Re: [SLUG] Kernel Panic since USN-199-1
> > This is a great report, you should definitely file a bug. :-) > > Cool.where? Does Ubuntu/Kubuntu have a Bugzilla site or something? Whoa, dude: bugzilla.ubuntu.com - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New Zealand http://linux.conf.au/ Push the envelope, or push the daisies. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Kernel Panic since USN-199-1
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 08:47, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > 2. Load enough programs to *almost* fill ram (ie, programs + cache + > > buffer is almost 1GB) with no swap in use. > > So free(1) definitely shows that you have swap available? Yep - (/dev/sda6) all 4GB of it and 0K in use. > > Anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Should I raise a bug?? > > This is a great report, you should definitely file a bug. :-) Cool.where? Does Ubuntu/Kubuntu have a Bugzilla site or something? Cheers, James -- Honk if you are against noise pollution! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sydney Open Solaris User Group - Meeting Oct 17th 6:30pm
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 06:40:58AM +1000, Jamie Honan wrote: > I have a problem with the original 'kissed a girl' posting. > > Superficially it looks amusing. In fact it is an ad hominem > attack on Dave Miller. I thought it was hilarious. It never occurred to me think that it was meant in a mean way, or that Dave Miller took at as such. After seeing Bryan's talk last night I'm even more sure that this was the case! A great, humourous presenter who really knows his stuff. > Rather than reply to Dave's detailed points, he attempts to ridicule > him. I saw it as an _acknowledgement_ that Dave had excellent points by admitting he had no substantive comeback. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > iinet do ADSL2+ home/SHO connections and they have a 20mb/s connection. Only if you're on an iinet DSLAM enabled exchange - which is the same as internode - if you're lucky enough to be on one of the exchanges, then you're laughing. And the speed is only 12 meg down, not 20. According to their webpage, anyway. iinet have a _lot_ more exchanges in the planning stage that internode do, though. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP
iinet do ADSL2+ home/SHO connections and they have a 20mb/s connection. I use TPG ( www.tpg.com.au) with a 1.5Mb/s dowb speed ( had 280KB/s up on lucky days). There email spam filtering is the best Ive seen, I have yet to get "any" spam accept the stuff I get from slug's email server. I dont recomend iprimus, even though I was a customer for a long time, mainly because they seem to be a "spam magnet" (or there selling your details who can tell). Richard Neal We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde Quoting Juergen Busam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi! > > Can anyone recommend a reliable ISP (with good Overseas connection) with > at least the possibility to have 3M down and 640 K Up, or even better a > symmetric connection with 3M down and up? > > regards > > Juergen > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Using Debian Alien
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 07:54 +1000, Richard Hayes wrote: > Dear list, > > I found a Mandrake RPM I wanted to use and since it was a new project I > downloaded a Mandrake CD 10.1 and installed it on an old box. > > So I was have been swimming in RPM Dependancy custard for many hours. urpmi can probably just solve that problem for you. Might be easier. > So, rather than fight with Mandrake I throught I would use Debian with Alien. > > I used apt-get to install Alien but I could not find any instruction for > using > Alien I usually invoke it as 'alien -d -c -k', which will get you a suitable deb file. It won't help however, since your aliened deb package will be bereft of the dependency information you'd need to get it to work. James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] htaccess control for 200 users ?
