Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)

[James Dumay]

Because no one else will say it _I_ will.

Please refrain from having these sorts of email discussions on the
SLUG mailing lists.

Lots of people just end up being offended and it does nothing to make
SLUG appealing for those subscribed to the list.

Thanks
James

2009/3/22 Aníbal Monsalve Salazar :
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:07:08PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote:
>>Alan L Tyree  writes:
>>>On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:29:32 +1100
>>>Sonia Hamilton  wrote:
PS You might want to lookup what "tonto" means [1] before you go
around calling people it. It was a term of disrespect for Amerindians
on the US/Mexican border in the 1800's. At least be grammatically
correct, and call me "tonta" :-p [1]
http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/tonto
>
> As a native Spanish speaker, I'll take offense if someone calls me
> tonto. BTW, I've spoken to Sonia in Spanish and she speaks that language
> very well.
>
>>>For anyone born in the US during the last century, as I was, Tonto is
>>>the Lone Ranger's faithful Indian companion. When we were kids, it was
>>>worth fighting to be Tonto rather than the paleface. It's probably no
>>>longer politically correct, but for different reasons than those
>>>mentioned.
>
> When I was a little kid, I couldn't understand why the loyal American
> Indian was call "stupid" (tonto/tonta == stupid). The idea burnt in my
> young brain was that all the American indians (from Tierra del Fuego in
> Argentina to Alaska) were all stupid people for the USAians.
>
> BTW (again), I also don't understand why the USA is call America. I'm
> from Colombia and I'm an American. The continent is called America and
> don't tell me it's call Americas.
>
>>Uh, no.  That would be inappropriate for *exactly* the reason mentioned,
>>which is to say that it is an insulting racial epithet.  The fact that
>>it was used in that sense on television doesn't change those facts.
>>
>>So, just because the term was not seen as insulting doesn't make it any
>>less insulting ??? just like "paleface" is.
>
> Aye.
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Re: [SLUG] Calendar Server?

[James Dumay]

TBH, I've never been able to get Zimbra to work correctly for me - it
suffers from timezoning and caldav compatibility issues (Evolution
won't work against the version I am using, at least).

James

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:04 AM, David Kempe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> davical works ok, but the interface sucks to use.
> zimbra is what we are using now for a caldav backend for lightning.
> lightning barfs when you have like over 10 caldav calendars. the backend for
> lightning could do with some work.
>
> dave
>
> Nigel Allen wrote:
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> We are currently evaluating Calendar Servers for a backend to the
>> Lightning plugin for Thunderbird.
>>
>> Shortlisted so far are the Sun Java Calendar Server, Apple's Calendar
>> Server, Bedework and DAViCal.
>>
>> Anyone have any illumination, rumination or cogitation that might assist
>> us?
>>
>> Anyone got any "been there - done that - it was easy" stories to relate?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Nigel.
>>
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Re: [SLUG] DODO

[James Dumay]

I totally recommend Internode - plans are a little more pricey but the speed
is always consistent and so far I've never had to call tech support. When we
connected to internode their support and sales guys have been top notch.

They also have a great software mirror with ubuntu/debian/fedora packages
and the transfers don't go towards your cap.

James

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:14 PM, jam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To my great angst, yet again my ISP has been acquired by iinet, and yet
> again
> I am going to move.
>
>   They won't respond to support mail: 10 over they last year
>   Drew Keating: "The TIO can't MAKE us change anything"
>   iinet are blacklisted as their invoice mail is not RFC compliant
>   ( [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>   
>
> Anybody: comments on DoDo?
> I will run my own mail, dns, www and ssh servers.
> dns is authorative for tigger.ws
>
> Thanks
> James
>
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Re: [SLUG] 5 reasons to avoid iPhone 3G - Free Software Foundation

[James Dumay]

Hey, do you guys remember the last few pages of Animal Farm where you could
not tell the difference between the farmers and the pigs anymore?

