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Re: [SLUG] Re: Has anyone tried Asterisk?
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:06:56AM +, Ben Buxton wrote: > Kevin Saenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered the following thing: > > I am looking at using Asterisk for home. > > > > I have a VOIP wireless DSL router. Do I have to have any other > > specific piece of hardware? > > > > I would like to have a linux box running Asterisk that will manage > > all the incoming and out going calls, that way I could also pre-empt > > the bill I will get charged in the following month. > > > > I would like to use my desktops as phones. That means that my PCs > > (both windows and Linux) > > and Notebook Pro will need to be able to answer the call and allow us > > to talk back. > > > > Is what I am planning possible? > > Not a problem at all. The setup for this can be quite involved - your > best bet would be going with a dedicated Asterisk distribution such as > Trixbox. It will install a Redhat based OS on a machine (wiping > everything else!) with all the asterisk goodies you'll need to get > started. www.trixbox.org has all the goodies. > > BB > Kevin, what you are asking is very possible with Asterisk, as it is a very flexible system whose behaviour is basically dependant upon how you set up the dialplan. However, where my opinion would differ with Ben is that I would recommend going with standard Asterisk on the distribution your are most comfortable with administering. Trixbox is technically a fork of Asterisk with an included GUI and is aimed at persons unfaimilar with the Linux CLI. It can be a useful tool to learn off in some cases, but unfortunately it masks a lot of the functionality of Asterisk and you will find very little support for it from experienced Asterisk users and VoIP experts. A good starting point for learning Asterisk is the O'Reily book "Asterisk: The Future of Telephony" which is available for free download at: http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 In the next one or two months I hope to give a presentation at SLUG on Asterisk, so keep a look out for that. If you have any troubles with your setup, #asterisk on Freenode IRC is usually a fairly good resource. Regards, Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Has anyone tried Asterisk?
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:18:54PM +1000, Simon Males wrote: > >>I would like to use my desktops as phones. That means that my PCs > >>(both windows and Linux) > >>and Notebook Pro will need to be able to answer the call and allow us > >>to talk back. > >> > >>Is what I am planning possible? > > > >Not a problem at all. The setup for this can be quite involved - your > >best bet would be going with a dedicated Asterisk distribution such as > >Trixbox. It will install a Redhat based OS on a machine (wiping > >everything else!) with all the asterisk goodies you'll need to get > >started. www.trixbox.org has all the goodies. > > > >BB > > > > Ditto what BB said but using Desktops as phone's is bad. The use of VoIP > should be transparent. Get dedicated VoIP handsets or the cheaper option > is to get an ATA (Analog Telephone Adapter). Which allows you to use a > normal handset. Hello Simon, I'm curious as to why using desktops as telephones is "bad"? I understand it is unnecesary complication for a lot of non-technical users. But I find I prefer using a desktop with a headset especially for longer phone calls, it is more comfortable than holding a phone to your head for ages. Regards, Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Has anyone tried Asterisk?
On 16/10/06, Jon Teh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm curious as to why using desktops as telephones is "bad"?I understand it is unnecesary complication for a lot of non-technical users.But I find I prefer using a desktop with a headset especially for longer phone calls, it is more comfortable than holding a phone to your headfor ages.Of course it's a matter for personal preferences but:1. You can get phones with headsets too (e.g. ones which have a headset socket to attach to their handset), so this can't be a serious advantage for the computer. 2. You can get up and walk over somewhere else in the office to do other stuff while talking (e.g. check something in a cabinet, make a cup of tea).3. You are not 100% bound to the computer in case you HAVE to take it down or it is otherwise not available while you want to make a call. Personally - I shelled out 130AU$ for an ATA (A Sipura 3000, and I consider myself to be as cheap as you can find) just to be able to talk over an el-cheapo regular wireless phone using VoIP.Cheers, --P -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New St George HTML based online banking interface
When logging in, you'll have the option of going to the Java based interface or the new (HTML) interface. Posting this as some time ago Sluggers were having issues with the Java interface. http://www.stgeorge.com.au/ -- Simon Males <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New St George HTML based online banking interface
Never had any issues with the java based one... The migration is a gradual one, so not all people may have access to it yet. I've only just got switched across yesterday... On 10/16/06, Simon Males <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When logging in, you'll have the option of going to the Java based interface or the new (HTML) interface. Posting this as some time ago Sluggers were having issues with the Java interface. http://www.stgeorge.com.au/ -- Simon Males <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Menno Schaaf aka ginji irc.austnet.org #gentoo #linux-help -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New St George HTML based online banking interface
On 10/16/06, Simon Males <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When logging in, you'll have the option of going to the Java based interface or the new (HTML) interface. Awesome. I wrote them a (hard copy) letter complaining about the Java interface a few months ago. I just got a standard response, but maybe it did end up helping them see the light. I'll definitely consider an account with them now. I was tossing up them and ING for an online saver a while back and it was the Java interface that had the most impact on my decision. Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Has anyone tried Asterisk?
