[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] linux assignment]

[Phil Grimshaw]

Folk,
I watched with interest when the 'student' posted his request for help
on his assignment.
I agreed with a lot of the comment made by folk, but I opted to reply
to David and keep it private, one-on-one. However, now that I see David
again making the same approach I have decided to let the group see the
comments I sent David in the 1st place.  If David took my advice, that
book purchase will have likely assisted him with his assignment. I
suspect he did not buy the book.

David,  as suggested by one more recent postee - I would encourage you
to perhaps take whatever PC you have at home and install Linux.  By
actually using it you will learn more in 1 week than you could imagine
and those  assignments wont give rise to the sort of questions you have
posted to this group - which frankly demonstrate a clear lack of effort
on your part.

Learning Linux is a journey - you have to take it.  Expecting it to
come to you by asking this group
to do your assignment is robbing you of the joy of the journey.  You
might think thats all a waste of time - I hope not.

 Distributions for about 5 or 6 alternatives are available from most
newsagents - CD, DVD's included for the princely sum of $16. Next 
Handbooks publish them in Australia. (I am not associated with Next)
FC4, Debian, - take your choice.

As a tempter - it would take you 15mins to buy it at the local
newsagent,
about 1hr to install either of these distros on a recent PC, and then
about 1hr to do your assignment.
In one afternoon you would learn more about Linux than you seem likely
to in a whole semester of your course as things seem to stand now.

Best of luck and go do it - enjoy!


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  Subject: 
  Re: [SLUG] linux assignment


  Date: 
  Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:33:09 +1000


  From: 
  Phil Grimshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


  To: 
  David Herd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


  References: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  




David,
If you are a student why arent you using your student allocated email?
It would probably secure you more cred than hiding behind a hotmail
address.

Also - I suggest you buy some books on Linux.
Excellent examples are

'Linux in a Nutshell - A Desktop Quick Ref' by Siever, FIggins &
Weber.
  pub O'Reilly

cheers

David Herd wrote:

  
Hi 
I'm a computing student who is having troubles with part of my
assignment. Can I have any help out there in Linux land. 
  
Question 1. (16 marks) 
  
Write UNIX commands to 
  
a) show the lines of the online manual page for sort that contain the
word order. 
  
b) show how many characters the date command outputs. 
  
c) copy all C source files (the filenames end in .c) from the present
working 
  directory into a subdirectory called Cfiles. 
  
d) list all files in the present working directory that have filenames 
  that match: 
    starts with either t or T 
    the extension is a single digit 
  
e) compress all the files in the directory Docs/ and store them in an 
 archive called Docs.tar 
  
f) sort the file /etc/passwd in reverse alphabetical order by username.
  
  
g) append all the lines of m1 that contain "name" to m2 
  
h) Mail the present working directory contents to the current user 
  with subject Directory. 
  
Question 2. (4 marks) 
  
m1, m2 and m3 are text files. 
What do the follow commands do under bash? 
Answer in English. 
  
a) cat 1> m1 
  
b) cat 0< m1 | sort 1> m2 2> m3 
  
Question 3. (4 marks) 
  
m1, m2 and m3 are text files. 
What do the following commands do under tcsh? 
Answer in English. 
  
a) ls -l | grep admin |tee m1 | lpr -Pp1 
  
b) zcat m.z | head -20 
  
  
  
thanks 
David 
  
  



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Re: [SLUG] Extracting `self-extracting' archives.

[James Dumay]

No problems :)See you at SLUG! (If your coming).JamesOn 8/22/06, Peter Chubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:> "James" == James Dumay <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:James> If your using a linux box with XJames> you should be able to run the executable if you install wineJames> and recover the ISO off the hard disk after it has installed.
James> Alternatively you could use "cabextract" [1] which extractsJames> both regular .cab files and executable cab files and if it isJames> an installsheild installer you could use "unshield"[2].
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Re: [SLUG] Extracting `self-extracting' archives.

[Peter Chubb]

> "James" == James Dumay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

James> If your using a linux box with X
James> you should be able to run the executable if you install wine
James> and recover the ISO off the hard disk after it has installed.