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Fyi,
>
> Adam Bogacki.
>
> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/5-reasons-to-avoid-iphone-3g/
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[SLUG] Recent SPAM on SLUG

[James Dumay]

Hey guys,
Im a little concerned with all the recent "Work from Home"/"Get Rich Quick"
spam thats appearing on the ML.

Could someone responsible for the mailinglist spam filter have a look?

Thanks
James
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Re: [SLUG] Gumstix - do they work ?

[James Dumay]

David,
I've played with one a while ago - you can get these things running an arm
version of debian. So yes, you can run python.

I believe you can get both ethernet and wifi in a gumstix. See their website
for more info.

Cheers
James

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:34 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Are these things any good ?
>
> do they run python ? and have net access ?
>
> can somebody demo them at a meeting ?
>
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Re: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone

[James Dumay]

Deepan,
As far as I am aware Linux cannot be run on the iPhone (Im not sure why you
would want to either).

James

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Deepan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> I am wondering if anyone has managed to install
> linux on iphone? I am aware of ipodlinux, for
> ipod. Not sure if someone has hacked into iphone.
> Openmoko is a nice alternative though.
> Regards
> Deepan
> Sudoku Solver: http://www.sudoku-solver.net/
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[SLUG] Nomination: Anna Buttfield

[James Dumay]

I am proud to nominate Anna Buttfield for the position of Ordinary Committee
Member.

Anna has been an integral organiser and liaison venue for the SLUG this
year. She has demonstrated an amazing interest in both the SLUG and Free and
Open Source software community in Sydney and Australia.

I feel Anna will be a invaluable member to this years team if elected.

Anna, I would like to thank you personally for the hard work you have been
doing to make SLUG @ Atlassian possible - without you we would not have been
able to put on such a great monthly event.

-James Dumay
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Re: [SLUG] Auntie excludes us

[James Dumay]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This one time, at band camp, James Dumay wrote:
> >XUL is Mozilla only (open source lockin anyone?)
>
> That's platform-independent!  We're talking a binary blob application
> here, so there's no reason it couldn't be distributed as a custom
> XULrunner binary blob for multiple platforms.  Better yet, release the
> source!


"If you build it, they will come"

Perhaps this would make a good open source project to produce a player (and
perhaps the backend services) needed for Television stations to distribute
their media.

I think the problem here is not so much that they are choosing propriety
solutions intentionally but that there are no viable, free and cross
platform alternatives for their vision of said service.


>
>
> >Its bullshit that people think that this sort of stuff needs to be
> done in
> >flv - embedding an mpeg stream is easy enough todo in HTML.
>
> Indeed, it's insane and there's absolutely no justification.  I'm sure
> it's just that the new media geniuses wouldn't even know to ask if
> there's another way.
>

Its not crazy - its perfectly rational with the tools at hand. The problem
probably centres around branding and customisation - which Flash does very
well.

James
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[SLUG] Firefox trunk builds with ActionMonkey: JavaScript with JIT

[James Dumay]

Hey guys,
I thought Id mention that while rummaging through ftp.mozilla.org I found
out that there are now nightly builds of Firefox with ActionMonkey [1] for
Linux and Mac OS X.

For those who don't know, Action Monkey [2] is the new JavaScript runtime
for Mozilla. It is an amalgamation of the existing SpiderMonkey JavaScript
runtime [3] and Adobe's Tamarin ECMA script Virtual Machine [4].

What this basically all means for users is that the first time you visit a
JavaScript heavy website, that code gets compiled down and cached so that
every time you visit the same page the load and execution of that page is a
_lot_ faster.

Its seriously cool shit.

Check it out :)

James

[1]
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-actionmonkey/
[2] http://wiki.mozilla.org/JavaScript:ActionMonkey#Project_summary
[3] http://www.mozilla.org/js/spidermonkey/
[4] http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/
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Re: [SLUG] Auntie excludes us

[James Dumay]

XUL is Mozilla only (open source lockin anyone?)

Its bullshit that people think that this sort of stuff needs to be done in
flv - embedding an mpeg stream is easy enough todo in HTML.

