Re: [SLUG] debugging ODBC / samba - solved

2003-06-14 Thread Stewart
On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 06:55  PM, Stewart wrote:

Anyhow, as Mike said and my experience is showing, it's not MYOB per 
se that's the problem, it's this ODBC driver using the MYOB file as a 
system DSN.
Well i haven't exactly solved the problem but thought it worth posting 
that i'm now certain it's got nothing to do with samba at all. I moved 
the data file onto another 2k box and the ODBC connection was just as 
dastardly as when served via samba.

Interesting though, when using tethereal to sniff network traffic in 
verbose mode, the odbc driver generated about 110Mb of textfile in a 
just a few seconds - i shut the sniff off for the rest of the 10 
minutes the query took. a similar query to the same data file from MYOB 
took only a few seconds and created only about 8Mb of verbose tethereal 
data.

just all FYI FWIW really. I'm going to hand the problem back to the 
software vendor now that i've proved it's not a server issue.

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[SLUG] Evolution & IMAP

2003-06-14 Thread steven
We have been using Lotus Notes for email for around 8 years.  Notes has a 
fairly sophisticated database replication / mail holding system which is 
especially useful for occasionally connected users.  They can prepare 
emails off line and when they connect send the mail and pick up any new 
mails.  The server mail file  and the client mail get updated to hold the 
same data.  (This is also configurable)

I have converted a couple of users to Linux running Redhat 9 and they are 
using Evolution as the client.  They can read mail using IMAP, although 
they only get a local copy of new mail in a particular folder if they open 
that folder while connected to the server.  When they send mail the 
senders copy is only stored on the particular computer they happen to be 
sitting at.  They would like it to get stored on the server as well.

A work around we use at the moment is that the user bcc's themselves a 
copy and then later files that appropriately on the server.

Has anyone else found this to be a problem?  I don't know if IMAP supports 
it but it would be nice to be able to send mail via IMAP and hus via the 
central server as well as read it and then a copy would be kept on the 
server.  This is not an option in Evolution.  Does anyone have another 
solution?  I guess this is a problem with many email systems where users 
may access their mail from multiple locations or over an intermittent 
connection.

Regards to all
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Re: [SLUG] Evolution & IMAP

2003-06-14 Thread Kevin Saenz
I thought I saw the ability to send all your sent items to the server
by modifying the send folder option.

> We have been using Lotus Notes for email for around 8 years.  Notes has a 
> fairly sophisticated database replication / mail holding system which is 
> especially useful for occasionally connected users.  They can prepare 
> emails off line and when they connect send the mail and pick up any new 
> mails.  The server mail file  and the client mail get updated to hold the 
> same data.  (This is also configurable)
> 
> I have converted a couple of users to Linux running Redhat 9 and they are 
> using Evolution as the client.  They can read mail using IMAP, although 
> they only get a local copy of new mail in a particular folder if they open 
> that folder while connected to the server.  When they send mail the 
> senders copy is only stored on the particular computer they happen to be 
> sitting at.  They would like it to get stored on the server as well.
> 
> A work around we use at the moment is that the user bcc's themselves a 
> copy and then later files that appropriately on the server.
> 
> Has anyone else found this to be a problem?  I don't know if IMAP supports 
> it but it would be nice to be able to send mail via IMAP and hus via the 
> central server as well as read it and then a copy would be kept on the 
> server.  This is not an option in Evolution.  Does anyone have another 
> solution?  I guess this is a problem with many email systems where users 
> may access their mail from multiple locations or over an intermittent 
> connection.
> 
> Regards to all
> Steven
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[SLUG] Themes in nautilus?

2003-06-14 Thread Kevin Saenz
I have been looking to change the themes in nautilus on Redhat 9.0,
Redhat 9.0 with xd2 and on Mandrake 9.1. Have these versions of
nautilus have modded so that you can't change the themes?
If now how do I change the themes?
I have been down the road of edit, preferences the dialogue box that
pops up does not have appearances at all.

Thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Themes in nautilus?

2003-06-14 Thread Chris D.
Kevin Saenz wrote:
>I have been looking to change the themes in nautilus on Redhat 9.0,
>Redhat 9.0 with xd2 and on Mandrake 9.1. Have these versions of
>nautilus have modded so that you can't change the themes?

