Re: [SLUG] SuSE Lays Off (Most) U.S. Staff

[Terry Collins]

Craige McWhirter wrote:
> 
> Some discussion:
> 
> http://slashdot.org/articles/01/02/07/2040225.shtml

As a general request, if you post a slashdot link, how about just
posting the article itself.
Attempting to read anything on slashdot is an utter waste of time.

> 
> This link appears to the most complete info:
> 
> http://www.linuxgram.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=109&aid=11712

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Re: [SLUG] [SLUG-Chat] Qantus lounge.

[Mike Holland]

They should provide IrDA ports. Changi airport in Singapore has it for
free. So while waiting for a connecting flight, you can dowload e-mail to
your palm-pilot or laptop. Or web-bowse etc.

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[SLUG] SuSE Lays Off (Most) U.S. Staff

[Craige McWhirter]

Some discussion:

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/02/07/2040225.shtml

This link appears to the most complete info:

http://www.linuxgram.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=109&aid=11712

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[SLUG] Progeny mirrors?

[Arunava Sen]

Hi,

A friend got a new system and had mandrake installed on it. finally,
talked him out of it now. I wanted to give Progeny a try on it. Anyone
know of any fast, aussie progeny mirrors? I was getting 2k off the main
site and I cant find any mirrors listed anywhere. If its that bad all
the time, then i might as well do a Debian install off aarnet (where I
normally get 490+ k).

Thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail - Spamming Problems

[Mike Holland]

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Marty wrote:

> > QUESTION: How can I do spam-filtering in sendmail when calling it from
> > 'fetchmail' ? Has anyone done this? Normal methods dont seem to work.
> 
> if your thinking about using maps/orbs/other blacklist it won't work...
> they rely on denying connections from certain hosts...

The mail will have "Received:" header lines. Any way to use those?

> your connections will be coming from fetchmail and hence 127.0.0.1
> 
> it is your isp or whoever is providing the pop box that needs to apply the
> filtering for it to work...

I can do filtering with procmail, but want to be able to get fetchmail to
bounce certain senders, or mailboxes. Whats the best way?
  Should I use procmail commands to generate bounces?

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Re: [SLUG] Re: New Debian Convert

[Craige McWhirter]

Ah, this was my first stumbling block:

"I just want to install everything like I did on Redhat!"

I promptly gave up in disgust. A month later Gus, Anand and Jeff
explained, gently, over a SLUG dinner why installing everything is
perhaps not the best approach. I've been using Linux for 5+ years now
but those old Windows hangovers were still in my brain. 

I tried again with "only what you need now" approach in my brain and I
was much happier with the result. Learning the different approach was
just as useful as learning Linux/Unix was.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:16:51 Marty wrote:
> > my general debian "install strategy" is to install as little as
> > possible first off, then install things as i realise i need
> > them. (compared to the common redhat strategy of installing
> everything
> > then removing things you don't need)
> 
> i think this is one of the "debian way" things i have to learn...
> 
> basically the mentality with redhat is "install everything" because
> otherwise resolving dependency problems is a PITA...
> 
> with dependency handling like debian, it makes sense to install as
> little
> as possible and put it on as needed... 
> 
> later
> marty
> 
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[SLUG] Debian @ LinuxExpo.au 2001

[Crossfire]

Righteo!

As promised, I have more details.

AES are running the LinuxExpo again this year, in conjunction with
IT2001 and Network+Interop.

I'm organising the Debian Stand for this expo, and I'm currently
calling for volunteers to man the stand.

The Expo itself will be occuring from the 7th to the 9th of March, and
if they run things like they did last year, we'll be setting up on the
6th, and packing up on the morning of the 10th.

If you can spare some time to help man the Debian stand at LinuxExpo
2001, please email me directly at this email address, stating roughly
what times you would be availible to man the stand on each day.

I should have even more details in a few days time - so if I don't
answer a question, its probably because I'm waiting for more
information ;)

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RE: [SLUG] problem about installing modem in redhat 6.2

[David Kempe]

Dear  all:

When after installing internal modem( conexant softk56 Data,Fax,RTAM PCI
Modem), I employ minicom to test, the procedure is listed followed:


I think you will find that that modem is a software modem that probably
won't work with linux.
It is merely an analog to digital converter and the modem bits are handled
in software. I don't know if this modem is supported under linux but
www.linmodem.org might. If not try www.google.com.