James

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This one time, at band camp, James Purser wrote:
>
> > With regard to your query regarding a Linux version - due to the
> > technical requirements of ABC Now we have been unable to find a
> > robust and secure tool for making the Flash based code into a stable
> > Linux version at this time.
>
> Translation:
> We made a technology decision without reference to portability.  You pay
> the price.
>
> > We are keeping an eye on developments in this area and hope to bring
> > a Linux version to you as soon as practicable.
>
> XULRunner, anyone?!?!?
>
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Re: [SLUG] Nomination: Sridhar Dhanapalan for President

[James Dumay]

I also second.

I think we are extremely lucky to have a person like Sridhar as a member our
community and more so in the role as SLUG president.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Ok, time to kick off the nominations!
>
> I'd like to nominate Sridhar Dhanapalan for the position of President.
>
> Although his current position on the committee may be "Ordinary
> Committee Member" there is nothing ordinary about what he's acheived -
> over the last year Sridhar has demonstrated an outstanding ability in
> leading our community.
>
> He has:
>  * successfully and repeatedly organised meetings and events
>  * engaged with FOSS communities and companies
>  * responded to communications to the committee
>  * followed up on committee actions and tasks
>  * acted as a spokesperson to the media
>
> ...all whilst being an active and enthusiastic member of the SLUG
> community both on the mailing lists, IRC, and at meetings.
>
> Most importantly, I believe he has the vision, determination, and
> commitment to be a successful SLUG President - to build upon and
> better the community we have, forge strong relationships with other
> organisations, and keep everyone in line. :-)
>
> I wholeheartedly endorse Sridhar for this position.
>
> Lindsay
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Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd

[James Dumay]

Sorry! :(

On Dec 2, 2007 4:49 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> James Dumay wrote:
>
> > My flatmate had similar issues to Eric when he upgraded to Gutsy.
>
> I have not now, nor have I ever been called 'Eric'. Its Erik,
> with a 'k' :-).
>
> Erik
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Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd

[James Dumay]

>
> (Which means Tracker doesn't use gconf for this stuff... Holy moly...)
>

Yuck! its not like its bloody hard to hack applications to use GConf!

My flatmate had similar issues to Eric when he upgraded to Gutsy. The
default resource allocation for Tracker is unlimited. So it scanned all 80
gigs of existing data when he first logged in after upgrading.

When I asked him how he liked the new release he replied - "Bloody slow".

- James
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[SLUG] SLUG - People turning up to slug early

[James Dumay]

Hey guys,
Since Atlassian has been hosting SLUG we have had a few people turning up as
early as two hours. There is no good way to say but I cannot be around to
supervise you if you turn up early - I work at Atlassian and the company
does not pay me to help run SLUG.

Meetings usually start at 6.30pm and doors open at 6.00pm.

If due to circumstance you have to arrive early (transport, etc) please hang
out elsewhere until the doors open.

Thanks guys,
James Dumay
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Re: [SLUG] OPENWRT Hack Day 14th Oct

[James Dumay]

Hey I'd be interested in that - I have to work on OpenWRT firmware for LCA08
anyway...


14th of August ? Should be free


James

On 9/27/07, Richard Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear list,
>
> I am interested in organising a OPENWRG Hack day.
>
> Good bits free beer & food & hacking
>
> Bad bits I need help to create a wireless network with captive portal
> similar to
>
> http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=11536
>
> It will be on a Saturday 14th 10.00am - 4.00pm
> Location: Edgecliff  (To be confirmed)
>
> Please respond via email or call me.
>
> Richard Hayes
> 0414 618 425
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Re: [SLUG] SCO delisted from NASDAQ

[James Dumay]

I don't think anyone would benefit from another UNIX.

Darwin anyone?

