Re: [SLUG] x , fractured

[Martin]

On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Alex Salmon wrote:

> hi all
> I just got a new vid card and while setting it up i seems to have half
> broken X. it is X 4.0.2 and everything works as root but as a user.   
> 
> salmona@vila:~$ startx
> 
> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
> giving up.
> xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
> salmona@vila:~$

The problem is almost certainly not the new video card, but rather that
you have recently upgraded Woody (with X4.0.2 that's REALLY
likely). There's a well known bug in Woody that breaks user based X
server use at the moment. You will probably find that the first line of
/etc/X11/Xwrapper.config says allowed_users=root_only or some such,
change it to allowed_users=console, and your problem should be
fixed. Also, for future reference, it's bad for to say "my new vid card
broke X" and not tell us any salient facts, like what card it is... I
almost didn't bother to reply.

cheers,

Martin



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Re: [SLUG] Security-enhanced Linux available at NSA site (fwd)

[Ken Yap]

>(before anyone gets too worried, there are already 42 network drivers
>in the main kernel tree owned by the NSA :-)

You don't have NSA and NASA (former employer of Donald Becker) confused
do you?



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[SLUG] x , fractured

[Alex Salmon]

hi all
I just got a new vid card and while setting it up i seems to have half
broken X. it is X 4.0.2 and everything works as root but as a user. 

salmona@vila:~$ startx

X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
salmona@vila:~$

im sure i have just forgotten to add myself to a group or something as 
simple but i cant for the life of me figure it out.

oh and btw there seems to be a problem with the web slug admin thing.
all my passowrds etc are accepted but i have to set mail delivery to off
to get mail and on to stop it.. Mabey it is just life playing lil games but who 
knows.. ;-)

thanks all and merry christmas
alex

   
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Re: [SLUG] upgrade 6.2 -> 7.0

[Harry Ohlsen]

>I did this last night to ensure I was up to date and it was a pain. Is there
>a file somewhere that tells you all the things that are going to break when
>this is done? Here are some of the things that broke:

It sounds like your experience was even worse than mine.  I upgraded one 
desktop box and all went well, as far as I could tell.  So, I upgraded my 
two laptop machines ... the one I carry around and an older one that I keep 
in the lounge room for surfing the net in ad breaks.  Of course, neither of 
those upgrades was anywhere near as easy.

The main issue I came across was that for some reason the upgrade didn't 
seem to take into account that I had separate /usr partitions on each of 
those machines, so it kept telling me I needed a heap more disk space on 
/.  I ended up having to do a brand new install ... without needing to 
repartition or change what items I wanted to have installed!  after 
backing up any precious data.  That was very, very annoying.

Overall, though, after getting the machines back up and running I'm fairly 
happy with 7.0.  For example, I can now use my USB mouse, which was 
probably possible with 6.2, except that it would have required patching and 
mucking around.

My systems tend to be pretty simple, because all I use them for is hacking 
code, so I never hit the apache, squid, pppd etc, problems you had.  I'd 
probably be totally bald by this point if I had :-).

Hope it all works out in the end.



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Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?

[Steve Kowalik]

On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 09:43:02AM +1100, Dave Kempe wrote:
> > mount /mnt/cdrom
> > > rpm -FUvh /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/*
> > > reboot
> > >
> > > (What the "F" does is "Only upgrade if the package is already
> > installed")
> > > You also find that rpm will take an __age__ to generate the
> > dependiences file.
> >
> > If he's at the point where forward compatibility for rpms was broken
> > this won't work, surely.
> 
> Surely they have fixed the upgrade option in the installer.
> I have never tried it but I'd swear there is an upgrade option in the
> installer for Redhat.
> Wouldn't that be the better way?
>
No!
All the "upgrade" option does is update the base, and install the standard RPMs over 
what you already have.
CVS Enlightenment running? Stiff! RH Upgrader runs right over it. :-(

> dave
> 
> 
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[SLUG] upgrade 6.2 -> 7.0

[Darrell Burkey]

> > You can upgrade RH6.2 to RH7.0 in a number of ways.
> > My preferred way (to do any upgrade) is to obtain a CD rom and run it
> > from the CDrom. You can either buy this (cetustech or everythinglinux)
> > or download the iso and burn a CD.

I did this last night to ensure I was up to date and it was a pain. Is there
a file somewhere that tells you all the things that are going to break when
this is done? Here are some of the things that broke:

Squid -
squid now has an additional parameter for cache_dir so it would not run
until I figured this out.

