[SLUG] Linux installation day

2004-07-07 Thread Cheng Lim




Hi,

Do you have a day where installation of Linux is provided free of charge ?
Thanks

Cheng Lim
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Re: [SLUG] X11 Font?

2004-07-07 Thread Malik Jayawardena




Hi Nick,

Thanks for the reply.

We've acutally just sussed it out. Apparently FC2 has font scaling
disabled by default. All we did was add these two lines under "catalogue="
to the 
/etc/X11/fs/config and it fixed it.

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi

Thanks again,
-Mal



Nick Croft wrote:

  * Malik Jayawardena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  
Anyway I keep getting this error:

"Font not found: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-480-*-*-*-*-*-*No font 
found for GL"


  
  Mal,

Did you type this or paste it?
There appear to be 14 fields in this XLFD (X Logical Font Descriptor), where
there should be 13.


		  $ xlsfonts | grep helvetica | less

		  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--34-240-100-100-p-176-iso10646-1
		  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--34-240-100-100-p-176-iso8859-1
		  etc

I doubt whether that's due to the differences between distributions. It's
either a typo or a screw loose in the error messages of the software.

The 480 is the POINT_SIZE, (i.e 48pt). If I look for 48pt fonts here

		  $ xlsfonts | grep 480
		  -cc-song-medium-r-normal-jiantizi-48-480-75-75-c-480-gb2312.1980-0
		  -hrnethcr-grtex-bold-i-normal--50-480-75-75-p-326-iso8859-2

I get a few, but no helvetica. Maybe you need to look for a larger helvetica 
somewhere. I'll have a go as well later.

Nick

  



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Re: [SLUG] Linux installation day

2004-07-07 Thread Chris Deigan
quote(Cheng Lim);
Hi,

Do you have a day where installation of Linux is provided free of charge ?
Thanks

Cheng Lim
IT architect

Hi Cheng,

SLUG occasionaly holds days known as Installfests where people
of the general public can come and volunteers help to install
linux on their computer.

Our next installfest is to be held in the early weeks of August.
An announce will be sent out to our announce list (which can be
subscribed to at http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/announce)
as well as the main list.

Cheers,
 - Chris
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[SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-07 Thread Simon Males
I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet 
connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?

syslog:
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0 
(211.30.175.xxx).
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: Please write a subnet declaration in your 
dhcpd.con
f file for the
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: network segment to which interface eth0 is 
attached
.
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: exiting.

# more /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
auto eth2
iface eth2 inet static
address 192.168.6.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
# more /etc/dhcpd.conf
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;
subnet 192.168.6.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  range 192.168.6.10 192.168.6.20;
}
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Re: [SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-07 Thread Alexander Samad
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
 
 I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet 
 connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?
 
 syslog:
 Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0 
 (211.30.175.xxx).
 Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: Please write a subnet declaration in your 
 dhcpd.con
 f file for the
 Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: network segment to which interface eth0 is 
 attached
 .
 Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: exiting.
 
 # more /etc/network/interfaces
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback
 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet dhcp
 auto eth2
 iface eth2 inet static
 address 192.168.6.1
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 
 # more /etc/dhcpd.conf
 option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
 default-lease-time 600;
 max-lease-time 7200;
 
 subnet 192.168.6.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
   range 192.168.6.10 192.168.6.20;
 
 }
 
If its debian look in /etc/defaults/dhcp3-server 

other wise try man dhcpd

interfaces are supplied as an option


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Re: [SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-07 Thread Mike MacCana
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Alexander Samad wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
 
  I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet
  connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?
 
  syslog:
  Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0
  (211.30.175.xxx).
  Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: Please write a subnet declaration in your
  dhcpd.con
  f file for the
  Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: network segment to which interface eth0 is
  attached
  .
  Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: exiting.
 
