[SLUG] Dual Boot (Windows/FC)

2005-05-31 Thread Edwin Humphries
I remember reading an excellent document some months ago on how to 
install FC2 onto a Windows box without trashing the boot sector so that 
Windows wouldn't boot. It talked about interrogating the boot sector to 
get some configuration infomration, then feeding that into anaconda 
during the FC2 install. It was quite long, but with its help, I was 
successful.


But I've lost the document. Does anyone know it, and have a URL?

--
Regards,
Edwin Humphries
Mobile: 0419 233 051
Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd
P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533
Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285
Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299
Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au

***
This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and
may contain confidential or privileged information. If you
are not a named addressee please delete the message and
notify the sender.
***
--
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


Re: [SLUG] Dual Boot (Windows/FC)

2005-05-31 Thread Billy Kwong
http://lwn.net/Articles/86835/

On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 16:15 +1000, Edwin Humphries wrote:
 I remember reading an excellent document some months ago on how to 
 install FC2 onto a Windows box without trashing the boot sector so that 
 Windows wouldn't boot. It talked about interrogating the boot sector to 
 get some configuration infomration, then feeding that into anaconda 
 during the FC2 install. It was quite long, but with its help, I was 
 successful.
 
 But I've lost the document. Does anyone know it, and have a URL?
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Edwin Humphries
 Mobile: 0419 233 051
 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd
 P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533
 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285
 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299
 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au
 
 ***
 This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and
 may contain confidential or privileged information. If you
 are not a named addressee please delete the message and
 notify the sender.
 ***
-- 
Hi, I'm the system administrator. If you see me running, *SAVE YOUR
WORK*.
- anonymous, slashdot.org

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


[SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread Howard Lowndes
I have a routine that runs an rsync to sync data from a Linux fs to a 
vfat fs which I have smbmounted on a linux fs.


It runs quite happily for a while, then stalls.

the rsync command I an using is:
rsync -vrtL --delete /home/ext3fs /home/vfatfs

What is the best way to find out why it might be stalling?  I know 
where, but why.


--
Howard.
LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au
--
When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux;
When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft.
--
Flatter government, not fatter government;
Get rid of the Australian states.
begin:vcard
fn:Howard Lowndes
n:Lowndes;Howard
org:LANNet Computing Associates
adr:;;PO Box 1174;Lavington;NSW;2641;Australia
email;internet:howard [AT] lowndes [DOT] name
tel;work:02 6040 0222
tel;fax:02 6040 0222
tel;cell:0419 464 430
note:If you want to phone me, you will need to ensure that your phone presents Caller ID, or use access code 9.
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
url:http://www.lannet.com.au
version:2.1
end:vcard

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread David
 I have a routine that runs an rsync to sync data from a Linux fs to a
 vfat fs which I have smbmounted on a linux fs.

 It runs quite happily for a while, then stalls.

 the rsync command I an using is:
 rsync -vrtL --delete /home/ext3fs /home/vfatfs

 What is the best way to find out why it might be stalling?  I know
 where, but why.



I've had a lot of trouble with rsync stalling. I've managed to cure it
without understanding the reasons. Try adding --bwlimit=

I've played with different values for , but perhaps you could try this:

$rsync -vrtL --bwlimit=2000 --delete /home/ext3fs /home/vfatfs

I have no idea what this is about, and if anyone can tell me I'd be
curious to know. I started of with --bwlimit=25 and kept increasing the
value until I wasn't game to go any further. Is that scientific?


David.

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


Re: [SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread Ryan Verner
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 22:28 +1000, David wrote:
  I have a routine that runs an rsync to sync data from a Linux fs to a
  vfat fs which I have smbmounted on a linux fs.
 
  It runs quite happily for a while, then stalls.
 
  the rsync command I an using is:
  rsync -vrtL --delete /home/ext3fs /home/vfatfs
 
  What is the best way to find out why it might be stalling?  I know
  where, but why.
 
 
 
 I've had a lot of trouble with rsync stalling. I've managed to cure it
 without understanding the reasons. Try adding --bwlimit=

Sounds like packet shaping somewhere is causing packet loss, which rsync
tends not to handle very well.