No, nautilus now doesn't do themes -- but Icon themes will change the
icons for you ;)


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[SLUG] Distros & Versions for Sun Hardware

2003-06-14 Thread Terry Collins
I have a Sun Sparcstation 10 (Solaris 8) and a Sun Sparcclassic (RH6.2)
that I want to move into a new DMZ. 

So I'm looking for recommendations for distros & versions of Linux that
are best for their new role. Are any sparc linux suitable? 

Gui's are irrelevant as I want to run a http and smtp servers and prefer
text configs.

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Re: [SLUG] Meaning of Nonsense in s p a m

2003-06-14 Thread Mark A. Bell
--- Nick Croft  wrote:
> Just wondering if someone could enlighten me as to the meaning,
> purpose or
> origin of those strange nonsense words in spam.  I'm busy refining
> spamc
> & bogofilter atm and I see a lot of those words.

It's got to do with fooling Bayesian statistical filters, I think. See
this article for a description:
http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html

 I guess what normally happens is that if a message is identified as
spam, it's keywords are added to the filter's database of
spam-keywords. These messages make sure that a bunch of nonsense is
added to the database at the same time, eventually clogging it up with
nonsense.

That's just a guess - I'm no expert on this stuff. Surely it's easy
enough to filter out the nonsense, and _then_ run the message through
the filter. 

If it was me, I'd be looking for _collocations_ of keywords (e.g.
'prescription' only if it co-occurs within a given span with 'viagra'
or 'vallium'...). But like I said, this isn't my field.

Are there any filters that attempt to scan for grammatical pattens,
like for example imperatives "Visit our exciting web-site!" or clauses
without a finite verb "Free viagra content here!" ? Or do they all just
work at the vocabulary level?

mark

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Re: [SLUG] Themes in nautilus?

2003-06-14 Thread Kevin Saenz
That bites.

When did they stop that?

> No, nautilus now doesn't do themes -- but Icon themes will change the
> icons for you ;)
> 
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[SLUG] Billion ADSL Router (BIPAC-741)

2003-06-14 Thread Phillipus Gunawan
G'day SLUGers

Does anyone here ever using BIPAC-741 from Billion?

I'm using InterNode ADSL which giving me a dynamic ip.
I've tried so hard to configure its 'Virtual Server'
feature to redirect any incoming HTTP from outside
world into my tiny box of redhat 9 web server.

I can open my web server via local connection (e.g.
http://192.168.1.10) which I supposed theres nothing
wrong with the conf.

But if I type in the ADSL ip address, it open the
front page of the ADSL modem configuration page, which
is really security_risk for me.

Any comment?


Phillipus.

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[SLUG] Please Help

2003-06-14 Thread Edward Maloney
I am desperately seeking the ability to record my modem data transmissions (from phone 
line recording made w/sound board) and would like to decode both originating/answer 
sides of data transmissions after call has been made. I have no way of converting this 
.wav file to ASCII data.  

Any help would greatly be appreciated.

Thank You,
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Re: [SLUG] Billion ADSL Router (BIPAC-741)

2003-06-14 Thread Felix Sheldon
That might be normal, you could try to request a page from outside your
network and see if that works.  You're probably getting the router
config page because you are connecting to it from the 'inside'  

Babelfish is one way to test it.



On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 03:29, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
> G'day SLUGers
> 
> Does anyone here ever using BIPAC-741 from Billion?
> 
> I'm using InterNode ADSL which giving me a dynamic ip.
> I've tried so hard to configure its 'Virtual Server'
> feature to redirect any incoming HTTP from outside
> world into my tiny box of redhat 9 web server.
> 
> I can open my web server via local connection (e.g.
> http://192.168.1.10) which I supposed theres nothing
> wrong with the conf.
> 
> But if I type in the ADSL ip address, it open the
> front page of the ADSL modem configuration page, which
> is really security_risk for me.
> 
> Any comment?
> 
> 
> Phillipus.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] OT - Australian distro?

2003-06-14 Thread Andrew Lau
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 12:43:03AM +0300, David Howard wrote:
> As an expat a long way from home, I find myself using (apart from
> straight Debian) mainly Canadian distros (Libranet/Vector/Peanut).
> To the best of my knowledge, no Australian distros are currently
> extant.  My question is, are any in the works?