James

On 9/21/07, Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Well then let's buy what IP we can and then
>
>   Open Source it
>
> :-)
>
> I also am in for $20
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 13:40 +0930, Glen Turner wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 12:43 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:
> > > > So there's still time to rush out and buy me a whole stack of SCO
> shares!
> > > > Yay!
> > >
> > > I was thinking about putting a pool together to buy UNIX from them.
> > >
> > > I'm in for $20.
> >
> > Then you've got a problem, because the heart of SCO's current
> > legal and business issues is that Novell was found by the court
> > to be the owner of UNIX.
> >
> > If you buy a SCO share now, then it's for the share certificate to
> > frame for posterity. Otherwise you are simply making a donation to
> > SCO's creditors -- some of whom are responsible for the SCO
> > ugliness in the first place.
> >
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Re: [SLUG] SCO delisted from NASDAQ

[James Dumay]

It has not been delisted yet and the decision is subject to appeal.

So they have not been delisted from NASDAQ - apparently there is a certain
amount of time between filing chapter 11 and NASAQ delisting your company -
and this reporter is just passing this fact off as news.

~James


On 9/20/07, DaZZa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The final death throes begin...
>
>
> http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/LAW12419092007-1.htm
>
> DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Suspenseful laptops

[James Dumay]

They are not heavy MacBook Pros are.

On 9/13/07, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> > James Dumay wrote:
> > > I find my Apple Macbook really excellent.
> >
> > Me too - mine is a 13" basic white model (Core 2 duo) about a year old
> > (which is old now I guess...) and have suspend to ram and disk working
> > under feisty.
>
> But they're so heavy! Useful for smacking their owners with, but that's
> about all. ;-)
>
> - Jeff
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Re: [SLUG] Suspenseful laptops

[James Dumay]

I find my Apple Macbook really excellent.

As far as I can tell, most of the hardware issues have been fixed in Gutsy.
(wifi driver needs to be installed separately.)

~James

On 9/13/07, James Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend a laptop that is small (11.1 - 13.3 inches),
> reasonably fast, and can do suspend (both to RAM and disk) easily? Oh,
> and that I can buy now; old models aren't so interesting to me. Ubuntu
> is my OS of preference, but if it makes a difference, I'd consider
> switching to something else.
>
> Ta,
>
> James.
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Re: [SLUG] Mac Mini (hardware) alternative

[James Dumay]

Buy a full desktop computer if you want expandable!

The Mac Mini has USB, Firewire, 1gbit ethernet, duel layer dvd burner and
takes any 2.5" notebook harddisk.

What more could you want for about $1k?

James

On 8/17/07, Dean Hamstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have looked long and hard for a machine that matches the mac mini, in
> terms of both features, power and size. You are paying the apple toll
> somewhat, but its still a very cheap machine (although you get nothing
> but a small box)
>
> its amazing that a very usable computer is $1000 these days, i remember
> paying a few thousand for a tandy 1000 ;)
>
> the shuttle XPC's arent bad, they are expandable (unlike macmini),
> but they are quite a lot larger and werent cheaper.
>
> Apple has really found itself a niche, i would buy one for my parents or
> grandparent any day.
>
> Dean
>
> Glen Turner wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 00:29 +1000, Simon Males wrote:
> >
> >>This evening I was given a demonstration of the (intel) Mac Mini.
> >> Very impressive price point for quite a bit of hardware.
> >>
> >> Has anyone purchased an equivalent system in regards to size and price?
> >> My initial thinking was that there would be a truck load of Mac Mini
> >> clones with similar specs, but the mini-itx and shuttle systems float
> >> around $1000.
> >
> > I had a look about when I was considering a Mac Mini.
> >
> > The AOpen Mini PC Duo MP965-DR with Intel Core 2 Duo is what
> > you are looking for. But when I looked I couldn't find a AU
> > company that had put it in a box for less than the Apple edu
> > pricing.
> >
> > The Shuttle XPC mini X200 was released after I looked.
> >
> > I'd stay away from the VIA EPIA machines for a desktop unless you
> > know exactly what you are getting. They are a bit underpowered, which
> > is fine if that is what you want. They do make very fine home
> > servers, if that is what you were shopping for.
> >
> > You are better off not getting a Mac Mini if you are going to
> > run Linux. The Mac needs a special utility that does BIOS
> > emulation (well, at least until X.org gets away from using
> > the BIOS for mode switching) and that utility will only allow
> > 50% of the disk to be used for the non-MacOS operating system.
> >
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Re: [SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists

[James Dumay]

For spams-sake, lets just consider this thread closed.

