Re: [SLUG] Answer + Disappointment
begin Rob B quotation: When I was working in the support section of an ISP, we routinely used a ping with this command (in hex) as payload to hang up customers with only one phone line :) We found that the only modems that it wouldn't work on were the US Robotics - based ones, pretty much everything else was disconnected by it. Interesting -- but that makes sense. (And I've always told people, if they ask my opinion about modems, to get a USR V.Everything external, and even then to not rest content until they'd optimised its S-registers.[1]) You're probably aware of the key point, here, but others may not be: That trick works because the modem _retransmits_ what was furnished to it in the ping command. In other words, the modem can receive escape sequences all day long with no effect (e.g., in e-mail), and not respond no matter how badly set up, but must be maneouvered into transmitting them. It's been years since I last even thought through the mechanics of this, honestly. [1] http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/#whichmodem -- Cheers, The cynics among us might say: We laugh, Rick Moen monkeyboys -- Linux IS the mainstream UNIX now! [EMAIL PROTECTED] MuaHaHaHa! but that would be rude. -- Jim Dennis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: modem escape sequence - it got me.
begin Gnuthad quotation: I guess putting rubbish like that in your headers makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? It provides me copious amounts of entertainment when people foam at the mouth about it. Which reminds me: You're not really doing your job in the frenetically scandalised department. Could you please aim for a little more boisterous outrage? This will never do. -- Cheers, Founding member of the Hyphenation Society, a grassroots-based, Rick Moen not-for-profit, locally-owned-and-operated, cooperatively-managed, [EMAIL PROTECTED] modern-American-English-usage-improvement association -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Answer + Disappointment
When I was working in the support section of an ISP, we routinely used a ping with this command (in hex) as payload to hang up customers with only one phone line :) We found that the only modems that it wouldn't work on were the US Robotics - based ones, pretty much everything else was disconnected by it. Now THIS give me several evil ideas.:-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Unable to get webmin rpm
I tried to ftp from my command line into ftp://ftp.webmin.com:21 and got an HTML page back! I don't have a GUI on my Linux server and I have to login remotely to get there, so I'm stuck on how to get this webmin software. Can someone tell me how to get the latest webmin rpm for Linux with a command line? I have tried: $ ftp ftp.webmin.com and $ wget the-file-name but without any luck. I tried Lynx to follow the links to get the rpm but no luck there either. Thanks, James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unable to get webmin rpm
James wget this url : http://www.webmin.com/webmin/download/rpm/webmin-0.87.rpm Dave I tried to ftp from my command line into ftp://ftp.webmin.com:21 and got an HTML page back! I don't have a GUI on my Linux server and I have to login remotely to get there, so I'm stuck on how to get this webmin software. Can someone tell me how to get the latest webmin rpm for Linux with a command line? I have tried: $ ftp ftp.webmin.com and $ wget the-file-name -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unable to get webmin rpm
Thanks Dave all done. Got it. :) James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Samba hooks in Perl?
What I'm after is rather unusual, but no doubt quite handy in a wide range of other situations. I want to be able to build a front-end to a database through SMB file shares to Windows machines. Here's my problem. I'm working on a document management strategy here at my new work. Ideally it will fit in with peoples' current way of working as closely as possible. Everyone (hopefully) understands the heirarchy of a file system. The problem with a simple heirarchical structure is its single dimensional categorisation. You can decide that something is Administration/HR/New PC policy. However it could also be relevent to Departments/IT/. A simple way to do this is with symlinks but there's no user-friendly way to do this that's consistent with the file system interface -- don't even think about fscking Windows shortcuts. So the way I'm thinking of doing it is to store everything in a database with appropriate metadata attached to each file. The files can be explored through a web interface or through a heirarchical file system structure. To do this I need to be able to export it through Samba. Note this isn't a fully formed project, just an idealet. Feel free to comment. Now the specifics: is there some way to export things to Samba through Perl? The only Perl modules matching Samba are smbclient front-ends which isn't what I'm after. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] VERY worrying
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:26:51AM +1000, Silcock, Stephen uttered: Wouldn't this apply in the US only? Notice Howard is in the US right now to lick Texan butt and try and negotiate a free trade agreement with them? Guess what the kicker will be for the US? That's right, their most profitable industries (entertainment and software) will need protection. Sacrifice one heavily subsidised, not very profitable industry (farming) for the far more profitable ones. This has already happened with the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and was brought up at the recent Free Trade Agreement of the Americas conference (much to the disgust of some South American countries who have been compulsorily licensing AIDS drug patents). -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Samba hooks in Perl?