There are 49 Australians in Debian-devel [1] and probably a dozen
New/Unofficial Maintainers (including Daniel Stone and myself). Is
that close enough?  = P

Cheers,
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[SLUG] Popular Distros in Australia.

2003-06-14 Thread Enrique Vila
Title: Mensaje



Hi 
all,
 
I´m preparing my 
migration to Australia (not yet there) but I´m gathering some information 
about the linux world in down under.
 
Is there any 
specially popular distribution in Australia? or is it like in th 
US?
 
Do you guys are all 
members of ACS? or any other organization?
 
Cheers...
 
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[SLUG] Linux in a Laptop.

2003-06-14 Thread Enrique Vila
Title: Mensaje



Hi 
all,
 
Is any one running 
linux in a thinkpad T30 with reasonable success?
 
I just got mine with 
Windows XP but want to dual boot it with Linux.
 
Which distribution 
would be more appropiate?
 
Thanks in advance 
for any advice
 
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Re: [SLUG] Billion ADSL Router (BIPAC-741)

2003-06-14 Thread Mehmet Yousouf
If you are typing in the ADSL internal address (192.168.1.x) and getting it's 
configuration page that is ok, it is supposed to forward it's EXTERNAL address. 
If you can access the modem configuration page externally (from the net) I would 
disable that.  
If the modem is listening to port 80, either change it (I think it is in the misc. 
settings) or change th port for your web server (LISTEN XX in the conf file).
Make sure you forward the port your server is using.
Don't test INTERNALLY. test EXTERNALLY - if you can, shell on to an external linux box 
and use a text based browser  - links or lynx - and test.
Don't forget that the ip is dynamic take steps to track it.

Hope this helps.

Regards, Mehmet
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Subject: [SLUG] Billion ADSL Router (BIPAC-741)
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Date: 15-06-2003 03:18


> G'day SLUGers
> 
> Does anyone here ever using BIPAC-741 from Billion?
> 
> I'm using InterNode ADSL which giving me a dynamic ip.
> I've tried so hard to configure its 'Virtual Server'
> feature to redirect any incoming HTTP from outside
> world into my tiny box of redhat 9 web server.
> 
> I can open my web server via local connection (e.g.
> http://192.168.1.10) which I supposed theres nothing
> wrong with the conf.
> 
> But if I type in the ADSL ip address, it open the
> front page of the ADSL modem configuration page, which
> is really security_risk for me.
> 
> Any comment?
> 
> 
> Phillipus.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Please Help

2003-06-14 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:34:18 +0800
"Edward Maloney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am desperately seeking the ability to record my modem data 
> transmissions (from phone line recording made w/sound board) 
> and would like to decode both originating/answer sides of data
> transmissions after call has been made. I have no way of 
> converting this .wav file to ASCII data. 

Do you mean performing speech recognition on the WAV file to produce a 
transcript of the recorded voice? If so, then this technology does not 
really exist yet. 

I do not know of an speech recognition software for Linux and even the
stuff available for windows is rather limited.

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[slug] Irritating terminations

2003-06-14 Thread Nicholas Tomlin
Hello Sluggers,

As a part time user of this Mandrake 9 distro of Linux I have a problem 
interpreting the details of a log file taken from kppp.

What is happening almost every time I log in to my ISP - tac.net.au on the 
central coast - is that I am disconnected, usually within 0.7 minutes as you 
may see in the log.

It is a plain dial up connection with no ADSL or other special facilities.

Sometimes it happens once, most usually twice on almost every log in to the 
ISP for the last few weeks, it was good for a while - before I renewed my 
subscription to the ISP for another year, and now after a few months of clean 
operation it seems to be disconnecting with the same abandon it did before. 
At that time there was a bit of static on the line, but at the moment it is 
clear as a bell, the static just seems to have shifted to my mothers place.

Anyone fill me in on what the cause of it may be?

I'm using a 56 kb external modem - acer 56k surf.

I had heard a conspiracy theory about telcos and ISPs, which when put to my 
ISP was vehemently denied, that some users had their first calls disconnected 
by the ISP so twice as many calls had to be made - good for telcos and good 
for ISP's, especially if, as it was alleged, the ISP was working on 
commission for a telco... the other extension of this is that the telco can 
detect the type of device in operation and react in accord with their profit 
motives - anybody else know of this, it certainly would seem to fit a few 
pieces of the jigsaw together.