  # more /etc/network/interfaces
  auto lo
  iface lo inet loopback
  auto eth0
  iface eth0 inet dhcp
  auto eth2
  iface eth2 inet static
  address 192.168.6.1
  netmask 255.255.255.0
 
  # more /etc/dhcpd.conf
  option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
  default-lease-time 600;
  max-lease-time 7200;
 
  subnet 192.168.6.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.6.10 192.168.6.20;
 
  }
 
 If its debian look in /etc/defaults/dhcp3-server
Red Hat and Fedora use /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd

Pity we don't just patch dhcpd to include the interfaces it'll listen on
in its config file. Then we wouldn't need these crap, extra,
distro-specific files.

Mike

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[SLUG] Linksys Network Storage Link for USB 2.0 Disk Drives

2004-07-07 Thread Richard Neal
Hai

Just saw this interesting Linux device it's a tiny NAS/samba server just
add a USB hardisk of choice..

http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-155-ProdID-NSLU2.php

cheap too

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Re: [SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-07 Thread Simon Males
Alexander Samad wrote:
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet 
connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?

syslog:
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0 
(211.30.175.xxx).
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: Please write a subnet declaration in your 
dhcpd.con
f file for the
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: network segment to which interface eth0 is 
attached
.
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: exiting.

# more /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
auto eth2
iface eth2 inet static
   address 192.168.6.1
   netmask 255.255.255.0
# more /etc/dhcpd.conf
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;
subnet 192.168.6.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
 range 192.168.6.10 192.168.6.20;
}
If its debian look in /etc/defaults/dhcp3-server 

other wise try man dhcpd
interfaces are supplied as an option
I think I am using a different version of dhcp (debian), as it is 
responding to /etc/defaults/dhcp, now it is basically asking me the same 
thing.

Jul  7 20:21:24 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth2 (0.0.0.0).
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Re: [SLUG] Linksys Network Storage Link for USB 2.0 Disk Drives

2004-07-07 Thread Stuart Guthrie
Looks good. I wonder what the community will make this one do? If only
they had a linux brand mark on the front 'Powered By The Penguin'
perhaps. Something like what Cyclades do on their gear. Might raise even
more awareness of OSS and it's ubiquity.

Stuart

From the article:

Fans of hacking Linksys' Open Source based WRT54G router  will be happy
to know that the company has presented you with another opportunity in
the NSL. If you browse the included CD, you'll find a folder that
contains original source for the SnapGear Embedded Linux that runs the
NSL, plus source files for the various modified Linux modules used in
the product.

Just as Linksys' venerable BEFSR41 Linky router marked the start of
easy, affordable Internet sharing for the masses, I predict the NSLU2
will do the same for NAS. I haven't been this enthused about a product
in a long time, let alone one from the networking equivalent of the
Borg. But I have to say that the NSLU2 has restored my faith in Linksys'
ability to shake the industry up a bit.

Yes, I know rolling your own SAMBA server can be even cheaper if you
happen to be handy with Linux, but for about $125 (using your own spare
drive and a cheap USB 2.0 enclosure), why not just save yourself some
time and keep your blood pressure where it should be?


Stuart



On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 23:47, Richard Neal wrote:
 Hai
 
 Just saw this interesting Linux device it's a tiny NAS/samba server just
 add a USB hardisk of choice..
 
 http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-155-ProdID-NSLU2.php
 
 cheap too
 
 Regards
 Richard Neal
 
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 to an audience in the market square, to hear their grievances. He didn't
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 a lot, and everyone felt better about it at least until they got home. This
 is politics.
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[SLUG] port trunking

2004-07-07 Thread Dean Hamstead
anyone got a link of somewhere to start for port trunking
we have all cisco gear on the server farm, and id like to make
some server - switch trunks (gigabit is an option, but seeing as we 
have lots of free 100mbps ports and multiple unused 100mbs cards. say 
hello dell servers)

Ideas? Links?
Dean
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Re: [SLUG] port trunking

2004-07-07 Thread DaZZa
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Dean Hamstead wrote:

 anyone got a link of somewhere to start for port trunking
 we have all cisco gear on the server farm, and id like to make
 some server - switch trunks (gigabit is an option, but seeing as we
 have lots of free 100mbps ports and multiple unused 100mbs cards. say
 hello dell servers)

 Ideas? Links?

www.cisco.com

Trunking is dead easy on Cisco switches, provided the OS running on the
switch is older than something like version 11.

