[SLUG] fixing Mixmaster ..

2006-10-29 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi,

I keep getting the following log msg ..

Oct 29 20:26:48 tux AnonMix: [2006/10/29-20:26:48, critical] Cannot
connect to next Mix! 

When I look at /var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/mix.cfg I don't see a a relevant
entry, and the man page is not much clearer.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

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Re: [SLUG] 64 bit Ubuntu

2006-10-29 Thread Andreas Fischer

Hi ashley,
When you change the kernel to a 64bit, or any architecture, your changing
how the core of the OS works, and how it communicates with the software, so
basically this means all the 32bit software you have installed won't work if
you simply replace the kernel and then reboot your system.  Fortunately, due
the flexability of Open source software, the vast majority of software your
likely to have, will probobly have a 64bit version available, with the
exception of CPU specific programs (emulators, etc) and proprietary software
binaries (such as the Flash plugin).

So basically to answer your question, no.  If you want to move to a 64bit
kernel, you need to move everything to 64bit.

Hope this helps

- Andreas

On 10/29/06, Ashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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I recently had a MoBo problem that meant that it was about the same cost
to replace my old Athalon 2400+ with a 64bit system.
Everything seems to work with fine so far, but I was wondering about
switching to the 64bit kernel. Will all the 32 bit apps still work? Can
I just do the kernel/module etc changes and expect all else to work? Is
it worth the effort?

TIA
Ashley
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Re: [SLUG] 64 bit Ubuntu

2006-10-29 Thread Billy Kwong

Not quite. the amd64 architecture does have 32-bit code compatibility. Libc
however is the problem. i.e. 32-bit dynamic binaries would require a 32-bit
libc, amongst other 32-bit libraries that it linked to.

The best way to run 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit Linux installation is via a
32-bit chroot. i.e. a "virtual" installation of a 32-bit Linux installation
inside your 64-bit instruction. There are plenty of instructions on how to
do that out there on the internet, and I suggest you google for "32-bit
chroot in Linux".

Regards,
Bill

On 29/10/06, Andreas Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi ashley,
When you change the kernel to a 64bit, or any architecture, your changing
how the core of the OS works, and how it communicates with the software,
so
basically this means all the 32bit software you have installed won't work
if
you simply replace the kernel and then reboot your system.  Fortunately,
due
the flexability of Open source software, the vast majority of software
your
likely to have, will probobly have a 64bit version available, with the
exception of CPU specific programs (emulators, etc) and proprietary
software
binaries (such as the Flash plugin).

So basically to answer your question, no.  If you want to move to a 64bit
kernel, you need to move everything to 64bit.

Hope this helps

- Andreas

On 10/29/06, Ashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I recently had a MoBo problem that meant that it was about the same cost
> to replace my old Athalon 2400+ with a 64bit system.
> Everything seems to work with fine so far, but I was wondering about
> switching to the 64bit kernel. Will all the 32 bit apps still work? Can
> I just do the kernel/module etc changes and expect all else to work? Is
> it worth the effort?
>
> TIA
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Re: [SLUG] NSLU2 Stories

2006-10-29 Thread Joseph Goncalves
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 16:22, Simon Males wrote:
> Hello Sluggers
>
>   It's been brought to my attention that the Linksys NSLU2 runs Linux
> and that there are projects in existence creating custom firmware.
> Much like the WRT54G.
You can get Debian installed on the NSLU2 too 
(http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/)
>
> I am contemplating in buying one, but would like to hear if any
> sluggers have any success stories and in there own experiments.
I haven't found a real need for it yet. I have read about people who 
have installed Music Player Daemon on it to make it a little music 
player device.

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Re: [SLUG] 64 bit Ubuntu

2006-10-29 Thread jam
On Monday 30 October 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi ashley,
> When you change the kernel to a 64bit, or any architecture, your changing
> how the core of the OS works, and how it communicates with the software, so
> basically this means all the 32bit software you have installed won't work
> if you simply replace the kernel and then reboot your system.  Fortunately,
> due the flexability of Open source software, the vast majority of software
> your likely to have, will probobly have a 64bit version available, with the
> exception of CPU specific programs (emulators, etc) and proprietary
> software binaries (such as the Flash plugin).
>
> So basically to answer your question, no.  If you want to move to a 64bit
> kernel, you need to move everything to 64bit.
>
> Hope this helps

I don't know how Ubuntu fares here BUT SuSE has 32bit libs so
[tigger] /home/jam [54]% uname -a
Linux tigger 2.6.16.21-0.25-smp #1 SMP Tue Sep 19 07:26:15 UTC 2006 x86_64 
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

and I run 
32Bit Mozilla (for flash)
32Bit Xine for all the Win32 codec support eg something.wmv that people send
32Bit skype [no options]

So you can get all the 32Bit support you need. In addition running 32Bit OS on 
my AMD meant that cool-n-quiet did NOT work. Only runs on 64 eg [snipped 
lots]