James> Alternatively you could use "cabextract" [1] which extracts
James> both regular .cab files and executable cab files and if it is
James> an installsheild installer you could use "unshield"[2].

Thankyou!  Turns out this was a .cab file not a zip.

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Re: [SLUG] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

[James Dumay]

Committee will see that a big "SLUG" sign is stuck on the entrance of the correct building.~JamesOn 8/22/06, Martin Pool <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On 22 Aug 2006, Lindsay Holmwood <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> G'day all,>> SLUG August Monthly Meeting>> When:>25th August 2006, 18:30 - 21:30> Where:>IBM Building, Level 17, St. Leonards
By the way there are at least two IBM offices in St Leonards... (butonly one with 17 stories and at that address)> This month's meeting will be at our brand new venue, the IBM building,> Level 17, 601 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
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Re: [SLUG] E-mail logs.

[Robert Thorsby]

On 2006.08.22 12:07 Peter Hodder wrote:

  I'm in the process of setting up a IPCOP server for a
youth cafe.  I was wondering if there is a easy way to
be able to e-mail the raw log files from squid to myself
and some other people so I can look at the log files daily.
 And if someone could send me some info on getting
cron to rotate the squid log files daily that would be
great as well.


When I last looked at IPCop the developers had steadfastly refused to 
provide an SMTP client (it's against their religion or something) and 
they had aliased "mail" to /dev/null or "true" or whatever.


The easiest way to overcome these problems is to compile on another 
machine, and then install on the IPCop firewall, a small standalone 
SMTP client (ie, one that only sends a message from stdin off to a 
"proper" mailserver). There are a multitude of such apps -- nbsmtp, 
smtpclient and msmtp spring to mind. Either nbsmtp or smtpclient (I 
forget which) strips to about 12K if space is a problem for you. Msmtp 
has the advantage that you can include all sorts of additional headers 
as part of the message -- if everything down to the first blank line in 
the "body" is actually a header them msmtp will treat them as such. I 
use msmtp as a "poor man's mailman" with a very small mailing list.


Basically, all these applets do the same thing -- take input from stdin 
(or, usually, a pipe) and send it off in accordance with command line 
arguments. But they all require an upstream/downstream mail host (ie, 
mail.myisp.com.au or mail.mylan) that they can hand off the email to. 
This host then does the real sending.


I suggest you install a couple of these client apps onto your 
workstation and then play around with sending emails from the command 
line. It's very easy to use them in shell scripts.


HTH,
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Re: [SLUG] Extracting `self-extracting' archives.

[James Dumay]

If your using a linux box with X you should be able to run the executable if you install wine and recover the ISO off the hard disk after it has installed.Alternatively you could use "cabextract" [1] which extracts both regular .cab files and executable cab files and if it is an installsheild installer you could use "unshield"[2].
[1] http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php[2] http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/unshield.php
If this doesn't work for you I could extract them for you on Windows.~JamesOn 8/22/06, Peter Chubb <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi,   I grabbed what the docco said was a ZIP file from the HP website to
upgrade the firmware on one of the boxen I administer... but itdoesn't appear to be one.$ file sp25879.exesp25879.exe: MS-DOS executable PE  for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bitSometimes these things have embedded ZIP files, so just to try it:
$ unzip sp25879.exeArchive:  sp25879.exe  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
  the last disk(s) of this archive.unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of sp25879.exe orsp25879.exe.zip, and cannot find sp25879.exe.ZIP, period.Does anyone have any ideas how to get the ISO image out of this thing,
without a Windows box handy?--Dr Peter Chubb  http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au  peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au
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Re: [SLUG] Extracting `self-extracting' archives.

[Peter Hardy]

On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 12:58 +1000, Peter Chubb wrote:
>I grabbed what the docco said was a ZIP file from the HP website to
> upgrade the firmware on one of the boxen I administer... but it
> doesn't appear to be one.
> 
> 
> 
> $ file sp25879.exe 
> sp25879.exe: MS-DOS executable PE  for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit
> 
> Sometimes these things have embedded ZIP files, so just to try it:

Sometimes they have embedded cabinet files, too. Tried cabextract?