I have Apache 1.3x running a number of vhosts, some have some htaccess control using maybe 10 or 15 unique usernames; for one vhost, I'm looking at setting a 'closed shop' accessible only to pre-defined existing customers, like, say, oscommerce behind htaccess authentication; is that a 'good idea' to look at htaccess authentication for around 200 unique user/password ? or ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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[SLUG] ubuntu shared folders not working
trying to get file sharing going on Ubuntu Hoary Samba The gui file sharing manager keeps crashing. have tried remove reinstall samba with no luck. Any ideas? -- Linley Caetan www.lovelsretreat.com Phone: 95211226 Mobile: 0409 831 404 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Finding which device has a particular Mac address
> 08:44:49.639692 (NOV-ETHII) .00:00:c9:05:e5:cd.4013 > > .ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff.0452:ipx-sap-nearest-req FileServer > > It would appear to be a PC with IPX protocol installed. But which one? I > need a reverse Arp, but RARP as I understand it is a protocol for giving > an IP address to something like a diskless node on boot up. I don't know > if it can be used to ask the machine with the given Mac to confess it's IP. Try arp(1) as a starting point. - Jeff -- EuroOSCON: October 17th-20thhttp://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/ man i rule boc: how do you rule? with authority -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Software Idea Patents - another nudge
SLUGgers, if you think software idea patents are a bad thing, you can do a little something to help, at least in Europe. There is a poll to find the "European of the Year" which is open to anyone, no matter where they live. Some of the candidates have worked to keep software idea patents out of Europe. If right-minded people win, it will help raise the "No Software Patents" profile. To this end, nosoftwarepatents.com have set up a page suggesting how you might vote: http://tinyurl.com/byo7j You might like to spread the word to other groups too! All the best Bruce -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.org/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Finding which device has a particular Mac address
Sluggers, Does anyone know of a Linux network tool which will allow me to find out which device on my network is responsible for outputting the following packets as captured by "tcpdump -i eth0"? 08:44:49.639692 (NOV-ETHII) .00:00:c9:05:e5:cd.4013 > .ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff.0452:ipx-sap-nearest-req FileServer It would appear to be a PC with IPX protocol installed. But which one? I need a reverse Arp, but RARP as I understand it is a protocol for giving an IP address to something like a diskless node on boot up. I don't know if it can be used to ask the machine with the given Mac to confess it's IP. TIA's Pete. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Kernel Panic since USN-199-1
> 2. Load enough programs to *almost* fill ram (ie, programs + cache + buffer is >almost 1GB) with no swap in use. So free(1) definitely shows that you have swap available? > Anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Should I raise a bug?? This is a great report, you should definitely file a bug. :-) - Jeff -- Ubuntu USA & Europe Tour: Oct-Nov 2005http://wiki.ubuntu.com/3BT "A computer with a bullet in it is just a paperweight, A map with a bullet in it is still a map." - Maj. Keith Hauk -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Kernel Panic since USN-199-1
Hi All,
Some may have seen my Breezy upgrade success story (on the Kubuntu list). The
reality seems that the stability issue under Hoary that prompted the upgrade
in the first place is still there. I've narrowed down the start of the
problem to the kernel update made in response to USN-199-1 (Ubuntu Security
Notice).
I'm running an AMD64 3000+ on an Asus K8VSE Deluxe with 1GB of RAM with the
latest 2.6.10-5.?-amd64-k8 kernel. I've reliably recreated the fault with
the following:
1. Boot normally.
2. Load enough programs to *almost* fill ram (ie, programs + cache + buffer is
almost 1GB) with no swap in use.
3. Load something else large enough to prompt the kernel to try and free some
buffer/cache or swap out to disk.
4. Kernel will throw a bunch of "Unable to handle paging request at
0x0?" (the address varies but seems to always be in the range that is
only buffer/cache) into /var/log/kern.log. The remaining details in the
log refer to "{page_clear +7}" or other paging requests with
all the usual register contents etc.
5. At this point, what ever I loaded in #3 will stop with a "Killed" message.
6. Either soon after 5, or immediately, the kernel will panic and it's
"Goodnight Irene" for the system.
I've upgraded from Hoary->Breezy thinking maybe Breezy's kernel wasn't
affected, but it suffers the same problem on my hardware.
I ran memtest86 all night (over 10 hours) and no errors were found. I'm
running the latest BIOS for my board (1007.002 IIRC) and all memory timings
are "default" - ie, no over-clocking. The system has been rock solid since I
installed Hoary earlier this year. This problem only appeared after the
kernel update in USN-199-1. My other machine (a Centrino laptop) running
Hoary also installed the problematic kernel *version*, but it is a 686 kernel
not an amd64-k8, is not affected with this paging error. Maybe this is
something screwy with the AMD64-K8 code/kernel?
Anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Should I raise a bug??