Apache -
httpd refuses to run because it can't find a module for php3 etc. I'd bet it
won't work with FrontPage any more either (as my previous version did)  but
I haven't had time to deal with that one yet.

pppd -
The pppd deamon required a slightly different syntax so I was offline for
quite a while. For some reason it could not obtain the local ip address
although I am supplying it from the command line. Removing the parameter
"auth" seemed to fix this.

NFS -
I thought I had this disabled but I'm still getting an error about "NFS
lockd" error 111 and portmap on startup that makes no sense to me so I'm off
to research that.

ip forwarding -
Stopped working which prevented a script I have for ipchains from running
properly in spite of having this listed in /etc/sysconfig/network. I've had
to switch this on by updating a file in the /proc directory.

All in all a very frustrating evening but something I've come to expect from
RedHat. I guess with the complexity of configurations this is to be expected
but I really wonder if such things couldn't be better detected by the
upgrade software or at least documented somewhere. [ this is where you point
me to the exact doco I missed :-) ]

Thanks for all the help you have provided over the years. The SLUG archive
is one of the best resources I have and I've learned heaps from it.

Cheers and happy holidays to all.

~~
Darrell Burkey @ Home
Canberra, ACT




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RE: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?

[Dave Kempe]

> mount /mnt/cdrom
> > rpm -FUvh /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/*
> > reboot
> >
> > (What the "F" does is "Only upgrade if the package is already
> installed")
> > You also find that rpm will take an __age__ to generate the
> dependiences file.
>
> If he's at the point where forward compatibility for rpms was broken
> this won't work, surely.

Surely they have fixed the upgrade option in the installer.
I have never tried it but I'd swear there is an upgrade option in the
installer for Redhat.
Wouldn't that be the better way?

dave



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Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?

[Howard Lowndes]

This is good news, but they seem to have lost track with their numbering.

I have "The Linux Pocketbook" which came with RH5.2, "The revised edition
Linux Pocketbook" which came with RH6.0 and OL2.2N, and "The revised
edition Linux Pocketbook" which came with RH6.1 and OL2.3, and is
different from the earlier "revised edition".

Never mind, they have got at least 1 guaranteed sale.  Well done APC.

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On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Ken Caldwell wrote:

> The 3rd edition of "The Linux Pocketbook" is out and can be found at
> some newsagents for $19.95.  It comes with CDs for RH7 and Mandrake 7.2



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Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?

[Ken Caldwell]

Terry Collins wrote:
> 
> "Adam F. Bogacki" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Terry,
> >
> > I'll give up on that one.
> 
> Because you didn't buy a boxed set, you don't have a product number to
> enter.
> 
> You can upgrade RH6.2 to RH7.0 in a number of ways.
> My preferred way (to do any upgrade) is to obtain a CD rom and run it
> from the CDrom. You can either buy this (cetustech or everythinglinux)
> or download the iso and burn a CD.
> 
> I've CC'd this to the Slug list so that others can tell you of their
> ways.
> 
The 3rd edition of "The Linux Pocketbook" is out and can be found at
some newsagents for $19.95.  It comes with CDs for RH7 and Mandrake 7.2

regards,

Ken


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Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?

[Howard Lowndes]

Slight correction
rpm -FUvh /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/*
the "U" is not necessary

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On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Steve Kowalik wrote:

> mount /mnt/cdrom
> rpm -FUvh /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/*
> reboot
>
> (What the "F" does is "Only upgrade if the package is already installed")
> You also find that rpm will take an __age__ to generate the dependiences file.



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Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?

[Martin]

On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Steve Kowalik wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 09:44:40PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:

> > You can upgrade RH6.2 to RH7.0 in a number of ways.
> > My preferred way (to do any upgrade) is to obtain a CD rom and run it
> > from the CDrom. You can either buy this (cetustech or everythinglinux)
> > or download the iso and burn a CD.
> >
> mount /mnt/cdrom
> rpm -FUvh /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/*
> reboot
> 
> (What the "F" does is "Only upgrade if the package is already installed")
> You also find that rpm will take an __age__ to generate the dependiences file.

If he's at the point where forward compatibility for rpms was broken
this won't work, surely.

cheers,

Martin



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Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?

