RE: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
I know there is no perfect solution. TV has always been censored throughout Australia. If TV becomes and online? What happens if it is uncensored? Mum and Dad who don't know how to filter their own web content what do they do? I know my grandfather cant use his mobile phone let alone filter internet content. Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of david Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 3:30 PM To: Rev Simon Rumble; slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Fortress err Firewall Australia Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, James Purser wrote: Here's a radical suggestion, why don't we mandate that ISP's must offer a filtered service and see who actually picks it up. Instead of forcing Telly Tubby land on everyone, give it to those who want it, and leave the rest of us who are able to take responsibility for our internet usage alone. I know it's out of fashion this week, but how about letting the market decide? There are already ISPs that provide a filtered service. great idea... I wonder what they filter? I wonder if they tell their customers... I wonder if they tell their customers when they *change* what they filter? I wonder if they have political views? Religious affiliations? Food prejudices? So much to think about. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
Has anyone seen this; http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/NEWS/PDFs/081016_copyrouter.pdf SMITH GARETH wrote: I know there is no perfect solution. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
AUSTRALIA is the pilot! Sounds like Paypal. Are we so gullible? Kyle wrote: Has anyone seen this; http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/NEWS/PDFs/081016_copyrouter.pdf -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
To summarise: This router disables all transport compression, and man-in-the-middles or disables all transport encryption, then relies on the police to send the network operator a list of every single child porn url and file hash in the entire world... What could possibly go wrong? Adam K 2008/10/21 Kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone seen this; http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/NEWS/PDFs/081016_copyrouter.pdf SMITH GARETH wrote: I know there is no perfect solution. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] RE: Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
(Beware: bottom poster - no innuendo intended) James Purser [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also do not need to be subjected to a Telly Tubby friendly internet for the sake of the children. China filters the whole internet to the country... In other words Hey look, a nation well known for abusing basic human rights is doing it, so let's do it as well. Yeah while we're at it, let's jail people for joining a religion or we could try bringing back the death penalty. Our internet connections are already filtered and intercepted so why not filter the extra CRAP like PORN out. Isn't that my choice? Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. It doesn't work. 2. Who decides what is appropriate and what isn't? Feel free to install whatever filtering system you would like on YOUR internet connection. The government even provides the software for free. Me, I'll stick to my own thanks! China filters the whole internet to the country and this works for them No, it doesn't work. What it blocks is trivial access to sites like CNN, BBC and ABC. A few obvious porn sites (playboy, penthouse) are blocked, while the rest are open. A local would be locked up in a prison for ideological offenders. This is the model we want for Australia? James Purser [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 13:44 +1100, James Purser wrote: Yeah while we're at it, let's jail people for joining a religion or we could try bringing back the death penalty. Don't forget torture, forced abortions and mutilations while we're at it. Okay, okay, okay. But other than that, it's a good idea isn't it, this ISP filtering the 'net for the Govmint man? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RE: Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
Okay, okay, okay. But other than that, it's a good idea isn't it, this ISP filtering the 'net for the Govmint man? One problem that arises is that because this is an 'opt-out' strategy, by opting out you may be put onto a list of deviants that could be used in a variety of illegitimate ways - both from a malicious government (eg, sanctioned eavesdropping warrants etc), and even from the less scrupulous individuals within the government that may or may not have access to the list of deviants through the course of their duties - some people may use this information for blackmail on people who don't wish to be named as having opt-ed out, particularily because for the most bizare and shocking of reasons, being an opponent of filtering puts you in the pro-kiddie-porn camp in some people's and some media organisation's eyes. Another problem is that this filtering could be used for political reasons - eg, filtering out sites that are critical of the government and/or it's policies (and combined with the above it becomes particularly awesome). Although we have no solid laws enshrining Free Speech, we do have an implicit expectation of it in Australia, and I think this community esspecially should be doubly cautious of anything that could impact that expectation. And another one sort of related to the last - this could also be used for less than desirable commercial reasons - politians with a somewhat tenuous understanding of emerging technologies (ie, all of them) may be easily swayed by campaign contributing corprate entities interested only in their bottom line - you could find the filtering technology bent toward blocking p2p protocols for instance because the government received advice that it was only used for illegal reasons. And of course the (already mentioned) fact that there was, at one stage at least, a suggestion that https be forcibily decrypted so that the authorities can snoop on your encrypted transactions, breaking any notion of trust on the web. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bluetooth a2dp volume control????
I have seen this and have this same issue with my USB headset and when I used to use my A2DP headset, the only way I found to play with the volume was with the buttons on the side that plugged into the gnome sound manager. So maybe alsa-config? On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Peter Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I've bought myself a bluetooth headset and am streaming audio to it using mplayer. How do I control its volume? Usually, hitting / or * decreases or increases the volume, but mplayer thinks it's sending at 0% volume and it's still a little too loud! The hardest part about making this thing to work at all, BTW, was getting it to peer. If you don't use a gui desktop, you seem to be in trouble. And most of the howtos aren't helpful -- they all assume you have the GTK libraries or have Gnome or something, or are so old that the codebase has moved on a lot. The trick is to put the MAC/Pin pair into /var/lib/bluetooth/DONGLEMAC/pincodes where DONGLEMAC is the mac address of the bluetooth adapter. -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au ERTOS within National ICT Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Regards Morgan Storey,A+, MCSE:Security. Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
surely? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/10/2008 03:13:42 PM: Hi there, Maybe I missed something but the censorship on the website on the original post was to be applied to Australian homes, schools and public computers. If you're a techno head and want to view an UNCENSORED content get an UNCENSORED CONNECTION. EG a business connection and censor it yourself. Since business connections are always more expensive, that only gives the upper class this option, everyone else may have to live with a filtered feed. Now tell me how do you stop your children from connecting to porn sites from their mobile phone? Allow the PARENT to decide if the child needs internet access on their phone AT ALL. Seriously, what child NEEDS internet on their mobile phone? The internet web content is already censored!!! But we don't have control over it. If your under the impression that the internet is uncensored you need to realise that it already is. Illigal content like online gambling and terrorist information is already blocked. Neither is censored, and in my opinion neither should be censored. If I want to (in theory) learn how to make a bomb, who says I don't have that right? Schools and public computers are already censored with strict content filtering policies. Why not filter it at the ISP and not at the client site. Even charaty organistations don't have time or the money to have an IT admin just managing their content on the client side. LET THE ISP'S MANAGE THE FILTERING. I know I don't want to pay for the download of a site that ends up being blocked by my content filter. We are we paying for downloads that we don't want. So you are happy to be told what you can and cannot see? What if your ISP has a political view and decides to filter our certain political views? Just think of an ISP level net nanny managing your multiply internet connections. I think this would be great managing your internet connetions on any device you have. I know I don't want to download something that will be filted. I DON'T WANT PORN. Why shold I pay for the download of a an PORN ADD that I don't want. You can block it. You do realise that most censoring applications REJECT the connection, so you pay for VERY LITTLE if any downloads. By default the SEX companies shouldn't be able to propogate PORN to our children by default. Just like walking through kings cross at night with your children. (Although I understand they have cleaned it up a lot, but I hope you understand my meaning) I used to manage content filters for multiple businesses and managing client side content filters are annoying. I don't want to do this but the reality is we need content filtering!! Who needs it? I certainly DO NOT! especially if it is FORCED on me, without my concent, and without my COMPLETE knowledge of what is being blocked. OK, Lets look at this slightly differently Any child that is determined enough to view porn, Internet Censorship or not, WILL GET PORN! They may use encrypted bittorrent, or another method, but its not hard to get around content filters like these. Internet Censorship should START and END in the home, and the best thing the government can do to help this is EDUCATE the population on the best methods to do this. My favorite two are: 1. Place the computer in a public spot, like the living room, or dining room, so the children fear getting caught. 2. Regardless of if you do or not, let you children know that you log all website connections, but trust them enough to not have to look at those logs. Social problems (and this is a social problem) CANNOT EVER be solved simply with technology. It requires a mix of Education, Technology and persiverance. Regards, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ruxcon 2008
Ruxcon is Australia's premier technical computer security conference, held annually at the University of Technology (UTS), Sydney. After a break in 2007, Ruxcon is back and bigger than ever. Ruxcon brings together the best and the brightest security talent in the Australia-Pacific region through live presentations, activities, and demonstrations. Ruxcon 2008 will be held on the weekend of the 29th of November to the 30th of November at the University of Technology, Sydney. Doors open at 8:30am and the first presentation commences at 9:30am. RUXCON 2008 Presentations [1]: 1. Security Applications for Emulation - Silvio Cesare 2. Intelligent Web Fuzzing - Neil Archibald 3. Attacking the Vista Heap - Ben Hawkes 4. Targetted OLE2 Attacks, The New Black - Peter Taylor 5. Attacking Rich Internet Applications - Kuza55, Stefano Di Paola 6. Introduction to Reverse Engineering - Ashley Fox 7. Now you see it, now you don't! - Obfuscation '08 style... - Nishad Herath 8. Heaps about Heaps - Brett Moore 9. Uninitialized Variables - Finding, Exploiting, Automating - Daniel Hodson 10. JavaScript is Harder than you Think - Paul Ducklin 11. Enterprise Security, Softer than the foam on my Frappuccino - LUMC Crew 12. Pimping: Forensic Style - Adam Daniel 13. SCADA Penetration Testing: Hacking Modbus Enabled Devices - Daniel Grzelak 14. Browser Memory Protection Bypasses in Vista - Mark Dowd 15. None More Black: The Dark Side of SEO - Roberto Suggi 16. Ghost Recon: Subverting Local Networks - Berne Campbell 17. Browser Rider: Your way to Fun Browsing - Nik Mijatovic, Ben Mosse 18. GPU Powered Malware - Daniel Reynaud 19. Google Hacking - Christian Heinrich 20. Netscreen of the Dead: Developing A Trojaned Firmware for Juniper Netscreen Appliances - Graeme Neilson As in previous years, there will be events and competitions, which allow attendees to have fun, win prizes and socialise, all while enjoying a cold beer on an Australian summer's day. Register to reserve your spot at Ruxcon 2008 [2]. Hope to see you there, Regards, Ruxcon 2008 Staff http://www.ruxcon.org.au [1] http://www.ruxcon.org.au/presentations.shtml [2] http://www.ruxcon.org.au/register.shtml -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] LinuxChix/AussieDevChix meeting in Sydney, Lindt Cafe, Darling Harbour, Fri Oct 31, 5:30pm
Aussie(Linux)Chix and AussieDevChix will have their regular joint meeting in Sydney before the Sydney Linux User Group meeting this month. Feel free to forward this message to any women you think might be interested in coming. Date: Friday 31st October 2008 Time: 5:30-6:15pm Location: Lindt Chocolat Cafe, Shop 104-105, Cockle Bay Wharf, Darling Harbour Directions: The Lindt Cafe is on the ground floor of the Cockle Bay Wharf building, between the two halves. Look for the fountain, or alternatively look right under the Blackbird Cafe. Map: http://tinyurl.com/2vdgch RSVP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can men come? Men may come as the guest of a woman attendee. Note that this is not a LinuxChix-wide policy, it is specific to these pre-SLUG meetups. If you RSVP, we can send you a mobile number to call if you can't find us. Afterwards we will go to the SLUG meeting together. See http://www.slug.org.au/node/107 for more details about the SLUG meeting. The Chix meetings in Sydney are organised by Sydney members of AussieChix, the Australian LinuxChix chapter. See http://au.linuxchix.org/ for more about AussieChix. -Melissa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] X11 authentication rejection when trying to start VMs using vmware GUI
Hi all Thanks to James Purser and Gareth. I ended up avoiding the solution to the X11 auth probs by installing the right version of vmware-server-console locally and connecting to the remote server directly from my local box rather than through another servers console. Now I can connect OK. Thanks all. Michael Lake wrote: SMITH GARETH wrote: Have you installed the vmware on your local computer, make sure that it is the same version and try this again. I know when I have used X11 forwarding in the past I required the same version of the software installed locally, so the remote computer application can be displayed on the local computer. I haven't tried this with vmware. No the VMware Server Console is not installed locally. It is only installed on the server. It does not need to be locally installed. What version of vmware are you running? VMware Server Console 1.0.3 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Lake Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 3:27 PM To: slug Subject: [SLUG] X11 authentication rejection when trying to start VMs usingvmware GUI Hi all When try to start a VM I get an error in the console where I started vmware from saying X11 connection refused because of wrong authentication. Details: Local Linux Box logs into remote Linux Server running vmware server. My username is the same on both boxes. local $ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] remote$ vmware The graphical vmware starts up, I select to connect to Local host and click Connect. The GUI runs fine locally now. I can select a VM from the Inventory on the left and it displays the stats of the machines OK. The problem is when try to start a VM I get an error in the console where I started vmware from saying X11 connection refused because of wrong authentication. - On remote box I have /etc/ssh/sshd_config with X11Forwarding yes - I'm using -X with ssh to connect. - I have tried using xhost + on both the local (before ssh connection) and remote machines (before starting vmware) - The .Xauthority on the remove machine is rw for user and its ownership is me:me. - My local ssh-config has ForwardX11 yes Googling says to check all of the above. Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Centre of Expertise Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- Michael Lake Computational Research Centre of Expertise Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. Think. Green. Do. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
SMITH GARETH wrote: Our internet connections are already filtered and intercepted so why not filter the extra CRAP like PORN out. Why are you downloading porn if you don't want it? Adelle. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