Hope that helps,


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Re: [SLUG] Re: New Debian Convert

[Marty]

> my general debian "install strategy" is to install as little as
> possible first off, then install things as i realise i need
> them. (compared to the common redhat strategy of installing everything
> then removing things you don't need)

i think this is one of the "debian way" things i have to learn...

basically the mentality with redhat is "install everything" because
otherwise resolving dependency problems is a PITA...

with dependency handling like debian, it makes sense to install as little
as possible and put it on as needed... 

later
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[SLUG] Re: New Debian Convert

[Angus Lees]

\begin{marty}
> i was a bit surprised by some of the junk that got installed... maybe i
> picked a few wrong options (using simple selection), but it just seemed to
> put some random packages on there as well...

yes, i've noticed that the tasks install some strange, extra stuff
and yet miss out on some standard stuff (like manpages..). i tend to
give systems a run through dselect (load up, go to "select", exit,
then install) just to suck in all the "standard" packages.

my general debian "install strategy" is to install as little as
possible first off, then install things as i realise i need
them. (compared to the common redhat strategy of installing everything
then removing things you don't need)

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Re: [SLUG] Formating a USB Floppy

[John Clarke]

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:48:08AM +0900, Antony Stace wrote:

> doesn't want to work

No, sorry, my fault.  fdformat does a low-level format, which I didn't
know (thanks Ken), mkdosfs just creates the filesystem.  I thought you
were just trying to create the filesystem.

fdformat only works on devices with a major number of 2.  You can't
simply delete this check and recompile the program, because the
format mechanism is different.

Standard floppy controllers format track-by-track, that is, they need
to be told to format each track in turn.  SCSI devices, however, have a
format command which formats the entire device at once.  IIRC, you need
to specify the device parameters in the format command.

I was thinking that it'd be fairly easy to write a SCSI format program,
but I needed some information to do so.  A quick google search turned
up this:

http://pantransit.reptiles.org/prog/archive/scsifmt.c

According to the comments, it's supposed to check that the device is
a Zip drive, but although there's code present to do that check, the
function is never called.  The only thing I'm not sure of is whether
it needs to be changed to pass tracks/sectors/heads/sector size in
the format command.  I don't have a SCSI floppy drive on which to
test it ...


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Re: [SLUG] Formating a USB Floppy

[Antony Stace]

doesn't want to work


[root@hawera /root]# mkfs.msdos /dev/sda
mkfs.msdos 2.2 (06 Jul 1999)
mkfs.msdos: Will not try to make filesystem on '/dev/sda'
[root@hawera /root]#


John Clarke wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:43:37AM +0900, Antony Stace wrote:
> 
> > Can someone please tell me how to format a disk in MSDOS format with a
> > USB floppy drive.  I am running Kondara MNU/Linux 2000 which has Kernel
> > 2.2.17-10k.
> > My computer recoginses the USB floppy as /dev/sda.  I cannot use the
> 
> mkdosfs /dev/sda
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
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Re: [SLUG] Formating a USB Floppy

[Martin]

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, DaZZa wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Antony Stace wrote:
>
> > Can someone please tell me how to format a disk in MSDOS format with a
> > USB floppy drive.  I am running Kondara MNU/Linux 2000 which has Kernel
> > 2.2.17-10k.
> > My computer recoginses the USB floppy as /dev/sda.  I cannot use the
> >
> > fdformat
> >
> > command since it only works on the devices /dev/fdXX.
>
> mkfs.msdos /dev/sda?
>
> DaZZa

Or why not make a fdXX type entry that's a symlink to /dev/sda, just as
/dev/cdrom is a symlink?

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Re: [SLUG] Formating a USB Floppy

[DaZZa]

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Antony Stace wrote:

> Can someone please tell me how to format a disk in MSDOS format with a
> USB floppy drive.  I am running Kondara MNU/Linux 2000 which has Kernel
> 2.2.17-10k.
> My computer recoginses the USB floppy as /dev/sda.  I cannot use the
> 
> fdformat
> 
> command since it only works on the devices /dev/fdXX. 

mkfs.msdos /dev/sda?

DaZZa


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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail - Spamming Problems

[Terry Collins]

Mike Holland wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Steven Kerr wrote:
> 
> > I have noticed over that last few days that some slime ball is using
> > our sendmail 8.9.3 mail server as a relay.
> 
> Unlikely ... 8.9.3 disables such relaying, unless you specifically enable
> it.
> 
> > Feb  7 10:15:13 gatekeeper sendmail[16323]: KAA16323:
> > from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=702, class=0, pri=30702, nrcpts=1,
> > msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
> > relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]

In that case, look at your firewall/etc. 
Some older stuff "relabels" messages as coming from the firewall, rather
than there original source, which defeats no-relay settings.

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Re: [SLUG] problem about installing modem in redhat 6.2

[Matthew Dalton]

> Huiyong Liu wrote:
> 
> When after installing internal modem( conexant softk56
> Data,Fax,RTAM PCI Modem)

It's a software modem (aka winmodem).

ie. it's not a modem at all - the cpu does all the hard work in software
instead.