[Steve Kowalik]

On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 09:44:40PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:
> "Adam F. Bogacki" wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks Terry,
> > 
> > I'll give up on that one.
> 
> Because you didn't buy a boxed set, you don't have a product number to
> enter.
> 
> You can upgrade RH6.2 to RH7.0 in a number of ways.
> My preferred way (to do any upgrade) is to obtain a CD rom and run it
> from the CDrom. You can either buy this (cetustech or everythinglinux)
> or download the iso and burn a CD.
>
mount /mnt/cdrom
rpm -FUvh /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/*
reboot

(What the "F" does is "Only upgrade if the package is already installed")
You also find that rpm will take an __age__ to generate the dependiences file.

> I've CC'd this to the Slug list so that others can tell you of their
> ways.
> 
Pah. I still prefer Debian. :-)

> Someone may be able to tell you of problems to watch out for. I think
> there was a problem in the gcc.
gcc in RH7 is FUBAR.
2.96 snapshot of the 3.0 devel tree. Silly morons.

>  Is there a relatively easy and painless way to
> > upgrade from RH6.2 to RH 7 ? I understood that could be done from
> > redhat.com, but first one had to register the product.
> 
> Also check the slug list archives at slug or here for this topic.
> 
> 
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Re: [SLUG] printing in Mandrake from Star Office 5.2

[Tom Massey]

Darrin Ritter wrote:

> The main problem is that when I set up the printer system in SO5.2 the
> printer says that it is printing and then dumps a file into the the
> var/spool/cups directory and that is all that happens

What happens if you try and print that file directly? Something like
'lpr filename' or maybe 'lpr-cups filename'? Is it correctly formatted,
but just not being sent to the printer, or is it messed up completely?

> I have been able to print out a test sheet from the mandrake printer
> setup and all the other applications print OK

If you've got that far it should be possible to get Star Office
printing.
Certainly people have managed to print from Star Office using CUPS.
Try going to  and searching for 'cups',
there's been quite a few articles about it recently. There's also some
useful info at . Also try asking on the
Mandrake
mailing lists  - asking on
the expert list is almost sure to get you a useful answer. You might
like
to try updating CUPS - there were a few bugs in the version released
with
7.2 that have since been fixed. Till Kamppeter puts out updates for CUPS
at
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Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?

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- Original Message -
From: Terry Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Adam F. Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Slug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?


> You can upgrade RH6.2 to RH7.0 in a number of ways.
> My preferred way (to do any upgrade) is to obtain a CD rom and run it
> from the CDrom. You can either buy this (cetustech or everythinglinux)
> or download the iso and burn a CD.
>
> I've CC'd this to the Slug list so that others can tell you of their
> ways.


I go out and buy a debian disc set and reinstall... ;)


>  Is there a relatively easy and painless way to
> > upgrade from RH6.2 to RH 7 ? I understood that could be done from
> > redhat.com, but first one had to register the product.
>
> Also check the slug list archives at slug or here for this topic.

The CD upgrade works fine - I've done this to two machines at work to date,
and the upgrade went flawlessly both times.

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Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?

[Terry Collins]

"Adam F. Bogacki" wrote:
> 
> Thanks Terry,
> 
> I'll give up on that one.

Because you didn't buy a boxed set, you don't have a product number to
enter.

You can upgrade RH6.2 to RH7.0 in a number of ways.
My preferred way (to do any upgrade) is to obtain a CD rom and run it
from the CDrom. You can either buy this (cetustech or everythinglinux)
or download the iso and burn a CD.

I've CC'd this to the Slug list so that others can tell you of their
ways.

Someone may be able to tell you of problems to watch out for. I think
there was a problem in the gcc.
 Is there a relatively easy and painless way to
> upgrade from RH6.2 to RH 7 ? I understood that could be done from
> redhat.com, but first one had to register the product.

Also check the slug list archives at slug or here for this topic.


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Re: [SLUG] Re: ADSL not working - Authentication problem

[Rebecca Richards]

Hi Martin,

On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Martin wrote:

> > I hate to be in a situation where Tel$tra charges flagfall for the
> > outbound connection, and not realising it until after my ADSL modem picks
> > up and drops the line a million times in a day.
> 
> Sorry, now i'm definately consfused... Telstra charges a flagfall per
> connection to adsl? I understood that the only cost was the monthly
> charge (for a home plan).

No, they dont, but I'm sure they're scheming about how they could do it.

You can never be too careful.

Cheers,
- RR



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