Cheers
James


On 7/18/07, Craig Dibble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Timothy Bolot wrote:
> Please remove all wildtechnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from 
your lists.

>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:27:08 +1000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [SLUG] SpamAssassin - MailMarshall Replacement


I never even noticed to start with that I had been singled out as the
cause of his outburst.

I wonder if that means I'm on his hitlist now?

Craig

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Re: [SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists

[James Dumay]

No.

On 7/17/07, Timothy Bolot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Please remove all wildtechnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from your 
lists.
Both of these domains are going to my personal hotmail account now and a 
previous staff member subscribed to your lists.
If this is not done within 7 days, I will report this list as a source of SPAM.



> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:27:08 +1000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [SLUG] SpamAssassin - MailMarshall Replacement> CC: slug@slug.org.au> 
> Trent Murray wrote:> > > I currently have a customer using MailMarshall Email filter - this> > product allows the users to log on via a web client and check for> > 
messages that have been marked as spam, release mail if necessary and> > ammend rules. Can anyone recommend a similar front end for> > spamassassin that can be used by Jo User 
without too much> > complication?> > This may be a bit overblown for Jo User but have a look at MailWatch for> MailScanner:> > http://mailwatch.sourceforge.net/doku.php> 
> With the obvious implication being that you also need to install> MailScanner:> > http://www.mailscanner.info/> > It's a pretty impressive combo, but may require you to get 
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RE: [SLUG] Windows Subversion client?

[James Dumay]

If your developing using Visual Studio give this a whirl:

http://ankhsvn.tigris.org/

Its a plugin to Visual Studio 2003/2005 that allows you to use SVN in
the IDE similar to Visual Source Safe.

James
(One reformed .NET developer)

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Hello,

I'm trying to convince the windows programmers at my workplace to adopt
SubVersion instead of Source(Un)Safe (which they already hate anyway) but
the best Windows GUI client I found is TortoiseSVN which the programmer
doesn't like because it relays on Windows Exploder which can get stuck for
minutes sometimes.

Another client I'm a bit familiar with is Eclipse, but it's Java and is
going to be heavy on a laptop with VisualStudio already running on it.

Using the command line tools looks very unattractive to them.

Can anyone recommend any other useful clients (preferably Free/OSS)?

Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] our Jeff featureing in online ads?

[James Dumay]

Its not Jeff because the ad does not feature a Wiimote :)

James

On 6/13/07, Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Check out this disturbing ad I saw today
http://cdn.fastclick.net/fastclick.net/cid52467/media103572.gif
Is that our own Jeff Waugh boosting Dada Mobile?

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Re: [SLUG] Has jabber.org.au gone AWOL?

[James Dumay]

Jabber.org.au is one of the most unreliable jabber services on the net
- I'm not surprised its down at all.

James

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I was using it earlier today but it now looks as if the DNS has gone
walkabout.

Doing a default dig for the A record comes back with the SOA only at
ausregistry.net, but if I do a whois then dig at one of the specific
name servers it provides an A record.

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Re: [SLUG] Frustration Rant

[James Dumay]

Its archived in my reply :)

Hello, Future Generations!

On 5/23/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I doubt it because I use X-No-Archive: yes

James Dumay wrote:
> We find comfort in the fact that this rant will remain archived on the
> net for years and years to come.
>
> James
>
> On 5/22/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've just wasted half the afternoon trying to work out why a tftp server
>> wasn't delivering a config file to a VoIP phone, and I finally discover
>> that it's mode of operation has been changed during an "upgrade" of the
>> tftp server, presumably to "enhance" security.
>>
>> The client had been requesting the file by accessing destination port
>> 69udp on the server, and the server had been delivering the file via
>> source port 69udp.  This meant that I could have very tight and specific
>> filters in iptables.
>>
>> Now I discover that the server delivers the files via random high source
>> ports instead, which means that now I have to open up the filters to
>> accommodate a wide range of source ports from the server instead of the
>> original port 69.
>>
>> I do not call that enhanced security and the idiot that thinks it is
>> should be emasculated.
>>
>> To add insult to injury I can find nothing in the scant documentation to
>> tell me how to force the server back to its original mode of operation.
>>
>>
>> I feel better now  :)
>>
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Re: [SLUG] Frustration Rant

[James Dumay]

We find comfort in the fact that this rant will remain archived on the
net for years and years to come.