It used to be impossible to use one of these under anything but Win9x.
Now some winmodem chipsets are supported under Linux. Look here for more
info: http://linmodems.org/

This page also has some good information:
http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html


IMHO though, you should think about getting yourself a real (preferrably
external so you know for sure) modem.


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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail - Spamming Problems

[Marty]

> QUESTION: How can I do spam-filtering in sendmail when calling it from
> 'fetchmail' ? Has anyone done this? Normal methods dont seem to work.

if your thinking about using maps/orbs/other blacklist it won't work...
they rely on denying connections from certain hosts...

your connections will be coming from fetchmail and hence 127.0.0.1

it is your isp or whoever is providing the pop box that needs to apply the
filtering for it to work...

later
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Re: [SLUG] problem about installing modem in redhat 6.2

[Ken Yap]

|When after installing internal modem( conexant softk56 Data,Fax,RTAM =
|PCI Modem), I employ minicom to test, the procedure is listed followed:

Sounds like a winmodem. Does the box say something like minimum system
requirements Pentium 100, Win3.1 or Win95, etc? If so no way.

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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail - Spamming Problems

[Mike Holland]

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Steven Kerr wrote:

> I have noticed over that last few days that some slime ball is using
> our sendmail 8.9.3 mail server as a relay.

Unlikely ... 8.9.3 disables such relaying, unless you specifically enable
it.
 
> Feb  7 10:15:13 gatekeeper sendmail[16323]: KAA16323:
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=702, class=0, pri=30702, nrcpts=1,
> msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
> relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]

That looks normal - it just describes incoming mail. Presumably spam sent
to your system. It doesnt mean its relaying back out.

Do you see any evidence of spam being forwarded back out by your system?


> So I assumed that the spammer is using the address 127.0.0.1

No, thats just means that localhost is receiving the mail.

> Question: What other configuration could I use to stop this spamming ?
 
See the sendmail docs, e.g.:
   http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti-spam.html


QUESTION: How can I do spam-filtering in sendmail when calling it from
'fetchmail' ? Has anyone done this? Normal methods dont seem to work.

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Re: [SLUG] problem about installing modem in redhat 6.2

[Crossfire]

Huiyong Liu was once rumoured to have said:
> When after installing internal modem( conexant softk56 Data,Fax,RTAM
> PCI Modem), I employ minicom to test, the procedure is listed
> followed:

This is a winmodem.  There is no complete support for this device yet.

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[SLUG] problem about installing modem in redhat 6.2

[Huiyong Liu]

Dear  all:
 
    When after installing 
internal modem( conexant softk56 Data,Fax,RTAM PCI Modem), I employ minicom to 
test, the procedure is listed followed:
 
1. # minicom -s
2. selected 'Serial Port Setup',
then firstly set my serial device to /dev/ttyS2 ( 
since the modem is internal, port number DOS's COM3 which is derived from 
information about modem in  windows control panel).
secondly,configured option E Baud/Par/Bits to 
115200 8N1.
3.after hitting 'return', selected ' Save Setup as 
df1' then selected  Exit.
 
However, i did not see an OK 
prompt.
when debugging, in windows98 setting,I found 
that the modem port is COM3, I/O address is 3e8,however the Interrupt  
is 0 which is different from the common configuration, 
 
  DOS Name Linux 
device 
files  
IRQ   I/O address
COM1  /dev/ttyS0, 
/dev/cua0    
4    
0x3f8
COM2 
/dev/ttyS1, 
/dev/cua1    
3    
0x2f8
COM3 
/dev/ttyS2, 
/dev/cua2     
4    
0x3e8
COM4    
/dev/ttyS3 , 
/dev/cua3    
3    
0x2e8
 
( table 15.1 ,Master Linux , Arman 
Danesh)
 
 
by now, i have no idea which cause the modem 
installation failure, please give me some some clues and advices on 
it.
 
thanks for your assistance!
 
yours faithfully
 
young

Re: [SLUG] Formating a USB Floppy

[John Clarke]

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:43:37AM +0900, Antony Stace wrote:

> Can someone please tell me how to format a disk in MSDOS format with a
> USB floppy drive.  I am running Kondara MNU/Linux 2000 which has Kernel
> 2.2.17-10k.
> My computer recoginses the USB floppy as /dev/sda.  I cannot use the

mkdosfs /dev/sda


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Re: [SLUG] New Debian Convert

[Jeff Waugh]

> 
> > the simple option for package choice is the task oriented one, right?,
> > but i must have picked some that had some wide ranging dependencies or i
> > left something selected that i didn't really want...
> 
> Can't really answer that. I've never found out what the "Simple" install
> does and haven't used it (so I'm well in the dark there) but your
> assumption sounds right to me. Anyone actually have the answer?