I suspect what you want is not, however, what Cisco calls trunking.
Trunking in the Cisco world is a means of managing VLAN's - what you
want is known as etherchanneling or an etherchannel - it's also easy
to setup from the switch side of things, but I don't know how you'd go at
the server end.

DaZZa

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Re: [SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-07 Thread Alexander Samad
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 12:14:23AM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
 
 Alexander Samad wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
 
 I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet 
 connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?
 
  snip
 }
 
 
 If its debian look in /etc/defaults/dhcp3-server 
 
 other wise try man dhcpd
 
 interfaces are supplied as an option
 

run this dpkg -l 'dhcp*' | grep ii

this is the output I get 
ii  dhcp3-client   3.0+3.0.1rc14- DHCP Client
ii  dhcp3-common   3.0+3.0.1rc14- Common files used by all the dhcp3*
packages
ii  dhcp3-server   3.0+3.0.1rc14- DHCP server for automatic IP address
assignm

this is a copy of /etc/default/dhcp3-server
#   Separate multiple interfaces with spaces, e.g. eth0 eth1.
INTERFACES=br0 eth3 eth4



 
 I think I am using a different version of dhcp (debian), as it is 
 responding to /etc/defaults/dhcp, now it is basically asking me the same 
 thing.
 
 Jul  7 20:21:24 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth2 (0.0.0.0).
 
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Re: [SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-07 Thread James Gray
Simon Males wrote:
I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet 
connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?

syslog:
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0 
(211.30.175.xxx).
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: Please write a subnet declaration in your 
dhcpd.con
f file for the
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: network segment to which interface eth0 is 
attached
.
Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: exiting.

# more /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
auto eth2
iface eth2 inet static
address 192.168.6.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
# more /etc/dhcpd.conf
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;
subnet 192.168.6.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  range 192.168.6.10 192.168.6.20;
}
I had a similar problem on my triple interface router/firewall box.  It 
wants a declaration for each interface, but I only provide DHCP on the 
internal one.  The way I got around it was to create two empty 
sections for the DMZ and Internet interface and configured the internal 
one how I wanted.  Then I just added some iptables rules to drop DHCP 
requests/replies on the DMZ and Internet interfaces.  Here's a sanitized 
version of my config file:

cat /etc/dhcpd.conf
# dhcpd.conf
#
# Configuration file for ISC dhcpd
#
# option definitions common to all supported networks...
option domain-name mydomain.foo.bar;
default-lease-time 7200;
max-lease-time 14400;
# Internal network - allocate addresses between .100-150
subnet 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option ntp-servers 10.0.0.1;
option time-servers 10.0.0.1;
range 10.0.0.100 10.0.0.150;
option domain-name-servers 10.0.0.1;
option domain-name mydomain.foo.bar;
option routers 10.0.0.1;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 10.0.0.255;
}
# Internet interface - EMPTY, we dont provide DHCP!
subnet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.252 {
  deny unknown-clients;
  deny booting;
}
# DMZ interface - EMPTY, we dont provide DHCP!
subnet 1.2.4.5 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
  deny unknown-clients;
  deny booting;
}
### SNIPPED the static IP group ###
 END OF /etc/dhcpd.conf 
Then just block UDP+TCP ports 67/68 on the interfaces you DONT want to 
use DHCP.

HTH
Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] port trunking

2004-07-07 Thread Dean Hamstead
maybe i nee to clarrify
i want to connect 2 or more (lets say n) number
of network connections from a single server to
a single switch and utilise them all for sending
data. i understand that recieveing may be limited
but sending can use all via some fancy mac spoofing.
i also believe that linux (and others) can pretend
to be a switch (etherchanel or whatever) and thus
have n x 100mbps throughput full duplex
Dean
DaZZa wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Dean Hamstead wrote:

anyone got a link of somewhere to start for port trunking
we have all cisco gear on the server farm, and id like to make
some server - switch trunks (gigabit is an option, but seeing as we
have lots of free 100mbps ports and multiple unused 100mbs cards. say
hello dell servers)
Ideas? Links?