Here is the log for this mornings effort:

Jun 15 08:47:01 localhost pppd[17861]: pppd 2.4.1 started by neast, uid 500
Jun 15 08:47:01 localhost pppd[17861]: using channel 3
Jun 15 08:47:01 localhost pppd[17861]: Using interface ppp0
Jun 15 08:47:01 localhost pppd[17861]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/tts/0
Jun 15 08:47:01 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
  ]
Jun 15 08:47:04 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
  ]
Jun 15 08:47:11 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x41 ]
Jun 15 08:47:11 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x41 ]
Jun 15 08:47:11 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x42 ]
Jun 15 08:47:11 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x42 ]
Jun 15 08:47:11 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x43 ]
Jun 15 08:47:11 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x43 ]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
  ]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x44 ]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x44 ]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1  
  ]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="neast" 
password=]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ""]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1  
 ]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x75  ]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x75  ]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [proto=0x8207] 01 65 00 04
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: Unsupported protocol 0x8207 received
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [LCP ProtRej id=0x2 82 07 01 65 00 
04]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1   ]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x45 80 fd 01 01 
00 0f 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2]
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: local  IP address 202.9.246.109
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: remote IP address 202.9.246.65
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: primary   DNS address 202.9.244.6
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: secondary DNS address 202.9.244.3
Jun 15 08:47:13 localhost pppd[17861]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 
17872)
Jun 15 08:47:14 localhost pppd[17861]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 
17872), status = 0x0
Jun 15 08:47:28 localhost pppd[17861]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 
magic=0xa2a78d1e 00 2d 0f 01]
Jun 15 08:47:28 localhost pppd[17861]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 
magic=0xb5c25f2f 00 2d 0f 01]
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]: Modem hangup
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down started (pid 
17885)
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]: Connection terminated.
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]: Connect time 0.7 minutes.
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]: Sent 87 bytes, received 70 bytes.
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]: Couldn't release PPP unit: Invalid 
argument
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]: Waiting for 1 child processes...
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]:   script /etc/ppp/ip-down, pid 17885
Jun 15 08:47:42 localhost pppd[17861]: Script /etc/

Re: [SLUG] Evolution & IMAP

2003-06-14 Thread steven





Thank you

I spent quite some time looking in all the wrong places for ways to set
this up.  Of course now Notes doesn't seem to offer its sent folder as an
option to the IMAP client.  These things always seem more difficult than
they ought to be.

Steven



Kevin Saenz replied

I thought I saw the ability to send all your sent items to the server
by modifying the send folder option.

> We have been using Lotus Notes for email for around 8 years.  Notes has a

> fairly sophisticated database replication / mail holding system which is
> especially useful for occasionally connected users.  They can prepare
> emails off line and when they connect send the mail and pick up any new
> mails.  The server mail file  and the client mail get updated to hold the

> same data.  (This is also configurable)
>
> I have converted a couple of users to Linux running Redhat 9 and they are

> using Evolution as the client.  They can read mail using IMAP, although
> they only get a local copy of new mail in a particular folder if they
open
> that folder while connected to the server.  When they send mail the
> senders copy is only stored on the particular computer they happen to be
> sitting at.  They would like it to get stored on the server as well.
>
> A work around we use at the moment is that the user bcc's themselves a
> copy and then later files that appropriately on the server.
>
> Has anyone else found this to be a problem?  I don't know if IMAP
supports
> it but it would be nice to be able to send mail via IMAP and hus via the
> central server as well as read it and then a copy would be kept on the
> server.  This is not an option in Evolution.  Does anyone have another
> solution?  I guess this is a problem with many email systems where users
> may access their mail from multiple locations or over an intermittent
> connection.
>
> Regards to all
> Steven
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Re: [SLUG] Popular Distros in Australia.

2003-06-14 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Enrique Vila wrote:

> I´m preparing my migration to Australia (not yet there) but I´m
> gathering some information about the linux world in down under.
>  
> Is there any specially popular distribution in Australia? or is it like
> in th US?

Dunno how it is in the US, but here Debian, RedHat, and Mandrake are all
pretty popular.  The odd copy of SuSE pops up, and others like Gentoo and
whatnot are seen, but the big 3 dominate.

