Re: [SLUG] Port fat server to "slim" server - pointers??

2010-12-23 Thread James Gray

On 24/12/2010, at 1:54 PM, Jam wrote:

> On Friday 24 December 2010 09:00:03 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
>>> PS - once jester is doing basic snmp/cacti/squid/etc and the QNAP doing
>>> the "heavy-lifting", I intend under-clocking the little dear from
>>> 2.66GHz to about 1.6GHz :)  Save the planet and all that. I wouldn't
>>> under clock it, it should support dynamic clocking (one presumes) that
>>> will drop the clock pretty low when idle, then bump it up when in use.
>>> This often will save power as the CPU can stay in low power "sleep"
>>> states for longer, at least on the smaller end of the scale.
>> 
>> Yep - will do that as well as under-clocking (which is the plan).  THe
>> under-clocking will also reduce heat and power on the FSB etc. too, which
>> wouldn't happen with dynamic scaling alone AFAIK.  Happy to be proven
>> wrong on this as the CPU barely breaks out of "brrr, I'm freezing, can
>> someone please do something to warm me up" mode, and rarely heats up much
>> beyond ambient, so if I can avoid the under-clockingGREAT!  The two
>> 15k RPM 3.5" 500GB drives though, they generate a metric truck load of
>> heat!!  Hence the reason I'm ditching them for an SSD and external NAS.
> 
> Actually the thought experiment is krap.
> Perth: outside 33C inside 32C cpu clocked normally and doing 'normal' stuff 
> (a 
> couple of VMs, some mythbackend, a firefox or two, kmail, gnome desktop) is 
> idling along at 1G and 37C
> 
> [haycorn] /home/jam [1999]% cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family: 15
> model : 107
> model name: AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350

Cool :)  Here's the results from my fat server after some mild load doing some 
big DB queries for the last 5min:
processor   : 0-3 (edited by moi)
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 16
model   : 2
model name  : AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor

Ambient now is 26C.

# sensors
atk0110-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
Vcore Voltage:   +1.12 V  (min =  +0.85 V, max =  +1.60 V)
 +3.3 Voltage:   +3.34 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
 +5 Voltage: +5.07 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
 +12 Voltage:   +12.16 V  (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V)
CPU FAN Speed:  2376 RPM  (min =  600 RPM)
CPU Temperature: +43.0°C  (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)  
MB Temperature:  +41.0°C  (high = +45.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)

# for drive in sda sdb
> do
> smartctl -A /dev/$drive | grep 194
> done
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   104   084   000Old_age   Always   
-   43
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   107   087   000Old_age   Always   
-   40

Mind you, I have a trio of 25mm fans screaming at 6000RPM just to keep the two 
hard drives below 60C!  So even with seriously annoying cooling (another reason 
to ditch the 15K drives)  and relatively cool day, the CPU ran up from 
29C->43C, but the HDDs barely change with extra I/O.  If I throw something 
bigger at it, like transcoding streaming media to my PS3, the CPU will easily 
hit 70C...hence the reason I don't do it much.

I'm interested in seeing how much (if any) power consumption drops (and 
corresponding heat) with under-clocking on consumer-grade kit.  I haven't seen 
an quantitative studies on the subject so I want to do the experiment myself :) 
 Every pushes for bigger/faster/more...I'm curious about taking big/fast/more 
and putting the skids on it.

Thanks for the input.

Cheers,

James

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Re: [SLUG] pdf nup that preserves hyperlinks?

2010-12-23 Thread david



pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:

"Andrew" == Andrew Cowie  writes:


Andrew>  On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 15:02 +1100, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:

and produces PDFs.  So, is there a reasonable way to munge the PDF
file into two-up, and keep hyperlinks?


Andrew> Did you try pdftk? It's a pretty good swiss army knife.

I checked it out -- it doesn't do page combining, at least as far as I
could see.


combining? as in "cat"? pdftk has a cat function that I've occasionally 
used and works fine. My cases didn't have hyperlinks anyway, so I can't 
comment on that.