Cheers,
James
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Re: [SLUG] Using Debian Alien
> I found a Mandrake RPM I wanted to use and since it was a new project I > downloaded a Mandrake CD 10.1 and installed it on an old box. > > So I was have been swimming in RPM Dependancy custard for many hours. > > So, rather than fight with Mandrake I throught I would use Debian with > Alien. > > I used apt-get to install Alien but I could not find any instruction for > using Alien > > Is there a How-to or instruction guide? Check /usr/share/doc/alien, man alien or alien --help. :-) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New Zealand http://linux.conf.au/ "The Motif interface, with chunkier controls, felt more like a ghetto blaster." - Liam Quin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Using Debian Alien
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 07:54 +1000, Richard Hayes wrote: > Dear list, > > I found a Mandrake RPM I wanted to use and since it was a new project I > downloaded a Mandrake CD 10.1 and installed it on an old box. > > So I was have been swimming in RPM Dependancy custard for many hours. > > So, rather than fight with Mandrake I throught I would use Debian with Alien. > > I used apt-get to install Alien but I could not find any instruction for > using > Alien > > Is there a How-to or instruction guide? > Try $: man alien -- James Purser Chief Talking Guy - Linux Australia Update http://k-sit.com - My Blog http://la-pod.k-sit.com - Linux Australia Update Blog and Forums Skype: purserj1977 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Using Debian Alien
Dear list, I found a Mandrake RPM I wanted to use and since it was a new project I downloaded a Mandrake CD 10.1 and installed it on an old box. So I was have been swimming in RPM Dependancy custard for many hours. So, rather than fight with Mandrake I throught I would use Debian with Alien. I used apt-get to install Alien but I could not find any instruction for using Alien Is there a How-to or instruction guide? -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing PO Box 12 Gordon Australia 2072 Tel: +(61-2) 9412 4367 Fax: +(61-2) 9412 4920 Mob: +(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sydney Open Solaris User Group - Meeting Oct 17th 6:30pm
> Superficially it looks amusing. In fact it is an ad hominem attack on Dave > Miller. Well, that describes most of its amusement value... > Rather than reply to Dave's detailed points, he attempts to ridicule him. > > Courtesy and politeness are very important in arguments. Dave didn't exactly start out with courtesy and politeness. :-) - Jeff -- UbuntuBelowZero in Montreal! http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero "(Hint: IRC clients don't usually do DVD and VCD playback)." - Bastien Nocera -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sydney Open Solaris User Group - Meeting Oct 17th 6:30pm
Jamie Honan wrote: Anyone interested in ... or meeting Bryan Cantrill (the man who famously asked Linux kernel hacker Dave Miller, "Have you ever kissed a girl?") should scoot on down to the Sun offices in North Sydney tonight. I have a problem with the original 'kissed a girl' posting. Superficially it looks amusing. In fact it is an ad hominem attack on Dave Miller. I checked from wikipedia what's meant by 'ad hominem' and I found this definition. *ad hominem* appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect Rather than reply to Dave's detailed points, he attempts to ridicule him. Courtesy and politeness are very important in arguments. To achieve understanding is better than to winning, especially by underhand means. This is the reason why everyone needs to remind ourselves and all 'list posters' of the rules of behaviour in cyberspace (or real-life-space) that's called the 'netequette' ( http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/ ). 'Logical argument' in wikipedia. Jamie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] USB Dial-up / Telephony Modem
Sluggers, I'm looking for advice / recomendations on supported USB modems for dial-up. Especially would like to hear from people who've got a USB dial-up modem that is powered by the USB cable, I.E doesn't require an external power supply, and they've got it working under the 2.6 kernel. Also links to any how-tos much appreciated. TIA's Pete. P.S Not ADSL modem, dial-up. thanks. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sydney Open Solaris User Group - Meeting Oct 17th 6:30pm