The simple install lists the task package, yeah.

I find it a lot more helpful than dselect (as I haven't yet bought the
chickens to sacrifice), but then, I really only ever choose two or three of
them. I leave the rest to apt.

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Re: [SLUG] New Debian Convert

[Marty]

> Can't really answer that. I've never found out what the "Simple" install
> does and haven't used it (so I'm well in the dark there) but your
> assumption sounds right to me. Anyone actually have the answer?

from memory there was an option to see "Task Info" for whatever you had
highlighted... so it sounds right...

> > anyway, if and when i get my hands on progeny i will give it a spin
> > and post a review of that as well...
> 
> Can we hold you to that? 

yup.  :)

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[SLUG] Formating a USB Floppy

[Antony Stace]

Hi Folks

Can someone please tell me how to format a disk in MSDOS format with a
USB floppy drive.  I am running Kondara MNU/Linux 2000 which has Kernel
2.2.17-10k.
My computer recoginses the USB floppy as /dev/sda.  I cannot use the

fdformat

command since it only works on the devices /dev/fdXX. 


Cheers

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Re: [SLUG] New Debian Convert

[Craige McWhirter]

On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:12:52 Marty wrote:

> > This is one of the things I liked about Debian, only installing what
> you
> > want to use, not mountains of apps you don't even know are there.
> Sounds
> > like Progeny are diverging from that. The Debian "tasks" were good
> for
> > covering the areas where you may not know all the apps (such as
> > "task-gnome").
> 
> the simple option for package choice is the task oriented one, right?,
> but
> i must have picked some that had some wide ranging dependencies or i
> left
> something selected that i didn't really want...

Can't really answer that. I've never found out what the "Simple" install
does and haven't used it (so I'm well in the dark there) but your
assumption sounds right to me. Anyone actually have the answer?


> anyway, if and when i get my hands on progeny i will give it a spin
> and
> post a review of that as well...

Can we hold you to that? 

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Re: [SLUG] New Debian Convert

[Marty]

> > couldn't wait to get my hands on Progeny, so i grabbed some 2.2 discs



> This is interesting. I was under the impression that one of the things
> Progeny were about was dumbing down/prettying the installation process.
> Of the many Debian builds I've done since coming across Debian 6 months
> ago I've never had an install go wrong (on i386,PPC or SPARC). Then
> again, it is still beta ;)

in case what i wrote isn't clear, this was **not** a progeny install (the
iso i downloaded made coasters and i am still trying to get a cd).

your not wrong in your impressions about progeny. that is what they are
trying to do...

> This is one of the things I liked about Debian, only installing what you
> want to use, not mountains of apps you don't even know are there. Sounds
> like Progeny are diverging from that. The Debian "tasks" were good for
> covering the areas where you may not know all the apps (such as
> "task-gnome").

the simple option for package choice is the task oriented one, right?, but
i must have picked some that had some wide ranging dependencies or i left
something selected that i didn't really want...


> Using Debian for work and play, APt is a re real time saver ie: When
> that DNS/Bind hac came out, I just logged onto the dozen or so servers
> and ran "apt-get update" then apt-get install bind" - Done. There's also
> probably an easier way again. Anyone?

as pointed out to me last night, "apt" like functions are not unique to
debian and i got a little overexcited about the package database helping
find the right cd (maybe people who have had to mount/umount and inspect 3
redhat cds looking for an app will share my joy)

anyway, if and when i get my hands on progeny i will give it a spin and
post a review of that as well...

later
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Re: [SLUG] Squid problem

[Craige McWhirter]

I haven't noticed any on-list replies to this (I could have missed them)
so I'll have a stab.

- Are you logging Squid? If so, what is being written to your logs? This
will give clues as to what is going wrong.

- How long have you been using squid for? Days? Weeks? Months? There are
some configuration settings that may be incorrect and not surface to
after extended use.

- How long does it run before it dies again.

My first suspicion is that the Max/Min cache size parameter is not set
to an appropriate size for your usage. But if you can answer the three
points above we'll be on our way.

On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:59:20 Yukthi wrote:
> Hello,
> We have a problem in running squid. The squid dies by itself. The
> 'squid' status is as follows
> --
> Squid dead but pid file exists
> Squid ERROR: Could not send signal 0 to process (n) no such
> process
> --
> If we start the 'squid' again, everthing works fine but squid dies
> again on its own after sometime.
> We went through the archive of this group. Some people had this
> problem, but we are unable
> to solve this using the solution in mail archives.
> 
> Can anyone please help?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
>  Regards
>  Ajay


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Re: [SLUG] New Debian Convert

[Craige McWhirter]

On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:15:12 marty wrote:
> :)
> 
> couldn't wait to get my hands on Progeny, so i grabbed some 2.2 discs
> i
> have had for a while and put them on a machine that previously i was
> playing with openBSD on.
> 
> install was a bit of a shocker. first time it stuffed up on the
> reboot. i
> think the init image was missing resulting a kernel panic. a quick
> restart
> of the installation process got things running smoothly.

This is interesting. I was under the impression that one of the things
Progeny were about was dumbing down/prettying the installation process.
Of the many Debian builds I've done since coming across Debian 6 months
ago I've never had an install go wrong (on i386,PPC or SPARC). Then
again, it is still beta ;)
 
> i was a bit surprised by some of the junk that got installed... maybe
> i
> picked a few wrong options (using simple selection), but it just
> seemed to
> put some random packages on there as well...

This is one of the things I liked about Debian, only installing what you
want to use, not mountains of apps you don't even know are there. Sounds
like Progeny are diverging from that. The Debian "tasks" were good for
covering the areas where you may not know all the apps (such as
"task-gnome").

> of course (and this comment one is for someone in particular, we all
> who)
> i was sold instantly on the package management when "apt-get install
> mutt"
> prompted for the right one of the three disc set and installed the
> package within seconds...

Using Debian for work and play, APt is a re real time saver ie: When
that DNS/Bind hac came out, I just logged onto the dozen or so servers
and ran "apt-get update" then apt-get install bind" - Done. There's also
probably an easier way again. Anyone?

> i think i am going to enjoy playing with debian a lot more...
> 
> pring on that debian SIG :)

Working on it. May be a week or two before you hear any more on it.

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[SLUG] Re: [ANN] Sun Hardware from ComputerBank.

[Zenaan Harkness]

Hi, I am registered under two different email addresses - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
and this one [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please remove this one, ie
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

to save the redundancy.

Thanks heaps
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RE: [SLUG] byte to byte info about a connection.

[Visser, Martin (SNO)]

Alan,

Ntop  does a good job of breaking down network traffic
it sees by host and protocol (among other things). It will probably see you
through.

Martin

Martin Visser 
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Compaq Computer Australia 
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Australia 
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Mobile: +61-411-254-513 
Fax:+61-2-9022-7001 
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-Original Message-
From: Alan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2001 7:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] byte to byte info about a connection.


Hey all.

My company are going to upgrade all our net connections, to a DSL
connections.  But, We would like to have byte-to-byte info about the
connection.  IE, which internal host eats the most, etc.  Is this posiable.
I guess asking if its posiable.. cause im sure ive seen somethin about it :)

Regards, Alan Lee

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Re: [SLUG] It's ALIVE!

[DaZZa]

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote:

> >   "[slug-chat] A general bezar for the off-topic discussion of the SLUG
> >   community." - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> slug-chat:
> 
>   http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug-chat

Does this mean we're going to have the list police chiming in when things
stray off topic on SLUG?

DaZZa


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Re: [SLUG] It's ALIVE!

[Marty]

>   http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug-chat

i gather this list is opt-in ?

later
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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail - Spamming Problems

[Andreas Mueller]

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 07:12:00AM +1000, Steven Kerr wrote:


> Question: What other configuration could I use to stop this spamming ?
> 

deny his mailhost ( ip )

access-file
-
mailmx.e-kolay.net 550 Blocked, cause of neverending Spam
212.15.64.41 550 Spammers shan't see sunlight here
net-pa@ 550 Spammers shan't see sunlight here
.
.
.
-

I guess you tried to reach him by email/phone in order to stop
his spam report him as a spamer at abuse network, or add 

FEATURE(dnsbl,`dul.maps.vix.com',`Please contact your ISP 
$&{client_addr}; Your a registered Spam-Host')

to your sendmail.mc file if he's a registered spamer 
see http://www.orbs.org www.mail-abuse.org

nice test you see if you mailserver is a 'secure'

telnet mail-abuse.org 

amu

P.S. if somebody is interested my access.file ~1000 entries
 e-mail :)  
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[SLUG] byte to byte info about a connection.

[Alan Lee]

Hey all.
 
My company are going to upgrade all our net 
connections, to a DSL connections.  But, We would like to have byte-to-byte 
info about the connection.  IE, which internal host eats the most, 
etc.  Is this posiable.  I guess asking if its posiable.. cause 
im sure ive seen somethin about it :)
 
Regards, Alan Lee

[SLUG] Sendmail - Spamming Problems

[Steven Kerr]

Sluggers

I have noticed over that last few days that some slime ball is using
our sendmail 8.9.3 mail server as a relay.

I have checked the anti-relaying configuration of it and it appears,
to me anyway, to be ok.