Rev Simon Rumble wrote: So the way I'm thinking of doing it is to store everything in a database with appropriate metadata attached to each file. The files can be explored through a web interface or through a heirarchical file system structure. To do this I need to be able to export it through Samba. You need Samba to put the document in a LInux server for the 'other side' but you do not need to use Samba for your web application. On demand solution. User clicks button on Admin page and find picks up all new documents since last search, registers them in database. grepping out the word info (assumed) would be very handy here. Now you have your database of documents link away using your new application. Periodic solution, find on the entire file system and flag deleted documents and add new documents, can be in combination to the on demand solution. Just some thoughts, KenF PS: This is better than the off topic crap lately. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unable to get webmin rpm
At 21:53 11/09/01 +1000, James Buchanan wrote: I tried to ftp from my command line into ftp://ftp.webmin.com:21 and got an HTML page back! I don't have a GUI on my Linux server and I have to login remotely to get there, so I'm stuck on how to get this webmin software. Can someone tell me how to get the latest webmin rpm for Linux with a command line? I have tried: Do you want me to email it to you ? Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Check this out
Turn the news on. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Check this out
This one time, at band camp, Antony Clarke wrote: Turn the news on. ObLinux: xawtv and vcr are two excellent applications for those of you with tv tuners. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg Balial This port may thing it's fortified, butt I seem to be mounting a pretty good assault -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Check this out
Are they after John Hunt? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Check this out
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:58, Jamie Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one time, at band camp, Antony Clarke wrote: Turn the news on. ObLinux: xawtv and vcr are two excellent applications for those of you with tv tuners. Oh Bugger (it deserves the caps). I have CNN live, but the tv card is at the other end of town, I've had the VCR going pretty much from the start. Scary, scary stuff. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Check this out
At 23:58 11/09/01 +1000, you wrote: This one time, at band camp, Antony Clarke wrote: Turn the news on. ObLinux: xawtv and vcr are two excellent applications for those of you with tv tuners. And which tuner (that's CABLE / SATELLITE capable, of course) would Mr smartypants recommend ???...:-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Check this out
This one time, at band camp, Jon Biddell wrote: And which tuner (that's CABLE / SATELLITE capable, of course) would Mr smartypants recommend ???...:-) I don't know what he'd recommend, but *my* WinTV BT-878 card has an s-video input and the antenna coax, so I could in theory plug it into a cable decoder box. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg Balial This port may thing it's fortified, butt I seem to be mounting a pretty good assault -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Check this out
begin Antony Clarke quotation: Turn the news on. A very sad day, to be sure. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Check this out
Holy shit! Feeling rather comfortable here on the 19th floor in the tallest building in this part of London working for an Israeli company. Erk. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Check this out
Shit! Possibly thousands of people are dead. The WTO towers can hold 50,000 workers. Both towers are down. Well, if we are going to have WW3 now is the time it is most likely. I wonder if any buildings in Australia or Britain will be targeted? James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Re: Check this out
On 11-Sep-2001 James Buchanan wrote: I wonder if any buildings in Australia or Britain will be targeted? Rumour of the moment: hijacked airliner heading from Amsterdam to London. I am feeling somewhat more confortable sitting here 20 miles to the west of London than I would be closer in. Meanwhile the City has closed down and is running for the exits. -- Jim Hague - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Play) Never trust a computer you can't lift. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Check this out
All I wonder if any buildings in Australia or Britain will be targeted? Nothing here just the States. Both towers and one part of the Pentagon. That is extremely serious. Being an ex-serviceman I can say that I don't like any of it. The news reports on the TV go on about being worse than Perl Harbor . I think we know what that means ? I've been expecting it for years. Vogon comstructor fleet should turn up tomorrow ? Thanks -- Richard www.sheflug.co.uk -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Naughty IMAP, naughty
For some obsure reason I was looking at my mailbox in its raw form and I noticed the first message in the box, which I know is put there by the IMAP protocol to carry its stats, but this line rather stood out: X-IMAP: 0967272335 039418 lesbo, homo, lesbian, anarchism, nazi, communism, CIA, bomb, The odd thing is that this is the only mailbox with this line in this form, all the others just have the numbers. paranoid Is my mailer trying to compromise me (8-) /paranoid -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Check this out
At 07:29 11/09/01 -0700, Rick Moen wrote: begin Antony Clarke quotation: Turn the news on. A very sad day, to be sure. Um... Can someone enlighten me pls ? Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Check this out
quote who=Jon Biddell Um... Can someone enlighten me pls ? You've probably heard by now. Turn on your television. :) - Jeff -- chown -R us:us yourbase -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Naughty IMAP, naughty