> Anyone interested in ... or meeting > Bryan Cantrill (the man who famously asked Linux kernel hacker Dave Miller, > "Have you ever kissed a girl?") should scoot on down to the Sun offices in > North Sydney tonight. I have a problem with the original 'kissed a girl' posting. Superficially it looks amusing. In fact it is an ad hominem attack on Dave Miller. Rather than reply to Dave's detailed points, he attempts to ridicule him. Courtesy and politeness are very important in arguments. To achieve understanding is better than to winning, especially by underhand means. 'Logical argument' in wikipedia. Jamie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] gönnen Sie es Ihren Kindern - und sich s elbst auch
Title: Herbstferien die Kinder haben Herbsturlaub bereiten Sie ihnen (Ihren Kindern) und sich selbst einen Riesenspass mit Urlaub in Spanien Das wird ein unvergessliches Erlebnis bleiben. Sie können ohne den beruflichen Stress sonnige Tage mit Ihrer Familie verbringen. Sie wird es Ihnen danken. Und alle werden neugestärkt zurückkehren. Wenn Sie erst wissen, wieviel das kostet, werden Sie angenehm überrascht sein. Ein Appartment kostet für ein Woche gerademal 211 (für zwei Wochen 322 ), und das für bis zu vier Personen (grössere Apartments siehe hier). Die Fahrt mit dem Auto oder mit Billigflug ist auch nicht soo teuer - essen müssen Sie zuhause auch. Alles in allem, ein preisgünstiger Riesenspass auf was warten Sie, rufen Sie uns an: 0034-629 759 385 oder Sie senden uns eine eMail Montaña del Mar / Spanien Sie wollen mehr wissen? klicken Sie hier wo liegt Montaña del Mar?mehr über Montaña del Marreservieren -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Linux or BSD for Webhosting?
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 04:05:18PM -0700, pesoy misak wrote: > I just got a request from my friend to build a web > hosting system for his business but i don't know what > is the best distro for it. I presume you're talking about hosting multiple sites and such, rather than "a webserver". I've recently deployed SysCP (http://www.syscp.de/) to a client, and so far I've found it to be quite nice. Looks decent (although there are a few little grammatical problems due to the main authors being German), provides all the basic functionality you might need (multiple domains including aliases, mail domains, full quotas on everything) and doesn't require diving into the base system much-if-at-all. Installs natively on top of Debian Sarge, but I've installed it quite easily on Ubuntu Hoary. I agree with Jeff's sentiment overall, though -- use what you're familiar with already unless you're keen on making this a learning experience. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Dual Booting Query - *Not* about layout...
Hi Anthony, In situations like this, I tell lilo before rebooting to boot to "Windows" (lilo image label) for the next boot only. # lilo -R Windows As opposed to -D Windows (or editing lilo.conf), which sets the default boot option to that label. Cheers, - Simon On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Anthony O'Hara wrote: Hi all, In the course of my day, I am occasionally forced to boot Windows. I also do this remotely... However, whenever I do, I am stuck with a Windows machine until I can go back to the office, or have someone select the correct bootloader option for me on reboot. (Which isnt always an option.) I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to re-apply my bootloader settings (yes, Its lilo, and I don't want to get into any religious wars about it.. I just like it.. :) :)) so I can go back to the warm fuzzy Gentoo install I have? I've got a ext2/ext3 browser for XP, so I can read and edit/save files to the ext2 boot partition. But how do I re-run lilo? Is this a case of grub being the only thing that'll do it because saving the config file would suffice?? Just wondering. Cheers! Anthony. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Dual Booting Query - *Not* about layout...
Title: Dual Booting Query - *Not* about layout... Hi all, In the course of my day, I am occasionally forced to boot Windows… I also do this remotely... However, whenever I do, I am stuck with a Windows machine until I can go back to the office, or have someone select the correct bootloader option for me on reboot… (Which isnt always an option…) I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to re-apply my bootloader settings (yes, Its lilo, and I don’t want to get into any religious wars about it.. I just like it.. :) :)) so I can go back to the warm fuzzy Gentoo install I have? I've got a ext2/ext3 browser for XP, so I can read and edit/save files to the ext2 boot partition. But how do I re-run lilo? Is this a case of grub being the only thing that'll do it because saving the config file would suffice?? Just wondering… Cheers! Anthony… -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux or BSD for Webhosting?