R

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


Re: [SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread Howard Lowndes



Ryan Verner wrote:

On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 22:28 +1000, David wrote:


I have a routine that runs an rsync to sync data from a Linux fs to a
vfat fs which I have smbmounted on a linux fs.

It runs quite happily for a while, then stalls.

the rsync command I an using is:
rsync -vrtL --delete /home/ext3fs /home/vfatfs

What is the best way to find out why it might be stalling?  I know
where, but why.




I've had a lot of trouble with rsync stalling. I've managed to cure it
without understanding the reasons. Try adding --bwlimit=



Sounds like packet shaping somewhere is causing packet loss, which rsync
tends not to handle very well.


I wouldn't be expecting packet shaping on a LAN.

--
Howard.
LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au
--
When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux;
When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft.
--
Flatter government, not fatter government;
Get rid of the Australian states.
begin:vcard
fn:Howard Lowndes
n:Lowndes;Howard
org:LANNet Computing Associates
adr:;;PO Box 1174;Lavington;NSW;2641;Australia
email;internet:howard [AT] lowndes [DOT] name
tel;work:02 6040 0222
tel;fax:02 6040 0222
tel;cell:0419 464 430
note:If you want to phone me, you will need to ensure that your phone presents Caller ID, or use access code 9.
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
url:http://www.lannet.com.au
version:2.1
end:vcard

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Telephone recording?

2005-05-31 Thread Angus Lees
At Fri, 27 May 2005 13:04:21 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 What's the most sensible and reliable way to record a phone conversation,
 assuming a standard phone, using Free Software (and probably a bit of
 hardware)?

You can get phone audio into a computer by using one of those old
voice-modems with the right AT commands (often not full-duplex, but
that isn't a problem here), or a telephony card with an FXO port.
Whether something like asterisk will make the software side easier or
not, I'll leave as an exercise for the reader -- but even using
asterisk for this step wouldn't require anyone to use VoIP, assuming
you had a PSTN double-adaptor thingy at your end.

-- 
 - Gus

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


RE: [SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread Roger Barnes
  Ryan Verner wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 22:28 +1000, David wrote:
  
 I have a routine that runs an rsync to sync data from a 
 Linux fs to a 
 vfat fs which I have smbmounted on a linux fs.
 
 It runs quite happily for a while, then stalls.
 
 the rsync command I an using is:
 rsync -vrtL --delete /home/ext3fs /home/vfatfs
 
 What is the best way to find out why it might be stalling?  I know 
 where, but why.
 
 
 
 I've had a lot of trouble with rsync stalling. I've managed 
 to cure it 
 without understanding the reasons. Try adding --bwlimit=
  
  
  Sounds like packet shaping somewhere is causing packet loss, which 
  rsync tends not to handle very well.
 
 I wouldn't be expecting packet shaping on a LAN.

Depends how you think about MTU. :)

I had problems copying any large file (rsync or otherwise) in the past because 
the MTU was set too high for my crappy NIC.  It could be a long shot, but 
something to think about.  Try copying a big file using cp and see if it has 
any trouble.  Check what ifconfig says about packet counts before and after 
reproducing the problem.  Of course, the other end of the pipe/s may be the 
problem.

- Rog

--
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


Re: [SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread David
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:00:50AM +1000, Roger Barnes wrote:
   Ryan Verner wrote:
   On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 22:28 +1000, David wrote:
   
  I have a routine that runs an rsync to sync data from a 
  Linux fs to a 
  vfat fs which I have smbmounted on a linux fs.
  
  It runs quite happily for a while, then stalls.
  
  the rsync command I an using is:
  rsync -vrtL --delete /home/ext3fs /home/vfatfs
  
  What is the best way to find out why it might be stalling?  I know 
  where, but why.
  
  
  
  I've had a lot of trouble with rsync stalling. I've managed 
  to cure it 
  without understanding the reasons. Try adding --bwlimit=
   
   
   Sounds like packet shaping somewhere is causing packet loss, which 
   rsync tends not to handle very well.
  