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[SLUG] Extracting `self-extracting' archives.

[Peter Chubb]

Hi,
   I grabbed what the docco said was a ZIP file from the HP website to
upgrade the firmware on one of the boxen I administer... but it
doesn't appear to be one.



$ file sp25879.exe 
sp25879.exe: MS-DOS executable PE  for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit

Sometimes these things have embedded ZIP files, so just to try it:

$ unzip sp25879.exe 
Archive:  sp25879.exe
  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
  the last disk(s) of this archive.
unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of sp25879.exe or
sp25879.exe.zip, and cannot find sp25879.exe.ZIP, period.

Does anyone have any ideas how to get the ISO image out of this thing,
without a Windows box handy?

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Re: [SLUG] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

[Martin Pool]

On 22 Aug 2006, Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G'day all,
> 
> SLUG August Monthly Meeting
> 
> When:
>25th August 2006, 18:30 - 21:30
> Where:
>IBM Building, Level 17, St. Leonards

By the way there are at least two IBM offices in St Leonards... (but
only one with 17 stories and at that address)

> This month's meeting will be at our brand new venue, the IBM building,
> Level 17, 601 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.

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[SLUG] E-mail logs.

[Peter Hodder]

Hey,     I'm in the process of setting up a IPCOP server for a youth cafe.  I was wondering if there is a easy way to be able to e-mail the raw log files from squid to myself and some other people so I can look at the log files daily.  And if someone could send me some info on getting cron to rotate the squid log files daily that would be great as well.     Thanks    Pete.    
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Request For Venue: SLUG monthly meeting

[Lindsay Holmwood]

We really have no idea why they've decided to spring this on us now.

The committee is working towards organising a meeting with UTS to work
through the situation. Hopefully we can restore UTS as our meeting
place.

Lindsay

On 8/22/06, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't get to attend SLUG meetings being 600km away, but I was
wondering whether UTS's hike in charges was genuine or whether there was
any behind the scenes pressure from an entrenched supplier...  perhaps I
should go back to Occam's Razor  :)

Lindsay Holmwood wrote:
> On 8/18/06, Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> So we're hoping that someone in the community can help us out. If you
>> know a venue, or work for a company than can organise a venue fitting
>> 40-100+ people, is close to public transport (trains especially), is
>> inexpensive (preferably free), and available for next Friday's
>> meeting, we'd love to hear from you.
>>
>
> IBM have kindly given us the use of a room at their St. Leonards
> building. I'll be sending out an announce with all the details in the
> coming hour.
>
> Thanks to everyone who responded on- and off-list. Even if we can't
> manage to patch up a deal with UTS, we certainly have a lot of other
> options. :-)
>
> Lindsay
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[SLUG] Re: [activities] Re: Request For Venue: SLUG monthly meeting

[Lindsay Holmwood]

We're going to try and organise a venue in St. Leonards/Crows Nest.
Hiking all the way back to Central for a feed seems a bit extreme to
me. :-)

Lindsay

On 8/22/06, Michael Kedzierski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 8/22/06, Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IBM have kindly given us the use of a room at their St. Leonards
> building. I'll be sending out an announce with all the details in the
> coming hour.

Does this mean dinner is moving to somewhere also near there, or is it
staying at Ippon Sushi?




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[SLUG] Re: [activities] Re: Request For Venue: SLUG monthly meeting

[Michael Kedzierski]

On 8/22/06, Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

IBM have kindly given us the use of a room at their St. Leonards
building. I'll be sending out an announce with all the details in the
coming hour.


Does this mean dinner is moving to somewhere also near there, or is it
staying at Ippon Sushi?
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[SLUG] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

[Lindsay Holmwood]

G'day all,

SLUG August Monthly Meeting

When:
   25th August 2006, 18:30 - 21:30
Where:
   IBM Building, Level 17, St. Leonards

SLUG's monthly meeting featuring talks and SLUGlets. Meetings are open
to the general public, and free of charge.

This month's meeting will be at our brand new venue, the IBM building,
Level 17, 601 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.