If I place the source domain into /etc/access

ie: hichina.comREJECT

I get the Access Denied message which is ok (no more spamming) but
probably not the correct solution (Another doman will probably appear
in a few days to spam some more).

On checking the log I noticed:

Feb  7 10:15:13 gatekeeper sendmail[16323]: KAA16323:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=702, class=0, pri=30702, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]

(gatekeeper.mydomain.com.au is my mail server.

So I assumed that the spammer is using the address 127.0.0.1
(localhost) as the address that the mail is 
coming from.

I changed the line in /etc/access for localhost to REJECT and this
also cured the spamming problem (Now geting Null connections from
localhost). Normal mail appears to be getting through ok.

I feel that this is the wrong thing to do.

Question: What other configuration could I use to stop this spamming ?

Regards

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Re: [SLUG] Kylix arrives

[Terry Collins]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Delphi Kylix was released Jan 31.
> 
> C++ Kylix is real soon now ( oh well ).
> 
> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-01-31-001-27-OP-CY-SW
> or community.borland.com
> 
> There are stripped down free versions available.  By the sounds of it more
> complete than the windoze free versions though.

Does anyone have a URL for the download?

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Re: [SLUG] Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote

[Terry Collins]

Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > You must have done something to tip it off. Both the Worms and I voted
> > from the same machine.
> 
> Craige said later that 'there's always one'.
> 
> He was right -> but it wasn't him.

Naturally, it has to be tested.
I figured it was obvious enough to detect.
Response is about par (<10% for an opinion)

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[SLUG] It's ALIVE!

[Jeff Waugh]

>   "[slug-chat] A general bezar for the off-topic discussion of the SLUG
>   community." - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

slug-chat:

  http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug-chat

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RE: [SLUG] Authentication

[avant]

>From my experiences, I figure that a well configured samba server should do
you well.
I think the newest (beta) supports domain logons.

Bleh, its late, what would i know? :)

avant.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, 5 February 2001 10:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Authentication


With linux as the server, what is the best way to set up centralised
network authentication (domain logon, so to speak) for windows
95/98/NT and linux clients? I'd like to avoid putting in an NT server.

Regards,
Matthias

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Re: [SLUG] Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote

[Jeff Waugh]

> I still think if we'd call it [slug-beer] and made it a dicussion list for
> where we were drink next it'd have passed unanimously :-)

I see another SIG in SLUG's future.

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[SLUG] Squid problem

[Yukthi]

Hello,
We have a problem in running squid. The squid dies by itself. 
The 'squid' status is as follows
--
Squid dead but pid file exists
Squid ERROR: Could not send signal 0 to process (n) 
no such process
--
If we start the 'squid' again, everthing works fine but squid 
dies again on its own after sometime.
We went through the archive of this group. Some people had 
this problem, but we are unable
to solve this using the solution in mail 
archives.
 
Can anyone please help?
 
Thanks in advance.
 Regards Ajay
 

Re: [SLUG] Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote

[Rodos]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote:

> Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote
> 
>
> Yes: 16  A whopping 29 votes were placed, with the 'yes' vote coming out on
>  No: 13  top. Pretty piss-poor turnout (you won't catch them saying *that*
> ---  on TV this year), and not exactly a resounding victory. So, it
> TOT: 29  looks like we'll be trialling a new list, right?

Well I would not call a three vote difference a big win. I would guess that
those who wanted no voted and those that did not really care did not. So yes
IMHO the yes vote one.

> Now, what are we going to call the thing? ;) KIDDING!

[SLUG-CHAT]

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[SLUG] [SLUG-Chat] Qantus lounge.

[Rodos]

Am flying to Melbourne tomorrow and my friend is a member of the Qantas club.
Last time I was in there they had some Internet terminals. Might see if I can
pull the network cable on one and see if I can get a DCHP lease and surf the
net of my laptop!

Of course a smart person would tie the leases to the MAC addresses of the
machines that were there. Maybe then I could just go into permiscous mode and
do a tcpdump off the wire and pipe it through strings to see what is flying
past.

Um, even better is a wireless card! I hear they are wiring up some of the
airports in the us with "airports", pardon the pun!

I could always tell the story of when I freaked out a planes electrical system
by sending a very large amount of static electricity into the audio system
during the start of a movie, causing everyone to remove their headsets, stand
up and look around. What else is one to do when ones jack on their seat does
not work, you simply have to splice into the headset of your wife. Problem is
you have to hide all the mess of twisted wires, well it was stereo. I chose on
my lap under a blanket. Ever see how much static those blankets can create, not
a good combination! Some things one only does once!

See ya,

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Re: [SLUG] Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote

[David]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Rodos wrote:

> 
> > Now, what are we going to call the thing? ;) KIDDING!
> 
> [SLUG-CHAT]

SLIME 
SLOG ???



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[SLUG] [SLUG-Chat] Should I up my printer memory.

[Rodos]

Well I have this LaserJet 6P which is wonderfull. The only issue is that
lately it has been giving out of memory errors. It prints some of the page
and then dumps a fresh page with a little message saying there was not
enough memory, reduce fonts, adjust resolution etc.

Only just started doing it after quite a few years of working fine.

I checked out the HT web site but could not find any memory for it.
All the model numbers have changed as well.

Anyone know where I can get some memory for it?

Rodos

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Re: [SLUG] Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote

[Dan Treacy]

I still think if we'd call it [slug-beer] and made it a dicussion list for
where we were drink next it'd have passed unanimously :-)

Btw I hearby claim that's the voting was confusing I meant to vote for
Gore.. an appeal willbe lodged!

:-)

Dan.



> 
>
> > You must have done something to tip it off. Both the Worms and I voted
> > from the same machine.
>
> Craige said later that 'there's always one'.
>
> He was right -> but it wasn't him.
>
> - Jeff
>
>
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Re: [SLUG] Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote

[Jeff Waugh]

> You must have done something to tip it off. Both the Worms and I voted
> from the same machine.

Craige said later that 'there's always one'.

He was right -> but it wasn't him.

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Re: [SLUG] Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote

[Terry Collins]

Jeff Waugh wrote:

..snip

>   "Donkey Vote" - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>   "Now you're a little sheister aren't you ;) I went to test vote after you
>   said it verifies against your email address [ with "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ]
>   Came back to vote for real as myself (different email, funnily enough) and
>   it said I'd already voted! Cheeky bugger." - Craige McWhirter (gotcha
>   Craige!)

You must have done something to tip it off. Both the Worms and I voted
from the same machine.

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[SLUG] Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote

[Jeff Waugh]

Results of Completely Unscientific New List Vote


Yes: 16  A whopping 29 votes were placed, with the 'yes' vote coming out on
 No: 13  top. Pretty piss-poor turnout (you won't catch them saying *that*
---  on TV this year), and not exactly a resounding victory. So, it
TOT: 29  looks like we'll be trialling a new list, right?


The Stuff Wot People Wrote
--

A short selection of comments from the people who voted.

  "[slug-chat] A general bezar for the off-topic discussion of the SLUG
  community." - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  "It should at least be tried. If the main list gets too dry and lifeless,
  then maybe close down slug-social, but until then let the madness reign
  there." - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [sic]

  "[...] it is very hard to define the notion of "off-topic" when it comes
  to serious questions" - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  "Let's have a two week trial or something. 
  Let's make the trial list opt-out - ie. subscribe everyone already on SLUG
  automatically to slug-social and let the few who don't want to be on it
  unsubscribe." - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  "Donkey Vote" - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  "Now you're a little sheister aren't you ;) I went to test vote after you
  said it verifies against your email address [ with "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ]
  Came back to vote for real as myself (different email, funnily enough) and
  it said I'd already voted! Cheeky bugger." - Craige McWhirter (gotcha
  Craige!)

  "Just get over it, everyone enjoys the chit chat. From petrol prices to
  car theft. i reckon the hardcore geeks should form their own list."
  - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  "And another list for discussing whether or not we should create more
  lists." - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  "You can use this for organising social events also." - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  "oath." - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  "most people would subscribe to both list's anyway, just so they don't
  miss anything." - [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Now, what are we going to call the thing? ;) KIDDING!

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[SLUG] New Debian Convert

[marty]

:)

couldn't wait to get my hands on Progeny, so i grabbed some 2.2 discs i
have had for a while and put them on a machine that previously i was
playing with openBSD on.

install was a bit of a shocker. first time it stuffed up on the reboot. i
think the init image was missing resulting a kernel panic. a quick restart
of the installation process got things running smoothly.

i was a bit surprised by some of the junk that got installed... maybe i
picked a few wrong options (using simple selection), but it just seemed to
put some random packages on there as well...

of course (and this comment one is for someone in particular, we all who)
i was sold instantly on the package management when "apt-get install mutt"
prompted for the right one of the three disc set and installed the
package within seconds...

i think i am going to enjoy playing with debian a lot more...

pring on that debian SIG :)

marty

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Re: [SLUG] Debian Potato -> Sid upgrade.