[tigger] /home/jam [55]% cat /proc/cpuinfo 
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 43
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1000.000
[snip]
power management: ts fid vid ttp

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 43
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1000.000
[snip]

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[SLUG] CFLAGS for x86_64 gentoo

2006-10-29 Thread Kazik Malenczak
I have an Intel Pentium 4 HT which on closer examination I found to be 64 
bit. I am running Sabayon on it fine but I would like to know what CFLAGS i 
would need to use. The CPU says its a Prescott with SSE3 (PNI) and EM64T. 
Can i use march=prescott -msse3 with  CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"  ??? Or 
does prescott imply 32 bit? I also read that march=nocona should be used as 
per a Xeon.


Any thought anyone?

Thanks

Kaz


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[SLUG] bit torrent and firewall config

2006-10-29 Thread Peter Miller
Here is a picture of my network

---.  ,--.  ,.
\ |  |  ||
N++   Firewall   +---DMZ+  ADSL  +-- - -  - isp
/ |  || | Modem  |
---'  `--'| `'
 ,+.
 |   Web   |
 |  Server |
 `-'

There are sev eral/numerous machines behind the firewall.  Both the
firewall machine and the ADSL modem use NAT.  Incoming parts are mostly
off.  Incoming HTTP is forwarded to the DMZ web server.  Incoming ssh is
forwarded to the firewall to be forwarded to a machine further in.

Here is my question: is there a BitTorrent proxy such that

1. the machine labeled "Web Server" runs some kind of application level
BT proxy  [NOT port forwarding]

2. Firewall machine redirects outgoing connections to port 6969 to the
BT proxy on the web server.  This implies the the item 1 software is an
application level proxy and which submits the same 6969 request to the
real destination, and watches the answers.

3. incoming ports 6681..N are forwarded by the ADSL modem to the same
port on the web server machine, which software item 1 handles.
Additional data streams from these incoming streams are concentrated
into the 6969 data that the client inside the firewall sees.

4. Some kind of "delete the oldest" mechanism for the torrent caches on
the web server machine, so that it only uses a fixed amount of storage.

I see this as working because the only connection from inside to the DMZ
is 6969, and clients can receive data over 6969, just "slower".  Except
that at local network speeds, this "slower" is faster than my ADSL
connection by more than an order of magnitude and should not be a
problem.

Why this is appealing:
* arbitrary number of machines behind the firewall
* no magic number per-host inward port forwarding.
* This is where my own seed torrents will be located, so it's going to
have some port redirects no matter what.


Is this method practical or even possible?
Is there software out there already that does this?
What's it called?

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[SLUG] Experiences or opinions on runit for Booting Debian

2006-10-29 Thread Michael Lake

Hi all

With a new latop I'm thinking of installing runit which is a sysvinit 
replacement.
I have a few sites from googling which cover how to install it (install 3 Debian 
packages, adjust the grub bootloader menu and your set).


However has anyone here actually used it and converted from sysvinit to runit?

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Re: [SLUG] Experiences or opinions on runit for Booting Debian

2006-10-29 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Michael Lake wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> With a new latop I'm thinking of installing runit which is a sysvinit 
> replacement.
> I have a few sites from googling which cover how to install it (install 3 
> Debian 
> packages, adjust the grub bootloader menu and your set).
> 
> However has anyone here actually used it and converted from sysvinit to runit?

I tried it a couple of months ago and it didn't work. I wasn't
prepared to stuff around with it so I reverted to whatever is standard.

You might want to look in the SLUG archives for my comments at the
time.

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Re: [SLUG] Experiences or opinions on runit for Booting Debian

2006-10-29 Thread Michael Lake

Hi

Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:

Michael Lake wrote:

With a new latop I'm thinking of installing runit which is a sysvinit 
replacement.
I have a few sites from googling which cover how to install it (install 3 Debian 
packages, adjust the grub bootloader menu and your set).

However has anyone here actually used it and converted from sysvinit to runit?


Erik wrote:

I tried it a couple of months ago and it didn't work. I wasn't
prepared to stuff around with it so I reverted to whatever is standard.
You might want to look in the SLUG archives for my comments at the
time.
Erik


Thanks

Yes I see Erik tried it in May 2006 band wrote;
"At this point it complained about a missing directory /etc/runit
so I backed out all the changes."

Well at least you could back out. I didn't see much on how to undo it.
I see there is also another new init scheme which I will need to look at also: 
http://www.initng.org/wiki/Install_Debian_Ubuntu


I'm just keen to have a faster booting system on a laptop.