www.cisco.com
Trunking is dead easy on Cisco switches, provided the OS running on the
switch is older than something like version 11.
I suspect what you want is not, however, what Cisco calls trunking.
Trunking in the Cisco world is a means of managing VLAN's - what you
want is known as etherchanneling or an etherchannel - it's also easy
to setup from the switch side of things, but I don't know how you'd go at
the server end.
DaZZa

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[SLUG] Noconas

2004-07-07 Thread Malik Jayawardena




G'day,

Does anyone know if the Linux' IA64 Kernel will run with Noconas? 
Windoze XP 64-bit doesn't seem to at the moment.. (http://www.2cpu.com)

Cheers,
-Mal

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Re: [SLUG] Noconas

2004-07-07 Thread Malik Jayawardena




Thanks mate.

Cheers,
-Mal

Dion wrote:
Malik
Jayawardena wrote:
  
  
  G'day,


Does anyone know if the Linux' IA64 Kernel will run with Noconas?

Windoze XP 64-bit doesn't seem to at the moment.. (http://www.2cpu.com)


Cheers,

-Mal


  
The IA-64 Kernel will not. IA-64 is for the Itanium series only.
  
  
The X86-64 kernel might. I remember vaguely reading something in a
2.6.recentish chagelog that some of the X86-extended features or
whatever intel calls it had surfaced in the kernel source.
  
  
Maybe have a look at the change log of some of the recent 2.6.x
kernels. Look for references to EM64T and the Nocona.
  
Also look for email addresses @intel as they were doing quite a bit of
submitting.
  
  
Cheers.
  
D.
  
  
  
  



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Re: [SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-07 Thread Alexander Samad
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 10:44:18AM +1000, James Gray wrote:
 Simon Males wrote:
 
 I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet 
 connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?
 
 syslog:
 Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0 
 (211.30.175.xxx).
 Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: Please write a subnet declaration in your 
 dhcpd.con
 f file for the
 Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: network segment to which interface eth0 is 
 attached
 .
 Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: exiting.
 
 # more /etc/network/interfaces
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback
 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet dhcp
 auto eth2
 iface eth2 inet static
 address 192.168.6.1
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 
 # more /etc/dhcpd.conf
 option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
 default-lease-time 600;
 max-lease-time 7200;
 
 subnet 192.168.6.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
   range 192.168.6.10 192.168.6.20;
 
 }
 
 I had a similar problem on my triple interface router/firewall box.  It 
 wants a declaration for each interface, but I only provide DHCP on the 

strange my doesn't especially after I set the interface to listen on

 internal one.  The way I got around it was to create two empty 
 sections for the DMZ and Internet interface and configured the internal 
 one how I wanted.  Then I just added some iptables rules to drop DHCP 
 requests/replies on the DMZ and Internet interfaces.  Here's a sanitized 
 version of my config file:
 
 cat /etc/dhcpd.conf
 
 # dhcpd.conf
 #
 # Configuration file for ISC dhcpd
 #
 
 # option definitions common to all supported networks...
 option domain-name mydomain.foo.bar;
 default-lease-time 7200;
 max-lease-time 14400;
 
 # Internal network - allocate addresses between .100-150
 subnet 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
 option ntp-servers 10.0.0.1;
 option time-servers 10.0.0.1;
 range 10.0.0.100 10.0.0.150;
 option domain-name-servers 10.0.0.1;
 option domain-name mydomain.foo.bar;
 option routers 10.0.0.1;
 option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
 option broadcast-address 10.0.0.255;
 }
 
 # Internet interface - EMPTY, we dont provide DHCP!
 subnet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.252 {
   deny unknown-clients;
   deny booting;
 }
 
 # DMZ interface - EMPTY, we dont provide DHCP!
 subnet 1.2.4.5 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
   deny unknown-clients;
   deny booting;
 }
 
 ### SNIPPED the static IP group ###
 
  END OF /etc/dhcpd.conf 
 
 Then just block UDP+TCP ports 67/68 on the interfaces you DONT want to 
 use DHCP.
 
