[SLUG] Re: DebSIG: Wednesday 19/07 - Matt Palmer on automated debian/ubuntu installation
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 01:43:46PM +1000, Matt Moor wrote: > Tonight's talk will be on automated installation and will be given by > our own Matt Palmer (really this time). I promise, really I do. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] DebSIG: Wednesday 19/07 - Matt Palmer on automated debian/ubuntu installation
Hi All, Sorry for the late announce (of course, those eager beavers and their iCal subscriptions should already know from the SLUG website), but DebSIG is on at 6:30pm Wednesday 19 July at the Cohi Bar - 359 Harbourside Darling Harbour. Tonight's talk will be on automated installation and will be given by our own Matt Palmer (really this time). The blurb: Having wrestled with automated installations recently, Matt will share his hard-won experience with Instalinux, preseeding, kickstart, and the debian-installer -- both how they work, and how they can be customised to do all manner of unnatural things. Should be good for anyone wanting to install multiple Debian/Ubuntu machines with a minimum of pain. Regards, Matt Moor SLUG Secretary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Newcomer
On 7/15/06, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Roberto, If you go to one of the larger newsagencys, e.g. Borders and buy Linux Format's August edition for $24.50 it has a full verion of SUSE10.1. I've got it but I have no way of getting it to you, sorry. If Roberto wants a Ubuntu Dapper cd instead, I am share I could share the love. If your on the Macquarie Uni campus in Macquarie Park (North Ryde) then you could meet me near my offices to obtain it. I work opposite Macquarie Centre (behind the Nortel Building). And if SUSE10.1 is available for download, I could probably even download and burn a copy of that too. Thanks Michael -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Dual head too vast
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 15:14 +1000, Shane Stephens wrote: > Hi James, > > I'm pretty sure Xinerama and DRI won't mix - I seem to recall noticing > something saying that in the xorg log when I tried to do it. Thanks for the reply, Shane. It appears that you're right. But it also appears that using MergedFB will do approximately the same thing, as will using the fglrx "BigDesktop" thing. These pages have some brief info on the subject: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MergedFB http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/MergedFB So yeah, it seems that I can get the desired outcome, but I can't use Xinerama. I'm a bit short on time to tinker with it atm, but I'll give the BigDesktop thing another go at some point. That seems to be the method that will give the best performance. I must say, it's kinda silly that Xinerama won't do DRI the way you've got it setup. I'll have to look into it; surely it can't be too hard to fix. James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] rpm no key warning
Voytek Eymont wrote: On Tue, July 18, 2006 7:10 am, O Plameras wrote: #wget http://apt.sw.be/dries/RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt # gpg --import RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt This should be, rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt My mistake. Sorry. O Plameras -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Dual head too vast
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 06:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dudes, > > After much wailing and gnashing of teeth I managed to get a new > dual-head Radeon video card doing dual-head with the fglrx drivers. I > used xinerama since I couldn't work out how to get the ATI BigScreen > thing working (I think at some point I made that work, but the only > application that could use the second head was the login screen of gdm; > I couldn't use it once gnome-session started). > > But now when I maximise windows, they end up being 2560 pixels wide (ie, > spanning both screens), when what I really want is to maximise to only > one screen. Currently I get 'goo' and 'gle' one two screens. > > What's the magical incantation I'm missing? I'll happily send my > xorg.conf file if it will help, but don't want to prematurely spam the > list with it. I'm not that attached to the fglrx drivers, so if > switching to one of the plethora other ATI drivers will solve my > problem, I'm quite amenable to that. > > Ideally I'd like to get 3D acceleration working too, but I'll let that > be for now. this is not what you want to hear ... I have a few ATI cards lying around, even cheapie NVIDIA (FX5200, gigabyte, fanless. $60) WORK so I've migrated. TwinView works as expected. She's happy :-) James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] rpm no key warning
On Mon, July 17, 2006 12:09 pm, Matthew Hannigan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 08:03:20AM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote: > This is pretty well covered in > http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/FAQ.php#B thanks, Matt, I should've looked it up, though, I have used his RPMs on RH73 many times, and, never struck this so, can I add Dag's site to my Centos yum... and, be able to get either Centos and Dag's RPMs with 'yum install' ? that sounds usefull -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] modem problem - Conexant: RX FIFO OVERRUN (Bus Latency)