So we can adjust to the new venue, we ask that people arrive 15
minutes earlier so we can all get into the building and start on time.

General Talk: Pascal Klein - Graphical Artistry with Free Software

Technical Talk: Jamie Wilkinson - Application Development with Pylons
and the Web Server Gateway Interface

** Meeting Schedule **

6:30pm Doors open

6.45pm Usual Suspects: Q&A - Introduction to SLUG + "What has Linux
done for/to me lately?" + SLUG News & Discussion

7:00pm General Talk: Pascal Klein - Graphical Artistry with Free Software

8.00pm Break for tea and biscuits

8:20pm Split into two groups for:

Technical Talk: Jamie Wilkinson - Application Development with Pylons
and the Web Server Gateway Interface

SLUGlets: Gaming under Linux

9:30pm: Dinner: TBA, somewhere in Crows Nest. :-)

Hope to see you all there!

Lindsay

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[SLUG] Re: Request For Venue: SLUG monthly meeting

[Lindsay Holmwood]

On 8/18/06, Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So we're hoping that someone in the community can help us out. If you
know a venue, or work for a company than can organise a venue fitting
40-100+ people, is close to public transport (trains especially), is
inexpensive (preferably free), and available for next Friday's
meeting, we'd love to hear from you.



IBM have kindly given us the use of a room at their St. Leonards
building. I'll be sending out an announce with all the details in the
coming hour.

Thanks to everyone who responded on- and off-list. Even if we can't
manage to patch up a deal with UTS, we certainly have a lot of other
options. :-)

Lindsay

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[SLUG] Redhat exam voucher 70% off

[Ben Donohue]

Hi Slugs,
I've a Redhat exam voucher that gives 70% off the RHCE exams.
Anybody want it?
Unfortunetly it expires 31 AUG 06 so not much time.
I was going to use it myself but other things came up.
I'm in Sydney and work in the city/darlinghurst area.
Ben

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Re: [SLUG] How to force which device is eth0?

[Simon Wong]

On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 09:30 +1000, Ian Wienand wrote:
> I think you have two options; firstly is the ifrename package, which
> reads /etc/iftab.  

This exists in Ubuntu so it looks the easiest way to go.

> The other option is you can give your cards static names with udev,
> and then refer to those for your interfaces; see
> 
> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/udev.htm

Thanks, I'll have a read of this reference.

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Re: [SLUG] How to force which device is eth0?

[Simon Wong]

On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 09:27 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> Check out /etc/iftab (and the iftab man page).
> 
> - Jeff

Bingo!  Thanks, mate!


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[SLUG] Re: [chat] Software Freedom Day posters - need help

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Monday 21 August 2006 05:12, Pia Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> attached are two pdfs (one bw and one colour) for the SFD2006.

Did you perhaps forget to include the attachments? I don't see any.

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Re: [SLUG] How to force which device is eth0?

[O Plameras]

Alexander Samad wrote:

On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:14:43AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
  

Matthew Hannigan wrote:


On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:55:26AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
 
  

I'm using Fedora, and I use the file /etc/modprobe.conf
to say, e.g.,

alias eth0 tulip
alias eth1 e100
alias eth2 3c59x
   


That says that eth0 uses the tulip driver,
but I'm not sure it says that the one that
requires tulip is eth0, which is what the original
poster wanted.
 
  

These works everytime for me.


if your initrd loads e100 or 3c59x first then it will not work
  


This is obscure news to me.


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Re: [SLUG] How to force which device is eth0?

[Alexander Samad]

On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:14:43AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
> Matthew Hannigan wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:55:26AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
> >  
> >>I'm using Fedora, and I use the file /etc/modprobe.conf
> >>to say, e.g.,
> >>
> >>alias eth0 tulip
> >>alias eth1 e100
> >>alias eth2 3c59x
> >>
> >
> >That says that eth0 uses the tulip driver,
> >but I'm not sure it says that the one that
> >requires tulip is eth0, which is what the original
> >poster wanted.
> >  
> 
> These works everytime for me.
if your initrd loads e100 or 3c59x first then it will not work
> 
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