pesoy misak wrote: i would prefer on load balancing and high availability for my web server without much downtime probably not high performance :) previously i was thinking about having openmosix as well for the web hosting to make the availability high Apache is the server of choice for more and more servers. http://www.apache.org easy maintenance to me is like having all in one place such as having a separate disk space for every users and single password for every services including mail, web service, etc etc 1. Openldap ( http://www.openldap.org ) for address directory, resources, and services; 2. Cyrus-sasl(http://asg.web.cmu.edu/) for secure and single-sign-on using Openldap (plain, digest-md5 or GSSAPI over Kerberos5-http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/); 3. WebAuth (http://webauthv3.stanford.edu/) for Web authentication also using Openldap and Cyrus-sasl as part of a single-sign-on; 4. Sendmail(www.sendmail.org) and Cyrus-imapd (http://asg.web.cmu.edu/) for SMTP, MUA, and support for many mail clients using Openldap and Cyrus-sasl; Sendmail is now easy to install, configure, and maintain using M4 macros, makefile tools and easily automated, contrary to what many percieved; 5. Samba(www.samba.org) authentication and files/printers services for Microsoft clients using Openldap and Cyrus-sasl and therefore using the same single-sign-on facilities as above. 6. Single point of control and management for numerous DNS servers using dns2ldap on Openldap and cyrus-sasl (Have not tested this part yet). Two main features of foregoing are a) Single-Sign-On and b) High Network Security for all services and resources using Openldap as the underlying authentication base and Cyrus-SASL as the underlying security framework protocol. Hope this helps. O Plameras -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] No soundcards found ...
I've been through this before but memory is rusty .. My system is in the process of adapting to Xorg and a number of settings have to be re-adjusted to achieve a Deb unstable system I have taken for granted for what seems like a long time. My system suddenly could not detect my rodent & lost sound. I think I've solved the first via 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and modprobing psmouse & mousedev to /etc/modules .. but trying the same with sound gave me Tux:~# modprobe snd_intel8x0 Setting up ALSA ...*/etc/init.s/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_state: 1236: No soundcards found .. I've seen different variations of the same message in various logs. My Creative soundcard has previously had no problems with detection. Can anyone point me in the right direction ? Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Juergen Busam wrote: > Can anyone recommend a reliable ISP (with good Overseas connection) with > at least the possibility to have 3M down and 640 K Up, or even better a > symmetric connection with 3M down and up? Your options are fairly limited in speed. Unless you're living within a short distance of one of the exchanges which have been upgraded to ADSL2+, you're not going to get 3 meg on an average ADSL connection. You *might* get lucky with a business grade connection if you're not on an exchange which isn't ADSL2+ - but if you did you'd be up for at least $1000 a month. Internode is one ISP which has some exchanges at ADSL2+ - check out http://cgi.agile.com.au/cgi-bin/dsl-coverage-table?Carrier=Agile for exchanges which are enabled and http://www.internode.on.net/adsl2/ for more information regarding the plans. http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc-plan.cfm is the place to check for compatible xDSL/Cable plans. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ISP
Hi! Can anyone recommend a reliable ISP (with good Overseas connection) with at least the possibility to have 3M down and 640 K Up, or even better a symmetric connection with 3M down and up? regards Juergen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux or BSD for Webhosting?
i would prefer on load balancing and high availability for my web server without much downtime probably not high performance :) previously i was thinking about having openmosix as well for the web hosting to make the availability high you cant really load balance on one server. easy maintenance to me is like having all in one place such as having a separate disk space for every users and single password for every services including mail, web service, etc etc so home directories and universal authentication scheme? these are all part of unix by default. I would like to learn alot mean like I like dealing every single aspect of the system that i would build like first person learning slackware, FreeBSD or even debian im still curious if you want gui tools anyway i would recommend centos if youve never used linux before. if your comfortable with unix then debian will be an excellent experient. in either case i think youll find webmin to be a good web based admin tool. equally, if you are comfortable with unix youll also enjoy the freebsd experience. Dean -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux or BSD for Webhosting?