> Do you guys are all members of ACS? or any other organization?

I'm StudIEEE, StudIEAust, StudAPESMA, but not because of my interest in
Linux.  To become an ACS member, you have to hold appropriate technical
qualifications - which I'll wager half of the people on SLUG don't have (not
necessarily a bad thing...).  In the circles I frequent, the ACS is seen as
a bit of a joke - an MS shill, and not overly interested in true state of the
art.  I think IEEE's Computer Society isn't bad, but it isn't local.


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Re: [SLUG] Popular Distros in Australia.

2003-06-14 Thread moise lim
g'day enrique :)

> I´m preparing my migration to Australia (not yet there) but I´m
> gathering some information about the linux world in down under.

:) this mailing list is certainly one good place to get info :) it doesn't 
really matter which state (or territory) u r gonna live in ... u should be 
able find a Linux Users Group similar to this one :))

> Is there any specially popular distribution in Australia? or is it like
> in th US?

others will be more expert than me as to the types of distros available ... 
matthew mentioned four of them...

but i do believe there are "made in australia" distros as well... if u look at 
the archives from the last coupla weeks i think u will find a discussion of 
oz distros

> Do you guys are all members of ACS? or any other organization?

hhhmmm i m a member of the fishing club at the local pub (drinking hole - 
place where alcoholic beverages are served) :)) does that count?? :)))

seriously.. i suspect that u will find a huge diversity of ppl on this mailing 
list... i think that one of the members of slug is a young man in his early 
teens... i suspect he is very good with python :)

matey :) u come on down under ... we'll throw another shrimp on the barbie for 
yer :) oh .. also .. crack a tinny or two when u get here ... ok?? :))

see yer :)

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Re: [SLUG] Meaning of Nonsense in s p a m

2003-06-14 Thread mlh

I've always presumed that it was some type
of cookie; in the bovious way, to validate the
email, but also if you complained to the isp
they would be able to know who complained if
the isp then showed the complaint to the
spammer.


But yeah, trying to fool filters is probably the
main purpose.

Matt


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[SLUG] Red Hat Install Problems on Laptop

2003-06-14 Thread Louis Selvon
All:

I am trying to install Red hat Linux 8.0 on Sony's PCG-Z1P Notebook.

However I am having problems creating partitions.

With Disk Druid, from the drive rectangular display, I do not even see the
current NTFS partitions from Windows XP.

Anyway I tried to create a "/boot" partition, and I get an error message:

"Could not allocate requested partitions: partitioning failed: 
Could not allocate partitions as primary partitions" ?

What is the issue here ? 

On my PC I can see the Windows partitions from Disk Druid, and can
successfully create Linux partitions ?

Should I create the recommended "/", "/boot", "/usr" etc ... using partition
magic may be ? But then will the install CDs work and skip partition part of
the install ?

Louis.


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Re: [SLUG] Popular Distros in Australia.

2003-06-14 Thread Bruce Badger
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 09:51, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> I'm StudIEEE, StudIEAust, StudAPESMA, but not because of my interest in
> Linux.  To become an ACS member, you have to hold appropriate technical
> qualifications - which I'll wager half of the people on SLUG don't have (not
> necessarily a bad thing...).  In the circles I frequent, the ACS is seen as
> a bit of a joke - an MS shill, and not overly interested in true state of the
> art.  I think IEEE's Computer Society isn't bad, but it isn't local.

A tad harsh on the ACS, I think.

In New South Wales the ACS have an open source SIG, and you don't need
to be a member to come along to the SIG meetings (but members will get
priority e.g. if there is not enough room at a meeting).

The SIG home page is here:
  http://acs.org.au/nsw/sigs/opensource/index.html

Also, the ACS can be a good place to network - i.e. find work.

All the best,
Bruce Badger
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ACS commentsRe: [SLUG] Popular Distros in Australia.

2003-06-14 Thread Terry Collins
Bruce Badger wrote:
> > ...snip 
> > In the circles I frequent, the ACS is seen as
> > a bit of a joke - an MS shill, and not overly interested in true state of the
> > art.  I think IEEE's Computer Society isn't bad, but it isn't local.
> 
> A tad harsh on the ACS, I think.