I did hear from some nutball last week that this week was national echelon week... where ppl were going to send emails and phone calls etc containing multiple key words to try and fill up and cause havoc with echelon... maybe something to do with that?? argh... who knows Dave - Original Message - From: Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:44 am Subject: [SLUG] Naughty IMAP, naughty For some obsure reason I was looking at my mailbox in its raw form and I noticed the first message in the box, which I know is put there by the IMAP protocol to carry its stats, but this line rather stood out: X-IMAP: 0967272335 039418 lesbo, homo, lesbian, anarchism, nazi, communism, CIA, bomb, The odd thing is that this is the only mailbox with this line in this form, all the others just have the numbers. paranoid Is my mailer trying to compromise me (8-) /paranoid -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] XFree86 badness
Hey, Two days ago I apt-got the latest (woody) version of XFree86: XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) I can now no longer run X. When I try to kick off xdm or startx I get the following message: snip - the output is large and I will forward it to people on request (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (EE) VGA(0): Driver can't support depth 24 (II) UnloadModule: vga (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found Now the odd thing is that (a) my XFree86Config file has not changed at all, and (b) my default colour depth is 16 bit. Below is a copy of my relevant definitions in /etc/X11/XFree86Config: Section Module Loaddbe # Double buffer extension SubSection extmod Optionomit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection Loadtype1 Loadfreetype Load glx EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection Section ServerFlags EndSection Section InputDevice IdentifierKeyboard1 DriverKeyboard Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc101 Option XkbLayoutus EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option Buttons 7 Option ZAxisMapping 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier My Monitor HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3 VertRefresh 50-90 EndSection Section Device Identifier Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 PRO Driver s3virge #VideoRam4096 #Option xaa_benchmark #Option fifo_moderate #Option pci_burst_on #Option pci_retry # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen 1 Device Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 PRO Monitor My Monitor DefaultDepth 16 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Simple Layout Screen Screen 1 InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard EndSection Help? Stephen -- Time was invented so that everything in the universe would not happen at once. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] XFree86 badness
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Stephen Graham wrote: Two days ago I apt-got the latest (woody) version of XFree86: XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System Were you running V3 or V4 before? if V3 then its a major upgrade and you should reconfigure. Now the odd thing is that (a) my XFree86Config file has not changed at all, and (b) my default colour depth is 16 bit. Below is a copy of my relevant definitions in /etc/X11/XFree86Config: Wrong name. Old file is XF86Config, new one is XF86Config-4, with a new format. Its supposed to fall back to the old one if needed. (if typo, best to cut paste names) ciao, -- Mike Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==-- Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it. -- Mark Twain -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Samba hooks in Perl?
I'd strongly suggest making it web-only, without the SMB side. Reason being, no doubt at some time in the future the powers that be will want to link it into their office in another country, and SMB will be pretty slow (even on a VPN). Also if it is web based it means you won't have to support the end users' PCs anywhere near as much. Your IT Dept will love you for it as they won't have to worry about setting file permissions for new users/groups/blah. Even NT admins admit that SMB/CIFS is slow and bulky! I use smbclient in an application (actually in sh, rather than PERL) but I use it like FTP. That is, I just get the files I need (using cron) and work on them with PERL on a local disk rather than through the temperamental SMB interface. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ken Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 23:05 To: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Samba hooks in Perl? Rev Simon Rumble wrote: So the way I'm thinking of doing it is to store everything in a database with appropriate metadata attached to each file. The files can be explored through a web interface or through a heirarchical file system structure. To do this I need to be able to export it through Samba. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] XFree86 badness
Mike Holland was once rumoured to have said: On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Stephen Graham wrote: Now the odd thing is that (a) my XFree86Config file has not changed at all, and (b) my default colour depth is 16 bit. Below is a copy of my relevant definitions in /etc/X11/XFree86Config: Wrong name. Old file is XF86Config, new one is XF86Config-4, with a new format. Its supposed to fall back to the old one if needed. (if typo, best to cut paste names) Uh, no. XF86Config is still supported by XFree4 but if XF86Config-4 is found first, then that is used in prefernce to XF86Config. Of course, if you want to have both v3 and v4 installed and workable at once, you need to use the -4 suffix so you can build a valid configuration for v3. C. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] XFree86 badness
Well tickle me pink, I am a moron... It is the XF86Config-4 file (even though I had been using v4 earlier, I had only a XF86Config file...) Thanks Stephen This one time, at band camp, Mike Holland said: On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Stephen Graham wrote: Two days ago I apt-got the latest (woody) version of XFree86: XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System Were you running V3 or V4 before? if V3 then its a major upgrade and you should reconfigure. Now the odd thing is that (a) my XFree86Config file has not changed at all, and (b) my default colour depth is 16 bit. Below is a copy of my relevant definitions in /etc/X11/XFree86Config: Wrong name. Old file is XF86Config, new one is XF86Config-4, with a new format. Its supposed to fall back to the old one if needed. (if typo, best to cut paste names) ciao, -- Mike Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==-- Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it. -- Mark Twain -- Time was invented so that everything in the universe would not happen at once. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug