponds to the same
number, files magically belong to someone else after copying.  As
administrator, you will need to keep UID/GID consistent between the two
systems.

Also, try using the --delete switch on rsync if you are intending to keep an
exact mirror.  The --delete switch will delete the files on the target if
they have been deleted on the source.

I use "rsync -avz --delete sourcehost:directory/ directory" to do a suck
mirror

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Re: [SLUG] Set UID programs

[Dean Hamstead]

An option (not so much for init, but for users running aps
as root etc) is sudo

A nice app brought to us from openbsd i believe, and much needed.

Dean

Scott Howard wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 10:53:05AM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote:
> > What method do people prefer when wanting a program to run as a particular
> > user?
> > Examples:
> >   At startup time, in init.d I might want to run a script as user
> > "blah"
> 
> At startup you should _always_ use su.  There is no reason to use setuid
> and it's just likely to introduce security holes.
> 
> >   Or I want to run a program as user "blah" where "blah" has less
> > privileges than my normal user account.
> 
> The problem with using setuid for programs which aren't built for it is
> that you often introduce security holes of some form.
> 
> > (Thinks of easily broken things like X and Netscape, hehe)
> 
> eg, if you setuid Netscape, then it's going to be fairly trivial for
> someone else to get access to that account - simply because Netscape isn't
> written to be setuid.
> If you must use setuid, try and use some method to make sure that nobody
> who doesn't need to can run the program. eg, if you're on a single user
> home machine there might be no need to do anything, otherwise you might
> need to play with groups to make it so that only certain people can run
> that binary.
> 
> > Which is preferable?
> > Are there other ways of doing it?
> 
> Of course, this is Unix so there's always other ways to do it :)
> 
> One way that springs to mind is sudo.  This will give you some flexability
> on what can be run, who can run them, and what is needed in the way of
> passwords (eg, password of the user running it, password of the user you're
> going to run the program as, no password, etc).
> 
> As a rule, setuid is evil and should be avoided at all cost.
> 
> On a sort of aside here, lots of people running Unix boxes at home
> (particularly with a single user) do things the "wrong" (note the quotes!)
> way, with the excuse that it doesn't matter on such a small setup.
> 
> If you've got any intention of ever using your home experience for any
> further good, be that commercially, for charity, or ever just helping a
> friend I'd really suggest you try and do things one of the "right" ways.
> Good habits are good to learn early, and bad habits are hard to get out
> of. Using setuid might work fine on your single box at home, but it's
> just not going to cut it in a commercial environment.
> 
>   Scott.
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[SLUG] RTF Readers

[Alan L Tyree]

Yes, WP can stuff up some RTF files - there doesn't seem to be any
reliable standard.

Also have a look at AbiWord - it is relatively light and seems to do a
reasonably good job of both RTF and .doc files.

Nothing works all the time though.

Alan

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[SLUG] GnuCash

[Alan L Tyree]

I have been using GnuCash set up using split transactions, a GST
Liability account and a GST Asset account.

It works (in a sense) but:

   - split transactions are a damned nuisance;

   - the reports don't match the BAS requirements.

I'm in the process of redefining accounts so that (hopefully) the
Profit & Loss report will generate the required BAS entries. I'll let
you know, but I'm beginning to agree with Terry that a simple spread
sheet might do as well unless you are really a grown up business.

Cheers,
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[SLUG] Re: lpr error

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Graeme Merrall}
> I was tooling round with my printers in Debian and used printool to set up a
> printer which is there fine and printing ASCII direct to /dev/lp0 works just
> fine. Printing via lpr gives an error of "No spool file found" which is
> dutifully printed out.

what does the printcap entry look like?
(in particular, the "sd" entry)


> A Goggle search revealed nothing of use at all so if anyone has a clue on
> how to solve this I'd be most grateful.

pity, goggles can be most useful when debugging the really nasty lpd
problems ;)

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[SLUG] Pearls

[Jamie Honan]

Some thoughts:

* a rotating roster ? People nominate themselves for a slot.

* a 'views' system : people can make pearls anytime, overlapping
others, dropping out with too much pressure, taking up only
those things that interest them. Maybe even a cvs type system.

sub thought : the system of email query -> response, response,
response -> further comment, comment, comment is sort of like
an outline document or threaded document anyway. Perhaps the
original poster ought to take on the responsibility of 
summarising responses?

* moderation ? - some of the suggestions like for kuro5hin ?

If you do a few queries on google, you can sometimes find
the slug pearls coming up. They are _so_ much better than a
raw mail archive.

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[SLUG] Samba - veto files directive

[Subba Rao]

Hi,

I have used the "veto files" flags for my users home directory shares.
The syntax is as follows,

veto files = /.*/

This is to hide all the dot files in the samba client.
I stoped and restarted samba and sure enough the dot files do not get listed.

One problem that has showed up is, when I try to save a file from the samba
client (windows system) to the samba server, I get the "Error Copying File" 
message box,

"Cannot copy xyz:A file with the name you specified already exists. Specify
a different filename"

This happens to any file that I am trying to move to the samba server.

I have already tried "hide dot files" directive and that does not hide the
files.

Is there any other directive that should be used along with "veto files" 
directive?

Thanks in advance.

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SLUG bandwidth was: [SLUG] Html Email Format part 2

[Anand Kumria]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 11:59:37AM +1100, John Clarke wrote:
> 
> Stop thinking of yourself and think of those that host the mailing list.  Isn't
> it just good manners to minimise the cost to them?  IIRC (from a message on
> this list ages ago), before the list moved to the new servers, the traffic was
> enough to saturate a 128K ISDN link, and they don't come cheap.  I have no idea
> how much bandwidth it uses now, but it's likely to be more rather than less.

In case you are interested,

http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/mrtg/slug.progsoc.uts.edu.au.html>

We have only been doing this for the week or so, which is what the
uptime reflects.

Regards,
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Re: [SLUG] HTML Email format part 3

[Anand Kumria]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 12:08:43PM +1100, DaZZa wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Alister Waller wrote:
> 
> > Now, in regard to bandwith. Why do some people send the same email to me as
> > they send to the list, i read the list??? surely that is creating bandwith??
> 
> Because people are too lazy to edit the headers when they hit "reply to
> all".

Well that is one reason. The other reason is that the sender is often too lazy
to specify (via Reply-To) where exactly they want the response sent back.

Setting Reply-To on your own posts means that those who respond and are
lazy need not do anything but reply. This works on the premise that
modifying your behaviour is simpler than modifying the behavious of 400+
list subscribers.

Regards,
Anand

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Re: [SLUG] PPP under RH6.2 - Rec on HOWTO

[marty]

> Tried the PPP dialer under gnome, which is just WvDial and it either
> failed to connect or couldn't find modem. Found /etc/wvdial.conf, which
> explained where all the crud in the setup was coming from, but ran out
> of time, so we've booked another session to explore it.

have you run wvdialconf ??

> tail /var/log/messages is great for anyone trying to workout what is
> happening with ppp when setting up.

especially with the the -f switch, you can watch it as it happens...

later
marty

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Re: [SLUG] Set UID programs

[Scott Howard]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 10:53:05AM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote:
> What method do people prefer when wanting a program to run as a particular
> user?
> Examples:
>   At startup time, in init.d I might want to run a script as user
> "blah"

At startup you should _always_ use su.  There is no reason to use setuid
and it's just likely to introduce security holes.

>   Or I want to run a program as user "blah" where "blah" has less
> privileges than my normal user account.

The problem with using setuid for programs which aren't built for it is
that you often introduce security holes of some form.

> (Thinks of easily broken things like X and Netscape, hehe)

eg, if you setuid Netscape, then it's going to be fairly trivial for
someone else to get access to that account - simply because Netscape isn't
written to be setuid.
If you must use setuid, try and use some method to make sure that nobody
who doesn't need to can run the program. eg, if you're on a single user
home machine there might be no need to do anything, otherwise you might
need to play with groups to make it so that only certain people can run
that binary.

> Which is preferable?
> Are there other ways of doing it?

Of course, this is Unix so there's always other ways to do it :)

One way that springs to mind is sudo.  This will give you some flexability
on what can be run, who can run them, and what is needed in the way of
passwords (eg, password of the user running it, password of the user you're
going to run the program as, no password, etc).

As a rule, setuid is evil and should be avoided at all cost.

On a sort of aside here, lots of people running Unix boxes at home
(particularly with a single user) do things the "wrong" (note the quotes!)
way, with the excuse that it doesn't matter on such a small setup.

If you've got any intention of ever using your home experience for any
further good, be that commercially, for charity, or ever just helping a
friend I'd really suggest you try and do things one of the "right" ways.
Good habits are good to learn early, and bad habits are hard to get out
of. Using setuid might work fine on your single box at home, but it's
just not going to cut it in a commercial environment.

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Re: [SLUG] backup using rsync and file permission

[Scott Howard]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 12:38:24AM +, Ricky C wrote:
> hi All,
> 
> I have just started playing with rsync and in need of some guidance.
> 
> rsync (version 2.4.6) was installed on the "server", and version 2.4.1 on 
> the "client"
> 
> On the server side, directories are shared using path such as below

[...]

> rsync -avz Old_Server::folder_1 /backup/folder_1
> 
> Everything seems to work fine, all permission bits are kept, however the UID 
> and GID comes up as numbers. Does the 2 machines require the the same 
> /etc/passwd file, and its shadow ??

By default rsync will give the new files the same username/group as on the
source. If that username/group doesn't exist, it will give them the same
UID/GID as on the source. (Unless you use --numeric-ids, which will always
give them the same UID/GID).  Check that the users in question exist on the
destination system.

> What is the best way to manage this ??
> Also, is there any way to rsync the whole file system ?? so I don't have to 
> set 20 different paths in the rsyncd.conf.

There's a few different ways to use rsync.
The mode you're using is more normally what you'd use to run a public rsync
server (think in terms of a web server, where anyone can access the files).
This is the type of thing mirror.aarnet.edu.au provides, for example.

If you have full access between machines (either rsh or ssh), then you can
get rsync to work in more of an rcp-style mode. Just setup .rhosts/.shosts
permissions between machines (or certs, or whatever for ssh) and use
a command something like :

rsync -avz Old_Server:/folder_1 /backup/folder_1

Note that the two colons have become one, and the source path has become
a fully qualified path.  In this mode there's no need to run an rsync server
at all on the remote machine, you just need to have rsync in the path on
that machine (or use the --rsync-path option).

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Re: [SLUG] AOL Instant Messenger

[Jon Biddell]

I'm beginning to get the feeling that some of you think I should
have looked at freshmeat before asking this ?...:-)

Sorry, you are quite correct - I should have looked first.

Unfortunately, the droids in our IT department use AIM to
communicate between offices - god knows, we have Notes running all
day, and that should be enough...

Bloody Windows users...:-(

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[SLUG] OT? Packet filtering etc.

[Ken Caldwell]

Hi,

I originally posted this about 1:40 this afternoon but it seems to have
gone astray.  Apologies if it appears twice.

Can ICMP packets pose a security risk? (See the attached text files for
the context)

TIA

Ken

Prologue
On Tuesday evening I purchased an airline ticket from Virgin Blue over
the internet.  The home page and the screen where you enter your
selection came up fairly quickly but after entering my requirements
there was a _long_ delay before I was presented with a list of available
flights.  After making my seletction entering credit card details etc.
there was an extremely long delay (over 10 minutes) before the flight
was confirmed.  (The previous screen warns you not to touch any keys for
45 seconds while your booking is being confirmed).  The confirmation
screen never did get rendered completely but it contained the lines
"While no other documentation is necessary,you are able to print this
screen as confirmation of your booking with Virgin Blue"
When I printed the screen I saw the following message at the top of the
page which had not been rendered on screen
"This service makes use of Javascript, which appears to be turned off.
Click here to learn how to operate it"
In fact Javascript was turned on but I believe it can be a problem with
Netscape 4.7x.

The packet filtering bit
On checking the logs on Wednesday I noticed a flood of packets denied
corresponding to the time that I was buying the ticket.  I was unable to
find out who 202.139.120.234 is using nslookup, traceroute revealed
nothing and I was unable to ping the machine.  On rechecking the logs I
found entries suggesting that I was filtering my own pings.

Attached is a file containing 1) excerpts from /var/log/messages 2) the
script used to set up the packet filter and 3) the output from ipchains
-L.

As there is a rule to accept ICMP packets why were these packets denied?

Why would they have been sent in the first place?  I am assuming that
202.139.120.234 has something to do with Virgin Blue but is this so?

Ken


This file contains excerpts from /var/log/messages
The entries from Oct 17 21:45:03 to 22:32:08 correspond to the time that I was trying 
to book a ticket with Virgin Blue.
The entries dated Oct 18 correspond to when I was trying to traceroute 202.139.120.234 
having failed to find it using nslookup and being unable to ping it.

Oct 17 21:45:03 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=55853 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:45:03 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=55854 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:45:05 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=55855 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:45:23 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=55856 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:45:45 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=55857 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:46:28 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=55858 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:47:53 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=30035 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:49:53 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=18973 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:51:53 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=7871 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:53:53 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=62365 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:55:53 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=51253 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:57:53 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=40171 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 21:59:53 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=29089 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 22:01:53 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=18007 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 22:03:53 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=6925 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 22:03:55 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=6926 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 22:03:55 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=6927 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 22:03:56 linux kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 202.139.120.234:11 
203.164.9.230:0 L=112 S=0x00 I=6928 F=0x4000 T=248 (#10)
Oct 17 22:03:57 linux kernel: Packet log: inpu

Re: [SLUG] AOL Instant Messenger

[Thom May]

GAIM - http://freshmeat.net/projects/gaim/homepage/
Everybuddy - http://freshmeat.net/projects/everybuddy/homepage/
And I believe Jabber supports the AIM protocol too - 
http://freshmeat.net/projects/gabber/homepage/
Those are just the highpoints, but as someone said early, rtf-fm
;-)
-Thom
At some point around Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 09:58:43 +1100, Jon Biddell said:
> Does anyone know if there is a version of this or a compatable
> probram available for Linux ?
> 
>  --=20
> Regards,
> 
> Jon
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Re: [SLUG] AOL Instant Messenger

[Arunava Sen]

Jon Biddell wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is a version of this or a compatable
> probram available for Linux ?

Yeah... GAIM (a nice gtk one). I never used it but you hear talk about
it on slashdot everyonce in a while so i went to the page to look at the
screenshots. :)

URL: http://www.marko.net/gaim/

theres some other ones as well. look on www.freshmeat.net

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[SLUG] AOL Instant Messenger

[Jon Biddell]

Does anyone know if there is a version of this or a compatable
probram available for Linux ?

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Re: [SLUG] Removing Dirs in CVS

[Malcolm Tredinnick]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 07:38:59PM +1100, Adrian van den Dries wrote:
> Don't delete the directory! You:
> 
> (make sure  is empty, apart from the CVS dir)
> cvs rm 
> cvs commit
> cvs update -P 
> 
> and the directory should be gone.

For the lazy sods amongst us (me, me, me!), it is worth knowing about
~/.cvsrc as well. This is a file that is read to get options that are
applied to each cvs command every time you execute that command. For
example, my one looks like:

cvs -q
update -P -d
diff -u

(indented for readability ... left justified in real life).

This means, always use the -q (quiet) option for any cvs command, use -P
(prune empty directories) and -d (get any new directories) when running
an update and pass -u (unified diff format) to the diff command.

The second line, in particular, means that you never have to worry about
empty directories again. :)

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Re: [SLUG] lpr error

[Graeme Merrall]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 08:12:02PM +1100, tom burkart wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Graeme Merrall wrote:
> 
> > fine. Printing via lpr gives an error of "No spool file found" which is
> > dutifully printed out.
> Does the spool directory exist?
> 

Oh yeah spose I should have mentiomed that :)
There is a /var/spool/lpd/lp directory with various files in it
drwxr-xr-x2 lp   lp   4096 Oct 19 14:16 .
drwxrwsr-x4 lp   lp   4096 Oct 19 14:15 ..
-rw-rx1 root lp  4 Oct 19 14:16 .seq
-rw-r--r--1 lp   lp190 Oct 19 14:15 general.cfg
-rw-r--r--1 root root   18 Oct 19 14:16 lock
-rw-r--r--1 lp   lp342 Oct 19 14:15 postscript.cfg
-rw-rw-r--1 root root   25 Oct 19 14:16 status
-rw-r--r--1 lp   lp148 Oct 19 14:15 textonly.cfg

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Re: [SLUG] Removing Dirs in CVS

[Dean Hamstead]

Thats what i meant
thanks!

Dean

Adrian van den Dries wrote:
> 
> Dean,
> 
> Don't delete the directory! You:
> 
> (make sure  is empty, apart from the CVS dir)
> cvs rm 
> cvs commit
> cvs update -P
> 
> and the directory should be gone.
> 
> Wrote Dean:
> > How does one remove a directory in a cvs repository?
> >
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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail connection problems

[tom burkart]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Des Wass wrote:

> Anyone have any idea what could be causeing this?
It looks from the logs like there is either a routing or a firewalling
issue.

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Re: [SLUG] RE: Damn sendmail.mc and m4

[tom burkart]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:

> > define(`SMARTHOST', esmtp:)dnl
> Shouldn't that be SMART_HOST?
I got it from the sendmail book.

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Re: [SLUG] Removing Dirs in CVS

[Adrian van den Dries]

Dean,

Don't delete the directory! You:

(make sure  is empty, apart from the CVS dir)
cvs rm 
cvs commit
cvs update -P 

and the directory should be gone.

Wrote Dean:
> How does one remove a directory in a cvs repository?
> 
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[SLUG] Removing Dirs in CVS

[Dean Hamstead]

How does one remove a directory in a cvs repository?

Dean
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Re: [SLUG] Html Email Format part 2

[Jason Rennie]

> Can I ask why people use non-html enabled mail clients?? What is the benefit
> of this? Is this a linux geeky type thing??

I use pine becasue it is fast, simple, works in a ssh session, and is
immune to all of the problems you get with spam and HTML mail, like web
bugs etc.

Jason



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Re: [SLUG] html email format

[Jason Rennie]

> A waste of bandwidth for no gain in content.  Some of us will simply delete
> HTML mail unread.
> 
> HTML formatting can more than double the size of a simple text message.  Send
> that as multipart/alternative and you send both text and html versions,
> tripling the size of your message.  Multiply that by the number of subscribers
> and the number of messages posted to this list daily, and you have an enormous
> amount of wasted bytes.

Also HTML mail just seems some how intrinsically evil.

Jason



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[SLUG] lpr error

[Graeme Merrall]

Well what a busy day it's been on the slug list, thought I'd add to the
general noise some :)

I don't really have time to troll through docs to figure this out so a quick
hand from fellow sluggers is always useful.
I was tooling round with my printers in Debian and used printool to set up a
printer which is there fine and printing ASCII direct to /dev/lp0 works just
fine. Printing via lpr gives an error of "No spool file found" which is
dutifully printed out.
A Goggle search revealed nothing of use at all so if anyone has a clue on
how to solve this I'd be most grateful.

Cheers,
 Graeme

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