I disagree. In 20 years of IT, the question of ACS membership has only
been raised once and it is, in my experience, generally not held in high
esteem.

The ACS decided to be an elitist oganisation right from the start and as
a consequence it is largely irrelevant. 

When the formalisation of SLUG was considered, being under ACS was
considered for a mirthful microsecond.

> 
> In New South Wales the ACS have an open source SIG,

As does AUUG, which was seriously considered for the formalisation of
SLUG, but it was felt that an US & Them situation would exist from
membership of AUUG costing $100pa.

Both were also felt to be Johnny-come-lately organisations to the
question of open source and that the real reason for them taking on
board open-source was to retain members, rather than promote open
source.

I've always felt that SLUG was the best for open source, because it was
not elitest and restrictive in whom it would accept.


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Re: [SLUG] Popular Distros in Australia.

2003-06-14 Thread Jon Teh
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 10:35:22AM +1000, moise lim wrote:
> :) this mailing list is certainly one good place to get info :) it doesn't 
> really matter which state (or territory) u r gonna live in ... u should be 
> able find a Linux Users Group similar to this one :))
> 

Hrm, did I get my windows mixed up? Am I on IRC instead of a mailing
list?


;)

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[SLUG] lost menus

2003-06-14 Thread Adam Hewitt
Hi All,

I just upgraded my Sid desktop and have lost everything under the menus
in Gnome. Is something broken in the archives or have I done something
stupid??

Adam.

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Re: [SLUG] Popular Distros in Australia.

2003-06-14 Thread Mike MacCana
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Jon Teh wrote:

> Hrm, did I get my windows mixed up? Am I on IRC instead of a mailing
> list?
>
> 
> ;)

Chuckled once because of the way you spelt tongue. Chuckled a second time
when I realised `teh' was intentional as its your surname :D

Mike

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[SLUG] LILO problems

2003-06-14 Thread Geoff Howell
Hi everyone
I'm a newbie, firmly entrenched in the Microsoft way (but not liking it) so
looking to alternatives. I have installed Mandrake 9 and love it, but am
having a few difficulties. Re LILO, here's my problem:
1. installed Win2K on hda1
2. installed Linux in hdb1
3. LILO worked fine
4. reinstalled Linux on hdb1
5. LILO didn't work any more, and trashed my MBR so couldn't boot into
Windows.
6. Reinstalled Win2k
7. No LILO!
I haven't been able to get LILO installed and working since - at the moment
I don't get a LILO prompt, my computer boots straight into windows unless I
boot from a floppy, but this is a pain as I need to eject it every time I
want to boot into Windows.
My disks are arranged thus: hda1 (one partition) => windows, bootable; hdb1
(default partitions courtesy of Linux) => Mandrake 9, also bootable. I'm
attempting to install LILO on hdb1, with Linux as the default OS.
I've followed all the advice I can find on the net, and still can't seem to
get it working, so I'm missing something pretty obvious. I'd appreciate it
if someone could point me in the right direction...
Thanks in advance
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Re: [SLUG] LILO problems

2003-06-14 Thread Carl G Lewis
On Saturday 14 June 2003 15:58, Geoff Howell wrote:

> 6. Reinstalled Win2k
> 7. No LILO!
> I haven't been able to get LILO installed and working since - at the moment
> I don't get a LILO prompt, my computer boots straight into windows unless I
> boot from a floppy, but this is a pain as I need to eject it every time I
> want to boot into Windows.

Since reinstalling W2K, what have you tried to do to get lilo working?

It's been a while since I used lilo, as Redhat has used the vastly superior 
GRUB bootloader for ages. Anyway, I thought the preferred method for setting 
up dual boot machines these days was to use the W2K bootloader, and I have 
had success doing it this way in the past, eg see this page:

http://classes.csumb.edu/CST/CST434-01/world/DualBoot.html

good luck.
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Re: [SLUG] Please Help

2003-06-14 Thread Carl G Lewis

Like Erik, I'm not really sure what you want to do. If you want the best 
chance of getting help on this list (and others), check out this howto:

http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

and especially:

http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#bespecific

Have you already produced the .wav file and just want to convert it, or do you 
need assistance with making the .wav file also?

Carl. 

On Sunday 15 June 2003 03:34, Edward Maloney wrote:
> I am desperately seeking the ability to record my modem data transmissions
> (from phone line recording made w/sound board) and would like to decode
> both originating/answer sides of data transmissions after call has been
> made. I have no way of converting this .wav file to ASCII data.
>
> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>
> Thank You,
> Edward Maloney
>

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Re: [SLUG]

2003-06-14 Thread Carl G Lewis
On Sunday 08 June 2003 03:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi There,
>

> relay=c68.115.75.246.euc.wi.charter.com [68.115.75.246], reject=553 5.1.8
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> does not exist
>

My sendmail admin skills are pretty much non-existent, but I have had a 
similiar problem before. The mail relay is doing a DNS lookup on the domain 
of the sender address, and rejects it if the address cannot be found. This is 
presumably a spam prevention measure. 

In my case, I registered a domain + hostname for the box and everything worked 
fine after that. Note that it's not normal to use an IP address as part of a 
mail addy, I don't know whether the relay would do a reverse DNS lookup in 
this case.

Carl. 

PS: Please use a proper subject line in future when posting.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux in a Laptop.

2003-06-14 Thread Carl G Lewis
On Sunday 15 June 2003 06:17, Enrique Vila wrote:

> Which distribution would be more appropiate?

What are your trying to do, start a flamewar ? :-)

I have run Redhat 9 on several different Dell laptops quite successfully, but 
never on an IBM.

If you are new to GNU/Linux, choose from Redhat, Mandrake or Suse. Any of 
these really should be fine. I use Redhat, but that's only 'cause it's what I 
am used to.

You may be interested in reading:
http://www.msu.edu/~pfaffben/t30.html
http://www.jeo.net/T30/

I found these links at:
http://www.linux-laptop.net/


Carl.


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Re: [SLUG] LILO problems

2003-06-14 Thread Kevin Saenz
you could try rescue command when you insert the mandrake boot disk.
you could probably recover linux that once you have linux you could
then install lilo to install in the MBR I think the command is something
like 

lilo -M -b /dev/hda -C /etc/lilo.conf

I am not sure if I have gone overboard.

Also you could try grub seems to be a nicer boot loader.


> Hi everyone
> I'm a newbie, firmly entrenched in the Microsoft way (but not liking it) so
> looking to alternatives. I have installed Mandrake 9 and love it, but am
> having a few difficulties. Re LILO, here's my problem:
> 1. installed Win2K on hda1
> 2. installed Linux in hdb1
> 3. LILO worked fine
> 4. reinstalled Linux on hdb1
> 5. LILO didn't work any more, and trashed my MBR so couldn't boot into
> Windows.
> 6. Reinstalled Win2k
> 7. No LILO!
> I haven't been able to get LILO installed and working since - at the moment
> I don't get a LILO prompt, my computer boots straight into windows unless I
> boot from a floppy, but this is a pain as I need to eject it every time I
> want to boot into Windows.
> My disks are arranged thus: hda1 (one partition) => windows, bootable; hdb1
> (default partitions courtesy of Linux) => Mandrake 9, also bootable. I'm
> attempting to install LILO on hdb1, with Linux as the default OS.
> I've followed all the advice I can find on the net, and still can't seem to
> get it working, so I'm missing something pretty obvious. I'd appreciate it
> if someone could point me in the right direction...
> Thanks in advance
> 
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> contained a windows executableor other potentially dangerous file type.Contact the 
> system administrator for more information.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] lost menus

2003-06-14 Thread Kevin Saenz
Is this XD2 you installed?

> Hi All,
> 
> I just upgraded my Sid desktop and have lost everything under the menus
> in Gnome. Is something broken in the archives or have I done something
> stupid??
> 
> Adam.
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Re: [SLUG] LILO problems

2003-06-14 Thread Chris D.
Geoff Howell wrote:
>6. Reinstalled Win2k
>7. No LILO!

Run lilo -v


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Re: [SLUG] lost menus

2003-06-14 Thread Chris D.
Kevin Saenz wrote:
>Is this XD2 you installed?

Ximian no longer produces Debian packages.


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Re: [SLUG] lost menus

2003-06-14 Thread Kevin Saenz
Ok no prob
> Kevin Saenz wrote:
> >Is this XD2 you installed?
> 
> Ximian no longer produces Debian packages.


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