  I wouldn't be expecting packet shaping on a LAN.
 
 Depends how you think about MTU. :)
 
 I had problems copying any large file (rsync or otherwise) in the past 
 because the MTU was set too high for my crappy NIC.  It could be a long shot, 
 but something to think about.  Try copying a big file using cp and see if it 
 has any trouble.  Check what ifconfig says about packet counts before and 
 after reproducing the problem.  Of course, the other end of the pipe/s may be 
 the problem.
 
 - Rog



This is on a LAN, and I'm able to scp large files  8Mb without any
problems, so I doubt that it's any sort of shaping problem. When I first
had the problem I did some googling and apparently we're not the only ones
with the problem, but there were no suggestions as to cause.

David.
-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


[SLUG] Re: Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:29:40AM +1000, David wrote:
 This is on a LAN, and I'm able to scp large files  8Mb without any
 problems, so I doubt that it's any sort of shaping problem. When I first
 had the problem I did some googling and apparently we're not the only ones
 with the problem, but there were no suggestions as to cause.

I've had the exact same problem you're having (down to scp OK, rsync not)
and clamping my MTU to 950 solved it.  In this case, I had a Cisco box in
between which *may* have been the cause, but I suspect the problem is more
likely to be a bodgy NIC in the mix somewhere.

For some reason, SSH/SCP doesn't seem to produce packets that are quite so
big, but rsync seems to just lurve producing network-choking packets.

- Matt


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Re: Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread David
 On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:29:40AM +1000, David wrote:
 This is on a LAN, and I'm able to scp large files  8Mb without any
 problems, so I doubt that it's any sort of shaping problem. When I first
 had the problem I did some googling and apparently we're not the only
 ones
 with the problem, but there were no suggestions as to cause.

 I've had the exact same problem you're having (down to scp OK, rsync not)
 and clamping my MTU to 950 solved it.  In this case, I had a Cisco box in
 between which *may* have been the cause, but I suspect the problem is more
 likely to be a bodgy NIC in the mix somewhere.

 For some reason, SSH/SCP doesn't seem to produce packets that are quite so
 big, but rsync seems to just lurve producing network-choking packets.



Interesting... so why does --bwlimit solve the problem? surely the packets
are still the same? Am I showing my ignorance of networks?

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


[SLUG] Re: Re: Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 10:28:36AM +1000, David wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:29:40AM +1000, David wrote:
  This is on a LAN, and I'm able to scp large files  8Mb without any
  problems, so I doubt that it's any sort of shaping problem. When I first
  had the problem I did some googling and apparently we're not the only
  ones
  with the problem, but there were no suggestions as to cause.
 
  I've had the exact same problem you're having (down to scp OK, rsync not)
  and clamping my MTU to 950 solved it.  In this case, I had a Cisco box in
  between which *may* have been the cause, but I suspect the problem is more
  likely to be a bodgy NIC in the mix somewhere.
 
  For some reason, SSH/SCP doesn't seem to produce packets that are quite so
  big, but rsync seems to just lurve producing network-choking packets.
 
 Interesting... so why does --bwlimit solve the problem? surely the packets
 are still the same? Am I showing my ignorance of networks?

Now there's a difference.  --bwlimit didn't work for me.  Perhaps you don't
have such bong network hardware that it needs such major restrictions as I
had to apply.

- Matt


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Dual Boot (Windows/FC)

2005-05-31 Thread Mike MacCana

Edwin Humphries wrote:

I remember reading an excellent document some months ago on how to 
install FC2 onto a Windows box without trashing the boot sector so 
that Windows wouldn't boot. It talked about interrogating the boot 
sector to get some configuration infomration, then feeding that into 
anaconda during the FC2 install. It was quite long, but with its help, 
I was successful.


But I've lost the document. Does anyone know it, and have a URL?


Or you could just use FC3.

The issue with FC2 was the kernel changed the format for how it reports 
partitions, and Windows XP (as opposed to any previous version of 
Windows) wants the partitions written to in a different format. I 
believe the issue is fixed now.