--- Dean Hamstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > they are all very relative. > > powerfull tools are inherintally more complex to > use. > simplicity tends to be a trade for advanced > features. > > i do have the pleasure of working with windows at > work > nt4, 2k and 2k3. and they are getting better (but > are > getting better at consuming cpu also) > > any sort of internet server needs maintanance and > someone > to keep an eye on it. putting a machine on the > internet > and just forgetting about it is *very* *very* bad. > thats > with any operating system. > > however, i work with lots of different operating > systems > and have put in the effort to make myself as 'os > independant' > as possible. i think everyone can agree that not > tying yourself > to an os or distribution cant be a bad thing. > > but on with a more serious answer > > what sort of clustering do you want? do you need > clustering? > what is 'easy maintenance' for you? i would prefer on load balancing and high availability for my web server without much downtime probably not high performance :) previously i was thinking about having openmosix as well for the web hosting to make the availability high easy maintenance to me is like having all in one place such as having a separate disk space for every users and single password for every services including mail, web service, etc etc > where on the magical 'learning curve' are you? I would like to learn alot mean like I like dealing every single aspect of the system that i would build like first person learning slackware, FreeBSD or even debian > a windows webserver doesnt really sit much further > down on the > learning curve than unix webservers. most security > and performance > issues (IMO) are fairly universal. > > > Dean > > On Mon, October 17, 2005 10:39 am, pesoy misak said: > > > > Hi again > > > > regarding Unixes > > > > how about the clustering services, easy > maintenance, > > and learning curve for having this boxes > > > > > > --- Dean Hamstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> this is a linux list so... ;) > >> > >> personally, bong.com.au is 3 x freebsd servers > >> > >> kusanagi.bong.com.au > >> aramaki.bong.com.au > >> ishikawa.bong.com.au > >> > >> all sgi 1200's > >> > >> however, if you really dont know much about unix > and > >> friends (tm) > >> then i would go with centos. its based on red hat > >> enterprise and > >> when i tried it, i was happy with the gui etc. > >> > >> i wouldnt recommend fedora, suse or gentoo. > >> > >> openbsd is secure, but after install its only as > >> secure as the user who > >> starts installing random application server > software > >> makes it. > >> > >> i choose freebsd over openbsd because i feel > freebsd > >> has more mature > >> SMP and is faster on i386. also, the freebsd > ports > >> tree isnt versioned > >> like the openbsd one is. > >> > >> that kind of leads into the argument, of if a > server > >> should be more > >> organic in its software, or should be installed, > run > >> and replaced. > >> > >> i choose bsd over linux because to me it just > seems > >> to be a better > >> server. thats my right and im thankfull that open > >> source allows me > >> to have the options to pick things based on > >> technical merits and > >> also unsubstantiatable vibes. > >> > >> debian is also a fine choice. i should say that > all > >> my desktops > >> run debian. i love it - but i dont use it for > intel. > >> amd64 and powerpc. > >> > >> crux looks good as it has bsd style init (which > is > >> one reason i > >> prefer bsd as as server - i like bsd style init) > >> > >> Dean > >> > >> On Mon, October 17, 2005 9:05 am, pesoy misak > said: > >> > Hi all > >> > > >> > I just got a request from my friend to build a > web > >> > hosting system for his business but i don't > know > >> what > >> > is the best distro for it. > >> > > >> > Any suggestion is welcome either BSD or Linux > or > >> any > >> > other OS but not ms*** please since it costly > >> > > >> > many thanks in advance > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > __ > >> > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > >> > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > >> > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > >> > -- > >> > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - > >> http://slug.org.au/ > >> > Subscription info and FAQs: > >> http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home > page! > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux or BSD for Webhosting?
thanks anth that is really helpful --- Anth Courtney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd certainly recommend FreeBSD for this purpose, > but if you want to do some > reading (and question asking), you might want to > check out the forums at > > http://www.webhostingtalk.com > > and > > http://www.webhostingtalk.com.au (for an Aus > perspective) > > and see what the opinions are of people whose > primary business is > webhosting, day-in, day-out. > > cheers, > Anth > > On 10/17/05, pesoy misak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I just got a request from my friend to build a web > > hosting system for his business but i don't know > what > > is the best distro for it. > > > > Any suggestion is welcome either BSD or Linux or > any > > other OS but not ms*** please since it costly > > > > many thanks in advance > > > > > > > > __ > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - > http://slug.org.au/ > > Subscription info and FAQs: > http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > > > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