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Re: [SLUG] Port fat server to "slim" server - pointers??

2010-12-23 Thread Jam
On Friday 24 December 2010 09:00:03 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
> > PS - once jester is doing basic snmp/cacti/squid/etc and the QNAP doing
> > the "heavy-lifting", I intend under-clocking the little dear from
> > 2.66GHz to about 1.6GHz :)  Save the planet and all that. I wouldn't
> > under clock it, it should support dynamic clocking (one presumes) that
> > will drop the clock pretty low when idle, then bump it up when in use.
> > This often will save power as the CPU can stay in low power "sleep"
> > states for longer, at least on the smaller end of the scale.
> 
> Yep - will do that as well as under-clocking (which is the plan).  THe
> under-clocking will also reduce heat and power on the FSB etc. too, which
> wouldn't happen with dynamic scaling alone AFAIK.  Happy to be proven
> wrong on this as the CPU barely breaks out of "brrr, I'm freezing, can
> someone please do something to warm me up" mode, and rarely heats up much
> beyond ambient, so if I can avoid the under-clockingGREAT!  The two
> 15k RPM 3.5" 500GB drives though, they generate a metric truck load of
> heat!!  Hence the reason I'm ditching them for an SSD and external NAS.

Actually the thought experiment is krap.
Perth: outside 33C inside 32C cpu clocked normally and doing 'normal' stuff (a 
couple of VMs, some mythbackend, a firefox or two, kmail, gnome desktop) is 
idling along at 1G and 37C

[haycorn] /home/jam [1999]% cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 107
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
apicid  : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 
3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic 
cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch lbrv
bogomips: 2000.32
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps

processor   : 1
pretty much ditto
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Re: [SLUG] pdf nup that preserves hyperlinks?

2010-12-23 Thread peter
> "Andrew" == Andrew Cowie  writes:

Andrew>  On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 15:02 +1100, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:
>> and produces PDFs.  So, is there a reasonable way to munge the PDF
>> file into two-up, and keep hyperlinks?

Andrew> Did you try pdftk? It's a pretty good swiss army knife.

I checked it out -- it doesn't do page combining, at least as far as I
could see.

Andrew> And meanwhile, package pdfjam [scripts] apparently has a
Andrew> `pdfnum` so that might do the trick and seems to depend on a
Andrew> toolchain along the lines of what you're happy with.

pdfjam contains pdfnup with doesn't preserve hyperlinks in PDF files.
pdfnum isn't in the pdfjam package AFAIK --- at least, not in the
version packaged for Debian.


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Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block

2010-12-23 Thread Ken Foskey
I was there for that discussion. That does not cover what is in my opinion 
spam.  Facebook and linkedin have their place but not in the context of this 
list.

Ken Foskey

Ps: I use facebook and linkedin regularly. 

On 23/12/2010, at 12:54 PM, James Polley  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Nick Andrew  wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:51:56AM +1100, Nigel Allen wrote:
>>> I have already complained to linkedin - not received a response yet.
>> 
>> I'm not sure how linkedin can know that slug@slug.org.au is a mailing
>> list and not an individual's email address.
>> 
>> Presumably the slug list should reject email from non-subscribers, or
>> alternately send a confirm request to the sender (which will eliminate
>> automated emails like linkedin).
> 
> A formal motion passed at a general meeting in 2003 requires that the
> SLUG mailing lists not reject email from non-subscribers, or even
> force such emails to be moderated.
> 
> http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2003/10/msg00645.html has
> details on the proposed options and the voting.
> 
>> 
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Re: [SLUG] pdf nup that preserves hyperlinks?

2010-12-23 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 15:02 +1100, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:
>and produces PDFs.  So, is
>there a reasonable way to munge the PDF file into two-up, and keep
>hyperlinks? 

Did you try pdftk? It's a pretty good swiss army knife.

And meanwhile, package pdfjam [scripts] apparently has a `pdfnum` so
that might do the trick and seems to depend on a toolchain along the
lines of what you're happy with.

AfC
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