Jon Teh wrote: But I find I prefer using a desktop with a headset especially for longer phone calls, it is more comfortable than holding a phone to your head for ages. What I'd like is a PCI card which acts as a DECT base station and can be used by Asterisk. If you know of such a card please mail me. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New St George HTML based online banking interface
This one time, at band camp, Ben wrote: > Awesome. I wrote them a (hard copy) letter complaining about the Java > interface a few months ago. I just got a standard response, but maybe > it did end up helping them see the light. I think you underestimate the amount of time a bank will spend developing something like this ;) I bet they had other reasons for doing it. Namely that the point of the old Java interface was no longer there. Back when they started it, Javascript barely worked in any browser and cross-platform were really difficult and tedious. Still, I'm a bit disappointed that they still don't support Firefox but support Nutscrape[1]. Does anyone even use Nutscrape 7.02 in the real world?[2] Regardless, it works fine in Firefox. [1]: https://www.stgeorge.com.au/int_bank/about/system_information/requirements.asp [2] Seemingly not: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2006/September/browser.php -- Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Geeks need vacations too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ While middle England keeps swinging its loyalty No concern for the future Just with dead royalty So will the Real Great Britain step forward This is the national identity parade Shoe gazer nation forever looking backwards Time to reject the sixties charade - Asian Dub Foundation: Real Great Britain -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New St George HTML based online banking interface
Menno Schaaf wrote: > Never had any issues with the java based one... The migration is a > gradual one, so not all people may have access to it yet. I've only > just got switched across yesterday... I never had any issues with the java based one either, but then I followed the advice at http://puzzling.org/computing/help/banking, which maintained the current wisdom of java versions and magic URLs from the SLUG list. Judging from previous threads, the java version caused trouble for many people. The new HTML based one seems to work just fine in epiphany (except when the entire service is too busy or down for maintenance... I guess it's still a bit new). I'm happy with it. -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Has anyone tried Asterisk?
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:19:59PM +0930, Glen Turner wrote: > Jon Teh wrote: > > >But I find I prefer using a desktop with a headset especially for longer > >phone calls, it is more comfortable than holding a phone to your head > >for ages. > > What I'd like is a PCI card which acts as a DECT base station > and can be used by Asterisk. If you know of such a card please > mail me. A quick Google search has netter only a couple of results, and what I've seen so far seem to be Windows only equipment. I guess the only non-Windows option for now would be an FXS port plus a DECT base station. Regards, Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Has anyone tried Asterisk?
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:20:53AM +1000, Penedo wrote: > On 16/10/06, Jon Teh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I'm curious as to why using desktops as telephones is "bad"? > > > >I understand it is unnecesary complication for a lot of non-technical > >users. > > > >But I find I prefer using a desktop with a headset especially for longer > >phone calls, it is more comfortable than holding a phone to your head > >for ages. > > > Of course it's a matter for personal preferences but: > > 1. You can get phones with headsets too (e.g. ones which have a headset > socket to attach to their handset), so this can't be a serious advantage for > the computer. > 2. You can get up and walk over somewhere else in the office to do other > stuff while talking (e.g. check something in a cabinet, make a cup of tea). > 3. You are not 100% bound to the computer in case you HAVE to take it down > or it is otherwise not available while you want to make a call. > > Personally - I shelled out 130AU$ for an ATA (A Sipura 3000, and I consider > myself to be as cheap as you can find) just to be able to talk over an > el-cheapo regular wireless phone using VoIP. > Penedo, 1. Well I believe the serious advantage there is ~$12 for a headset vs. over $150 for an FXS port plus phone with headset. 2. This is true, but you still need to shell out for a cordless phone to do this. You can also get bluetooth adapters for PCs which could perform a similar function. An ATA sounds like a good solution for what you need to do, some people are too cheap even to spend that sort of money. :) I personally think softphones come into their own for testing setups with Asterisk and what not, as you can get them for quite a few different VoIP protocols and are easy to reconfigure. At the moment I just use a softphone for my home use, but I should be getting some telephones in once I've configured up my new T1 PCI card and channel bank. Regards, Jon2. This is true, but you still need to shell out for a cordless phone to do this. You can also get bluetooth adapters for PCs which could perform a similar function. An ATA sounds like a good solution for what you need to do, some people are too cheap even to spend that sort of money. :) I personally think softphones come into their own for testing setups with Asterisk and what not, as you can get them for quite a few different VoIP protocols and are easy to reconfigure. At the moment I just use a softphone for my home use, but I should be getting some telephones in once I've configured up my new T1 PCI card and channel bank. Regards, Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New St George HTML based online banking interface