Dear slug, dell inspiron, running suse 10.1 with a conexant sof modem and I've some problems with the hsf driver. When I dial my isp I get: kernel: Conexant: RX FIFO OVERRUN (Bus Latency) - FIFOE<3> kernel: Conexant: TX FIFO UNDERRUN (Bus Latency) - FIFOE<3> after a few minutes and the connection breaks down. What does this mean? How do I rectify? please help... Regards; Dan the Man "I love cats, they taste just like chicken" -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] rpm no key warning
On Mon, July 17, 2006 11:43 am, Martin Visser wrote: > The whole point of package signing is demonstrating trust. By > downloading a package from Dag's site you are electing to use him as a > provider of some code or information. So you already have some element of > trust in him. If you choose to install it then you are also trusting the > delivery mechanism - his server integrity, the network between you and > him, etc. Martin, as I have been using his RPMs with RH73 for longer than I care to remember, I guess I can continue to trust him.. thanks for detailed explanation ! (meanwhile, I'm off to buy more paper, I've managed to print about 800 pages of RH docs, and, there is another 800 to print, I think a duplexing printer would be handy) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] rpm no key warning
On Tue, July 18, 2006 7:10 am, O Plameras wrote: > #wget http://apt.sw.be/dries/RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt > # gpg --import RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt thanks, Oscar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# gpg --import RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt gpg: failed to create temporary file `/root/.gnupg/.#lk0x99a49b0.localhost.localdomain.3787': No such file or directory gpg: keyblock resource `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg': general error gpg: failed to create temporary file `/root/.gnupg/.#lk0x99a4cc0.localhost.localdomain.3787': No such file or directory gpg: keyblock resource `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg': general error gpg: no writable keyring found: eof gpg: error reading `RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt': general error gpg: import from `RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt' failed: general error gpg: Total number processed: 0 hmmm, this is similar what I struck attempting to install Perl updates/modules... googling for this came with several hits suggesting to make manually the '.gnupg/', which I did, but, still no go, seems the process dosn't have permission to make dirs ..? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: TPA and open source licence
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 05:48:52PM +1000, Michael Lake wrote: > Ricky wrote: > >what do you think of an "Australian version" of the open source licence ? > >Note that this isn't GPL > > > >http://nicta.com.au/director/commercialisation/open_source_licence.cfm > > > >good ? bad ? sensible ? necessary ? > > Not good. I do understand that something that comes with no warrrant, not > even an implied one might be against some juristrictions laws but to have > acountry specific licence I think is a bad move. A country-specific licence isn't the best, but I'll give them points for trying -- it's a lot better than the last draft they put around. Specifically, they've allowed a fall-back to the stock UoI/NCSA licence if the copyright holder isn't in Australia, and they've qualified the warranty bit down the bottom to limit it to only situations where there's legislation which says you can't disclaim all warranties. This might seem trivial, but the last version of this licence that went around didn't have that last bit, so as an OSS hacker releasing under this licence, you were effectively agreeing to rewrite the software if someone who downloaded it didn't like it. At least this time you have to be engaging in trade before the Trade Practices Act kicks in and requires you to not disclaim all warranties. > Specifically against this licence you have to enter things like Institution>, Australia> etc throughout the document. It's not like the GPL which you > just insert in there. This has to be "hand crafted" for each institution - > dumb. The bit is kinda necessary in any choice-of-law clause -- you can't practically make that a runtime variable (as it were). It wouldn't make much sense to have a country-specific licence without a choice-of-law clause, though. The bits could be abstracted out to things like "Copyright Holder", but that probably requires a fair chunk of legalese in the licence to define all the terms used. What I'd really like to see is licences which try really hard to ignore the vagaries of particular jurisdictions' laws and just get down to the specifics of what you're really after in a licence -- the "four freedoms" would be a great licence, if it weren't for lawyers who spend all their time looking for loopholes to sneak through. If only everyone played fair, by the spirit of the rules rather than the exact letter, the world would be such a happy place... (cue Lionel Hutz' vision about a world without lawyers). - Matt -- "All I care about [a linux distro] is it detect my hardware (non-Debian strengths), and teach me to fish instead of just giving me a smelly old fish (most people 'xcept Debian), and I guess don't just give me a fish biology textbook (gentoo)." -- Tom (in d-devel) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] rpm no key warning