[Martin]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Afternoon all
>
> I am fiddling with my second Debian install.
>
> I thought I would try unstable on my portable.  Following various
> instructions found by searching Debian.org & Google I did the following:
>
> 1. install stable from cd (base only)
> 2. change sources.list to point at unstable sources at mirror.aarnet etc
> 3. run apt-get update
> 4. run apt-get -d dist-upgrade
> 5. run apt-get -u -f --simulate dist-upgrade (All looked OK at this point)
> 6. run apt-get -u -f dist-upgrade
>
> Apt reports "problems" with a number of packages at the end of this process
> including ifupdown, netkit-inetd, netbase, exim, mailx, setserial, adduser,
> & ppp.
> Lots of things seem to be broken & I can't see why.  Many of the rc.2
> scripts seem to be missing.  I can't get eth0 to go.  Modules weren't being
> loaded but do if I execute the script in init.d manually.  Exim complians
> it has no configuration file (although there does seem to be one) etc, etc.
>
> Could someone suggest whay I have done wrong or what I should try.  I
> thought Debian would handle the upgrade a little more elegantly.

Well, it's called unstable for a reason, and often there can be problems
that impact during the upgrade. At the moment, a lot of people are
finding that perl is getting removed/ignored during the upgrade, and
some have fixed that by just doing:

apt-get install perl-5.6-base perl-5.6

also, I often find that there are conflicts relating to files that are
supposed to be there from the previous version but are not, careful use
of:

dpkg -i --force-overwrite -.deb

is your friend here. Beyond that, report specific errors and maybe
you'll get more help.

cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Web pager designing tools?

[Heracles]

DaZZa wrote:
> 
> I know this has been done recently, but...
> 
> Anyone got a recommendation for a Linux web page design tool - similar to
> Dreamweaver?
> 
> I'd prefer free if possible - but shareware won't be frowned at.

If you prefer a GUI then Star Office is OK. Not as good as
Dreamweaver, but cheaper.

Stay well and happy
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Re: [SLUG] Debian Potato -> Sid upgrade.

[chesty]

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:28:28PM +1100, David Kempe wrote:
> > apt-get update
> > Then I guess you can do another dist-upgrade, or just a upgrade.
> 
> Whats the difference between these two commands?

RFTM 

man apt-get

(I can't help myself)

upgrade only installs new versions of packages that are available
if it can. It won't upgrade a package if its dependent on a package
that isn't already installed, and it won't upgrade a package if it
now conflicts with a package that is installed.

dist-upgrade will install extra packages if they are a dependency and 
will remove old ones if they now conflict.

Basically, if you've got potato installed and you want to upgrade to woody 
you need to use dist-upgrade. If you just want to update to the latest
potato packages, you can use the upgrade option.

I know I'm being elite, but seriously, read the relevant sections of 
the apt-get man page for a decent description.

Simon will probably have to use dist-upgrade again. I don't think it will hurt 
to use dist-upgrade even if its not required. And if you're tracking unstable
you probably should use dist-upgrade in case new dependencies or conflicts
are made. (thats my uninformed opinion, anyway)

I also wouldn't use the -f option of apt-get unless I needed to because
of a broken package or some other reason. I'd rather have apt-get
fail rather than try to half upgrade my system and leave it in a
broken state. (hello simon :)


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Re: [SLUG] The Great SLUG Social Vote

[Steve Kowalik]

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:58:43AM +1100, Jeff Waugh uttered:
> 
> 
> > ... and the results were ...
> 
> Closing Wednesday, 6pm. :)
> 
> No results for you! Come back, 7 hours!
>
Oki, it's been 9 hours. *duck*
:-)

> - Jeff
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Re: [SLUG] Debian Potato -> Sid upgrade.

[David Kempe]

> apt-get update
> Then I guess you can do another dist-upgrade, or just a upgrade.

Whats the difference between these two commands?

dave


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Re: [SLUG] Temporary mailbox close?

[Mike Holland]

> At 10:19 AM 7/02/01 +1100, Simon Bryan wrote:
> >Hi,
> >I often have staff members going on leave for a term or more. In the 
> >meantine their mailboxes continue to fill, is there anyway I can 
> >temporairily close the mailbox so that it rejects any new mail and sends a 
> >message to the sender? We are running Mandrake Linux 6 and Sendmail 8.9.

You can add an entry to /etc/mail/access (dont forget to 'make')

See http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti-spam.html
FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients') :

blacklist_recipients
   Turns on the ability to block incoming mail for certain recipient
usernames, hostnames, or addresses. For example, you can block incoming
mail to user nobody, host foo.mydomain.com, or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
These specifications are put in the access db as described on the
Anti-Spam Configuration Control page..

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Re: [SLUG] Temporary mailbox close?

[Jon Biddell]

At 10:19 AM 7/02/01 +1100, Simon Bryan wrote:
>Hi,
>I often have staff members going on leave for a term or more. In the 
>meantine their mailboxes continue to fill, is there anyway I can 
>temporairily close the mailbox so that it rejects any new mail and sends a 
>message to the sender? We are running Mandrake Linux 6 and Sendmail 8.9.

Hmmm You could use a .forward file to send their mail to the portal of 
their choice...:-)


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