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Re: [SLUG] Removing unwanted "thumbnail" files

2006-10-29 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Leslie" == Leslie Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Leslie> Michael Chesterton wrote:
Leslie> When I look at the man page for "find", I see that "-atime
Leslie> /n/" means file was last accessed /n/*24 hours ago, while
Leslie> "-ctime /n/" means file's status was last changed /n/*24 hours
Leslie> ago. However, I don't really grasp the significance of that
Leslie> difference for present purposes.

atime: When the file was last read or written to.
ctime: when the inode (metadata) was last changed.  Metadata changes
   that are tracked include file creation, change of ownership,
   change of permissions.


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Re: [SLUG] Removing unwanted "thumbnail" files

2006-10-29 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:06:53AM +1100, Peter Chubb wrote:
> > "Leslie" == Leslie Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Leslie> Michael Chesterton wrote:
> Leslie> When I look at the man page for "find", I see that "-atime
> Leslie> /n/" means file was last accessed /n/*24 hours ago, while
> Leslie> "-ctime /n/" means file's status was last changed /n/*24 hours
> Leslie> ago. However, I don't really grasp the significance of that
> Leslie> difference for present purposes.

You should almost never use atime or ctime in find; mtime
is almost always what you're after.  In particular, atime
is useless if you do backups since it will always reflect
the time of the last backup or greater.

> atime: When the file was last read or written to.
> ctime: when the inode (metadata) was last changed.  Metadata changes
>that are tracked include file creation, change of ownership,
>change of permissions.

A nice way to see the differences is to play with the 'stat' command:

$ touch eg
$ stat --printf=" atime=%x\n mtime=%y\n ctime=%z\n" eg
 atime=2006-10-30 14:47:13.0 +1100
 mtime=2006-10-30 14:47:13.0 +1100
 ctime=2006-10-30 14:47:13.0 +1100
$ echo fish > eg# should change mtime
$ stat --printf=" atime=%x\n mtime=%y\n ctime=%z\n" eg
 atime=2006-10-30 14:47:13.0 +1100
 mtime=2006-10-30 14:47:35.0 +1100
 ctime=2006-10-30 14:47:35.0 +1100
$ cat eg# should change atime only
fish
$ stat --printf=" atime=%x\n mtime=%y\n ctime=%z\n" eg
 atime=2006-10-30 14:48:01.0 +1100
 mtime=2006-10-30 14:47:35.0 +1100
 ctime=2006-10-30 14:47:35.0 +1100
$ 
$ chmod go-wr eg# should change ctime only
$ stat --printf=" atime=%x\n mtime=%y\n ctime=%z\n" eg
 atime=2006-10-30 14:48:01.0 +1100
 mtime=2006-10-30 14:47:35.0 +1100
 ctime=2006-10-30 14:48:14.0 +1100
$ echo dog > eg
$ stat --printf=" atime=%x\n mtime=%y\n ctime=%z\n" eg
 atime=2006-10-30 14:48:01.0 +1100
 mtime=2006-10-30 14:48:33.0 +1100
 ctime=2006-10-30 14:48:33.0 +1100

Note that ctime is always greater than or equal to mtime
since mtime changes the node info, (in particular the
size attribute I guess!)

Matt

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[SLUG] SCLUG Meeting

2006-10-29 Thread James Purser
Howdy Sluggers,

For this weeks SCLUG meeting we're going to be hearing from Grant
McDonald on:

Giving Back to the Open Source Community and Getting Paid For It - A
Developer's Perspective

Meeting kicks off at 7:30pm at the Wollongong Tennis Club in the Beaton
Sports Center.

For more information you can click: http://www.sclug.asn.au/?q=node/9

We are also holding an informal drinks before the meeting for those who
would be interested in setting up an OSIA meetup in Wollongong.


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Re: [SLUG] NSLU2 Stories

2006-10-29 Thread Joseph Goncalves
On Monday 30 October 2006 10:04, Joseph Goncalves wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 16:22, Simon Males wrote:
> > Hello Sluggers
> >
> > It's been brought to my attention that the Linksys NSLU2 runs
> > Linux and that there are projects in existence creating custom
> > firmware. Much like the WRT54G.
>
> You can get Debian installed on the NSLU2 too
> (http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/)
>
> > I am contemplating in buying one, but would like to hear if any
> > sluggers have any success stories and in there own experiments.
>
> I haven't found a real need for it yet. I have read about people who
> have installed Music Player Daemon on it to make it a little music
> player device.
I have a crazy idea and would like to gage some expert opinion. How 
about making using number of NSLU2 devices as a distributed file system 
server using the Coda or AFS distributed file systems? I'm wondering 
how reliable and fast this would be compared to a centralised computer 
with a software based raid array or equivalent (with LVM2). 

I would anticipate that Coda or AFS would take care of the replication 
and load balancing across the NSLU2 based nodes and would anticipate 
that over a 100M ethernet that say 4 or 5 devices would perform quite 
nicely and reliably, but am open to see what other people would say 
about this because I have no experience with AFS or Coda. What 
benchmarks should I use to test this out?

Regards
Joseph
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