Do these, #wget http://apt.sw.be/dries/RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt # gpg --import RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt If the above does'nt work, as a last resort(when you're desperate to have the package), in your /etc/yum.repos.d/dag.repo change: gpgcheck = 1 to gpgcheck = 0 to bypass checking(like we don't bother to check file checksum), because we trust the network (internet) we're using. When in doubt don't turn-off that KEY checking. In the past I practiced this habit of turning-off KEYS-checking (thinking I've gotten around the problem, but really not understanding what I was doing) but I've kicked that habit completely off my system. To summarize and generalize the procedure: 1. Search for the GPG-KEY from the download site itself. (True for RH and Fedora sites. You'd always find it. It's near the top of the tree. If not, email for support. You'd get a reply from site sys-admin but you'd have to wait). 2. Download, and 3. Import that KEY, or 4. Turn off the checking of KEY (Dangerous ! So, proceed with caution. This is especially so in production environments). Hope this helps. O Plameras -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions
On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 19:59 +1000, Christopher Vance wrote: > Soekris (US) make the net4801, and PC-Engines (Switzerland) make > the WRAP. Both companies make a range of boards. > > Yawarra distributes both in Aus with a variety of cases available, and > sells wireless cards which work well with them. Paul is also a nice > guy. :-) ah, thanks for the lead, this might be the answer to some of my Linux prayers! The net4801 looks like what I've been trying to find... -- Simon Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] TPA and open source licence
> This has to be "hand crafted" for each institution - dumb. (One of the reasons why the MPL is not just "The" MPL... Much badness.) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ "The postmodern version is: If all you have is duct tape, everything starts to look like a duct. Right. When's the last time you used duct tape on a duct?" - Larry Wall -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] TPA and open source licence
Ricky wrote: Hi All what do you think of an "Australian version" of the open source licence ? Note that this isn't GPL http://nicta.com.au/director/commercialisation/open_source_licence.cfm good ? bad ? sensible ? necessary ? Cheers Not good. I do understand that something that comes with no warrrant, not even an implied one might be against some juristrictions laws but to have acountry specific licence I think is a bad move. Specifically against this licence you have to enter things like Institution>, etc throughout the document. It's not like the GPL which you just insert in there. This has to be "hand crafted" for each institution - dumb. Mike -- Michael Lake Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 8232 Fx: 9514 1460 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] VMWare Server free as in free beer
in regards to option (2), you cant have vmware preallocate space or to allocate on the fly. this means that free space is free on the host as well as the guest. im not sure if you can convert between, but i can see the advantages when cloning if you were to start without preallocation then after copying (if needed) convert to allocated. this would benefit copying to other machines even more. Dean Carlo Sogono wrote: Just FYI. I'm replying to my own post after doing some tests of my own. I have tested VMWare Server 1.0 as a host on both RHEL4 AS and Ubuntu Dapper Server. VMWare Server can essentially be used as a workstation but with one lacking feature: cloning. It is possible to still clone a guest OS in two ways: (1) by taking a snapshot, creating a different dir and copying the snapshot files, then linking the original vmdk in your new dir. (2) by duplicating the whole directory of your guest OS (cp -R, but this takes up a lot of space). So far I have been satisfied with the performance of VMWare Server for Linux on Ubuntu Dapper Server (no X). Carlo Carlo Sogono wrote: I noticed that VMWare Server 1.0 was released recently and is freely downloadable. How is this significantly different from the other VMWare versions? A quick skim through the site gives me nothing more than "VMWare Server is more suitable for servers" and "VMWare Workstation is suitable for workstations". I don't see how I can't use VMWare Server to install desktop OS's... Am I missing something here? Thanks in advance. Carlo -- WWW: http://deanpatrick.tk LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