 HTH
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: [SLUG] port trunking

2004-07-07 Thread Alexander Samad
I think this is called bonding in the linux work

trunking is the 802.11q (tagging)

side note you could run trunking on top of bonding !

A

On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 11:11:03AM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
 maybe i nee to clarrify
 i want to connect 2 or more (lets say n) number
 of network connections from a single server to
 a single switch and utilise them all for sending
 data. i understand that recieveing may be limited
 but sending can use all via some fancy mac spoofing.
 i also believe that linux (and others) can pretend
 to be a switch (etherchanel or whatever) and thus
 have n x 100mbps throughput full duplex
 
 
 Dean
 
 DaZZa wrote:
 
 On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Dean Hamstead wrote:
 
 
 anyone got a link of somewhere to start for port trunking
 we have all cisco gear on the server farm, and id like to make
 some server - switch trunks (gigabit is an option, but seeing as we
 have lots of free 100mbps ports and multiple unused 100mbs cards. say
 hello dell servers)
 
 Ideas? Links?
 
 
 www.cisco.com
 
 Trunking is dead easy on Cisco switches, provided the OS running on the
 switch is older than something like version 11.
 
 I suspect what you want is not, however, what Cisco calls trunking.
 Trunking in the Cisco world is a means of managing VLAN's - what you
 want is known as etherchanneling or an etherchannel - it's also easy
 to setup from the switch side of things, but I don't know how you'd go at
 the server end.
 
 DaZZa
 
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-07 Thread James Gray
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:12 pm, Alexander Samad wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 10:44:18AM +1000, James Gray wrote:
  Simon Males wrote:
  I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet
  connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?
  
  syslog:
  Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0
  (211.30.175.xxx).
  Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: Please write a subnet declaration in your
  dhcpd.con
  f file for the
  Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: network segment to which interface eth0
   is attached
  .
  Jul  7 18:18:01 erupt dhcpd: exiting.
  
  # more /etc/network/interfaces
  auto lo
  iface lo inet loopback
  auto eth0
  iface eth0 inet dhcp
  auto eth2
  iface eth2 inet static
  address 192.168.6.1
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  
  # more /etc/dhcpd.conf
  option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
  default-lease-time 600;
  max-lease-time 7200;
  
  subnet 192.168.6.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.6.10 192.168.6.20;
  
  }
 
  I had a similar problem on my triple interface router/firewall box.  It
  wants a declaration for each interface, but I only provide DHCP on the

 strange my doesn't especially after I set the interface to listen on

I don't think I'm specifying a particular interface - it's the ISC DHCP 2.x 
daemon I'm using on a Debian stable system.  I'm also using the stoxk init 
script.  From what I've gathered on this thread, it seems the liston on 
only th[is|ese] interfaces? logic was included with DHCPD3.  *shrug*

Cheers,

James
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[SLUG] Recommendation for a good CSS book

2004-07-07 Thread Stuart Guthrie
I'm looking for a good book on CSS. I was wondering if anyone had a fav.
they might be able to recommend.

Stuart

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Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a good CSS book

2004-07-07 Thread Chris Deigan
quote(Stuart Guthrie);
I'm looking for a good book on CSS. I was wondering if anyone had a fav.
they might be able to recommend.

My recomendation would be to look at other's CSS, find the tricks,
and then nearly every CSS style has a good description on w3schools
website. (Try google)

Cheers,
 - Chris
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Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a good CSS book

2004-07-07 Thread Brad Kowalczyk
Stuart Guthrie wrote:
I'm looking for a good book on CSS. I was wondering if anyone had a fav.
they might be able to recommend.
Stuart
 

I've found that just a copy of the W3C CSS spec 
(http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/#specs) combined with poking about in other 
peoples CSS and playing about with ideas yourself is sufficient. Also 
check out http://www.csszengarden.com/ for some cool CSS designs base on 
the same HTML, pretty cool what can be achieved.
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