James

On 5/22/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've just wasted half the afternoon trying to work out why a tftp server
wasn't delivering a config file to a VoIP phone, and I finally discover
that it's mode of operation has been changed during an "upgrade" of the
tftp server, presumably to "enhance" security.

The client had been requesting the file by accessing destination port
69udp on the server, and the server had been delivering the file via
source port 69udp.  This meant that I could have very tight and specific
filters in iptables.

Now I discover that the server delivers the files via random high source
ports instead, which means that now I have to open up the filters to
accommodate a wide range of source ports from the server instead of the
original port 69.

I do not call that enhanced security and the idiot that thinks it is
should be emasculated.

To add insult to injury I can find nothing in the scant documentation to
tell me how to force the server back to its original mode of operation.


I feel better now  :)

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Re: [SLUG] SLUG Bootcamp, this Saturday!

[James Dumay]

Del,
Would love to see you give a talk at SLUG - not the coming meeting (as
we are all booked up) but perhaps in June?

Send out a descriptive email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we can get
the ball rolling.

Thanks,
James
SLUG Committee Member

On 5/18/07, Del <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
>
>>Come to the SLUG Bootcamp!
>>
>>The event will run from 10am to 6pm on this Saturday (19 May).
>
>
> Where/how has this event been publicised, aside from SLUG announcements and
> flyers at Open CeBIT? How many people to you expect to participate? Did you
> take RSVPs at all? Seems like this was pulled out of the hat very quickly,
> without a lot of lead time for building community involvement or promotion,
> which will be a worry for anyone spending their time preparing for it.

Given the number of flyers [sic] handed out for this at CeBIT, I think
the promotion was pretty good.  At least as good as other SLUG installfests,
etc, in the past.

I thought about participating with some hands-on fedora directory server
stuff but since the aim was mostly to play with desktop apps and not server
ones I decided against it.  I may drop by during the day, though, and perhaps
I'll save the FDS/Samba talk for another time.

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Re: [SLUG] SLUG Bootcamp, this Saturday!

[James Dumay]

Hey Voytek,
Sure you can bring them along - someone there would be able to help
you with Apache etc.

James

On 5/15/07, Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, May 14, 2007 7:09 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

> Just to clarify some misrepresentations/misunderstandings, there will be
> representation made by a number of Linux distributions at the SLUG
> Bootcamp,
> including Fedora, Knoppix and Ubuntu. Others are welcome, as long as they
> are appropriate for the intended audience. You won't hear me raving about
> the wonders of Gentoo at the Bootcamp :)

Sridhar,

can a nincomp that has problems configuring Apache and mail and stuff
bring these to the bootcamp...?

bringing no laptop but ssh password ?


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Re: [SLUG] PowerPC, and Sound

[James Dumay]

In Ubuntu 7.04, snd-powermac is a bit screwed up - seems they changed
something in the 2.6.21 kernels but your mileage might vary.

There is a bug open in malone here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/87652

But as for Fedora Core 6, the sound seems to run perfectly on my
PowerBook G4 Ti. Try loading the snd-powermac module. You might also
want to try the snd-aoa driver if your running a lateish kernel.

James

On 5/10/07, Craige McWhirter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 15:54 +1000, Kevin Fitzgerald wrote:
> I stuck my Ubuntu 6.10 live cd in the drive the other night and it
>  works beautifully giving me all sound and everything. So I Installed
>  Ububtu and again no sound.

Have you tried Ubuntu 7.04?

There's been a large number of improvements, particularly in hardware
device management.