Mike
--
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


Re: [SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-05-31 Thread Ryan Verner
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 07:01 +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
 
 Ryan Verner wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 22:28 +1000, David wrote:
  
 I have a routine that runs an rsync to sync data from a Linux fs to a
 vfat fs which I have smbmounted on a linux fs.
 
 It runs quite happily for a while, then stalls.
 
 the rsync command I an using is:
 rsync -vrtL --delete /home/ext3fs /home/vfatfs
 
 What is the best way to find out why it might be stalling?  I know
 where, but why.
 
 
 
 I've had a lot of trouble with rsync stalling. I've managed to cure it
 without understanding the reasons. Try adding --bwlimit=
  
  
  Sounds like packet shaping somewhere is causing packet loss, which rsync
  tends not to handle very well.
 
 I wouldn't be expecting packet shaping on a LAN.

Right, but you might still be getting packet loss.  I just replaced a
switch two days ago exactly because of that, and I've had Realtek cards
do odd things under certain kernels.

Lowering the MTU, as somebody else mentioned, tends to make packet loss
more tolerable.

Of course, might not be this at all - just a stab in the dark based from
lots of previous similar experiences :)

R

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


[SLUG] Copyright and FTA seminars -- Aus. Copyright Council

2005-05-31 Thread Matt Moor

Hi All,

The following was sent to me at work, and it's probably of interest to 
some/all of you:


Has the Free Trade Agreement given you a bad dose of copyfright?

Many people are worried about the effect of the Australia US Free Trade 
Agreement (AUSFTA) on copyright. Does it affect the duration of 
copyright? What about out-of-copyright material? And is it true that 
some things that weren t copyright issues before   such as playing a 
pirated CD or DVD   are now copyright infringements?


These and other changes in the law will be covered in the Australian 
Copyright Council s 2005 copyright seminar program.


* Copyright Essentials: gives a thorough introduction to copyright in 
Australia now the AUSFTA is in force. If you want to know what copyright 
protects, who owns copyright, and how long it lasts, this is the session 
for you.


* Moral Rights: were introduced in Australia in 2001. This year s 
session includes the introduction of moral rights for performers as a 
result of the AUSFTA, and other key issues.


* Recent Developments: is for people already familiar with copyright who 
want to bring themselves up to speed with the latest developments. This 
short, sharp seminar covers the AUSFTA amendments as well as proposals 
for changing government ownership of copyright. You ll also find out 
what s been happening in important cases such as Kazaa.


These sessions being run in: * Sydney:  6 June, * Adelaide: 5 September, 
* Brisbane: 17 October, * Perth: 1 August


Expand your knowledge and nip copyfright in the bud, for further
details please visit: http://www.copyright.org.au/training


Australian Copyright Council, PO Box 1986, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012.  
TEL: 02 9699 3247, FAX: 02 9698 3536, WEB: www.copyright.org.au



Regards,

Matt Moor
--
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html


[SLUG] Root software raid

2005-05-31 Thread Michael Kraus
G'day...

I'm wanting to create a software raid on one of my servers, for the root
partition (FC3 minimal install). However, I foolishly installed it using
LVM rather than just ext3. Is there hope for me to be able to migrate
the root filesystem into a software raid? 
 
Thanks!

(Apologies for extended sig applied by mail server.)

Regards,
Michael Kraus
Software Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Direct Line 02 8306 0007




Wild Technology Pty Ltd , ABN 98 091 470 692
Sales - Ground Floor, 265/8 Lachlan Street, Waterloo NSW 2017
Admin - Level 4 Tiara, 306/9 Crystal Street, Waterloo NSW 2017
Telephone 1300-13-9453 |  Facsimile 1300-88-9453
http://www.wildtechnology.net
DISCLAIMER  CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:  The information contained in this email 
message and any attachments may be confidential information and may also be the 
subject of client legal - legal professional privilege. If you are not the 
intended recipient, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this 
material is unauthorised and prohibited.   This email and any attachments are 
also subject to copyright.  No part of them may be reproduced, adapted or 
transmitted without the written permission of the copyright owner.  If you have 
received this email in error, please immediately advise the sender by return 
email and delete the message from your system.


--
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html