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 05:10:01 +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: > Still, I'm a bit disappointed that they still don't support Firefox but That's not what they told me when I first started using the new HTML interface a few months ago, and on this page: https://www.stgeorge.com.au/int_bank/support/technical.asp they state that Firefox *is* supported, although only on Windows and Mac. > Regardless, it works fine in Firefox. It does. It doesn't work in Mozilla though. Cheers, John -- Just pause and think for a moment; someone must have been paid real money to re-implement _drive letters_. -- James Riden -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New St George HTML based online banking interface
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 02:26:41PM +1000, Andrew Bennetts wrote: > Menno Schaaf wrote: > > Never had any issues with the java based one... The migration is a > > gradual one, so not all people may have access to it yet. I've only > > just got switched across yesterday... > > I never had any issues with the java based one either, but then I followed the > advice at http://puzzling.org/computing/help/banking, which maintained the > current wisdom of java versions and magic URLs from the SLUG list. Judging > from > previous threads, the java version caused trouble for many people. > > The new HTML based one seems to work just fine in epiphany (except when the > entire service is too busy or down for maintenance... I guess it's still a bit > new). I'm happy with it. > > -Andrew. Unlike the current Westpac version that attempts to get around "keyloggers" by using an on-screen keyboard in alphabetical order, which makes it obvious to anyone looking over your shoulder what your password is. On top of this, only capital letters and numbers are actually acceptable as password characters. metrics -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] image spam counter measures ?
* On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 11:03:13AM +1000, Martin Barry wrote: > $quoted_author = "Voytek Eymont" ; > > > > just curious what people are doing to counter image spam combined with > > dummy text ? > > for those using spamassassin... > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin When setting up the log files for FuzzyOcr, what ownership/permissions should I use for the log and hashdb files? I used 666 just to get it going, but would like to tighten it up. I presume the account that SpamAssassin runs under - how do I work out which a/c that is? -- Sonia Hamilton. GPG key A8B77238. . One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them. One OS to call them all, And in salvation bind them. In the bright land of Linux, Where the hackers play. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New St George HTML based online banking interface
This one time, at band camp, Byron Hillis wrote: > Unlike the current Westpac version that attempts to get around > "keyloggers" by using an on-screen keyboard in alphabetical order, which > makes it obvious to anyone looking over your shoulder what your password > is. On top of this, only capital letters and numbers are actually > acceptable as password characters. Citibank (more commonly known as Shittybank in my household) UK also do this. It's really dumb since the places you're most likely to get stung is Internet cafes and the like, where someone could look over your shoulder. Surely most of the crapware out there that does keylogging can also quite happily screen capture too? Not to mention that 6,000 pounds was transferred from my account to an account in Germany without my knowledge. And given that my password is secure and I know my desktops are secure, it could only have happened because of a major break in their own security. Not that this meant I didn't have to sit through a mind-numbing questionnaire (Do you have anti-virus software installed?) from their call centre monkeys. It gets worse though. Barclays (also UK) require you to enter a six-digit Internet-only PIN, a password and a memorable word. So much information that you use rarely that you write it down. Of course. I bet they have a lovely certificate from their security auditor though, and that makes it AOK with the suits. -- Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Nerds need vacations too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ When the Rapture comes, can I have your stuff? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] image spam counter measures ?
On 16/10/06, Sonia Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When setting up the log files for FuzzyOcr, what ownership/permissionsshould I use for the log and hashdb files? I used 666 just to get itgoing, but would like to tighten it up.I presume the account that SpamAssassin runs under - how do I work out which a/c that is?Uhh, without getting too specific about the SA's setup - you can probably just fuser(1) the file and see which process access it and what uid's/gid's this process has.--P -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html