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Re: [SLUG] 27th April 2007 SLUG Monthly Meeting

[James Dumay]

Sure thing Jeff - I think it's very relevant :)

Can you also pimp it at SLUGlets? Perhaps you could give a more in
depth spiel about GNOME Mobile and Embedded relating to the OLPC and
other products/projects.

Awesome,
James

On 4/26/07, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> Friday 27th of April 2007 - Starts at 6.30pm through to 9.30pm

Mind if I do a five minute bit about the recently announced GNOME Mobile &
Embedded Initiative  during Q&A? Happens to be
relevant to the general talk. :-)

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[SLUG] 27th April 2007 SLUG Monthly Meeting

[James Dumay]

Hey guys,
It's time for another spectacular SLUG meeting!

== 27th April 2007 SLUG Monthly Meeting ==
When:
Friday 27th of April 2007 - Starts at 6.30pm through to 9.30pm

Where:
Level 13, IBM Building, 601 Pacific Highway, St Leonards

Maps, more info, etc at http://slug.org.au/node/66

We will have people stationed at the door of the building to greet and
let you into the building. Thanks to the fantastic people at IBM for
our great venue!

This month we decided we would do things a little differently: We've
cut down the time   of each talk from one hour to forty five minutes -
so we have more time to eat dinner, hang out and get to know each
other a bit better.

==General Talk - Martin Visser demoing OLPC ==
Martin was lucky enough to score one of the fantastic One Laptop Per
Child machines (www.laptop.org), so he is going to share with us his
experiences and knowledge with this exciting project.

==Technical Talk - Taryn East "Introduction to Ruby On Rails) ==
The lovely Taryn will give us the scoop on Ruby On Rails
(www.rubyonrails.org) and guide us through the land of web
development, on Rails!.

==SLUGlets (During the Technical Talk)==
Group discussion of the OLPC, Questions, answers and more.

Dinner

TBA

Hope to see you all there!

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[SLUG] 27th April 2007 SLUG Monthly Meeting

[James Dumay]

Hey guys,
It's time for another spectacular SLUG meeting!

== 27th April 2007 SLUG Monthly Meeting ==
When:
Friday 27th of April 2007 - Starts at 6.30pm through to 9.30pm

Where:
Level 13, IBM Building, 601 Pacific Highway, St Leonards

Maps, more info, etc at http://slug.org.au/node/66

We will have people stationed at the door of the building to greet and
let you into the building. Thanks to the fantastic people at IBM for
our great venue!

This month we decided we would do things a little differently: We've
cut down the time   of each talk from one hour to forty five minutes -
so we have more time to eat dinner, hang out and get to know each
other a bit better.

==General Talk - Martin Visser demoing OLPC ==
Martin was lucky enough to score one of the fantastic One Laptop Per
Child machines (www.laptop.org), so he is going to share with us his
experiences and knowledge with this exciting project.

==Technical Talk - Taryn East "Introduction to Ruby On Rails) ==
The lovely Taryn will give us the scoop on Ruby On Rails
(www.rubyonrails.org) and guide us through the land of web
development, on Rails!.

==SLUGlets (During the Technical Talk)==
Group discussion of the OLPC, Questions, answers and more.

Dinner

TBA

Hope to see you all there!

~James Dumay
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Re: [SLUG] BBC Open Source Report

[James Dumay]

Sounds cool - ill have a listen to it :)

James

On 4/12/07, Richard Ibbotson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi

I thought that someone out there might like to listen to a BBC radio
program that went out tonight

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/pip/z9ksy/


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[SLUG] Re: [CTTE] Linux at Macquarie

[James Dumay]

Hey Hunter,
Sorry to hear about your problems but the committee list cant help you - you
might want to try the list at slug@slug.org.au and you can subscribe at
lists.slug.org.au

Ive cross posted this email to the above list - what kind of hardware do you
have? What models/manufacturers? What Linux distro are you using?

James

On 3/17/07, Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi! I just removed Windows Vista Premium from my laptop and installed
Ubuntu. I really need the support of a Linux Users Group because I'm
having enormous problems just getting basic hardware to work (wireless,
mouse, DVD drive, etc).

Once the hardware is up and running I think I will be fine with the
software (I used Firefox, Thunderbird, Gaim, OpenOffice, etc under Vista
anyway)

Let me know - thanks!

Hunter
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Re: [SLUG] KeybOard PrOblems HELP!!

[James Dumay]

Dude, I laughed and im so so sorry :).

Try deleting your .compiz directory and try again.

On 3/5/07, Scott Gourlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi All,

I am currently running a SUSE 10.2 (64Bit) install, and Over night my
lOwercase O has just stOpped wOrking. It WOrks fine with whith either
shift Or caps lOck.

It wOrks Ok in KDM, Only Happens Once the DesktOp lOads. (KDE &
COmpiz) any ThOughts

Ok nOt keybOad Swapped the Original Off same PrOblem??

I am abOut tO try in WindOws tO see if same prOblem arises there..

Any thOughts??

(I feel like a script kiddie with a capital O fetish)



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Re: [SLUG] ATO online

[James Dumay]

Its a conspiracy I tell you...

On 2/27/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Since they reckon that they have already got 90% online lodgement and
are targeting 95%. perhaps they are tacitly admitting that they are not
interested in the remaining 5% that represent Linux desktops.

Sales WBrown wrote:
> I read recently that Vista is having compatibility issues for online
> lodgement of electronic forms with ATO
> see http://www.webappexpo.com.au/content/view/56/45/
>
> Unfortunately ATO lists only Macintosh and Windows as possible operating
> systems for online use:
> http://www.ato.gov.au/onlineservices/content.asp?doc=/content/36220.htm
>
> Have any sluggers overcome this problem with linux?
>

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Re: [SLUG] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [activities] Call For Participation: Distro Discussion Panel @ Friday's meeting]

[James Dumay]

What distro's are currently being represented?

James

On 2/22/07, Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


G'day all!
We're running low on volunteers - anyone else want to represent their
favourite distro?

Lindsay

- Forwarded message from Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SLUG Activities <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:10:22 +1100
Subject: [activities] Call For Participation: Distro Discussion Panel @
Friday's meeting

Hi all!
We're looking for volunteers to represent Linux distribution at Friday's
panel. There will be a bunch of questions from the audience and a number
from the moderator, with the session lasting a bit under an hour.

If you'd like to be part of the panel, please respond to this email with
the distro you'd like to represent.

If someone else has already volunteered themselves for your prefered
distro, volunteer anyway! We can work out a shared spot on the panel. :-)

Thanks!
Lindsay

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[SLUG] Fwd: [activities] Re: Request for blurb for November SLUG meeting talk (Chuck Grey)

[James Dumay]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Charles Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Nov 22, 2006 2:19 PM
Subject: [activities] Re: Request for blurb for November SLUG meeting talk
To: Charles Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, SLUG Activities <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Guys,
   See attached for the abstract for my talk on Friday. Sorry for the
delay. Let
me know if you need anything more.

   Chuck

Lindsay Holmwood wrote:

Hi Charles,
James Dummay has confirmed with the committee that you're available to
give a talk at the November SLUG meeting.

Could you please send a quick blurb about your talk for us to post in
the announce and on the website?

Cheers,
Lindsay




SLUG Talk Abstract for Nov 2006
---

Darwin is an open-source subset of Apple's Mac OS X. The Darwin kernel
presents a POSIX interface, but is internally an interesting mix of
BSD and Mach kernels and the modular device framework, I/O Kit. The
kernel boasts modern features such as device hot-plug, power
management, 64-bit and soft real-time support.

L4/Darwin (AKA darbat) is a joint project between the Embedded,
Real-Time and Operating Systems group at National ICT Australia and
the School of Computer Science and Engineering at UNSW. The L4/Darwin
project aims to re-factor the monolithic Darwin operating system into
a set of components running on top of the L4 microkernel. By running
the Darwin kernel as user processes, L4/Darwin aims to provide
improved flexibility, robustness and peformance while preserving
binary compatability with native Darwin and Mac OS X.

This talk covers details of Darwin kernel internals and our
experiences porting it to the L4 microkernel. It will also cover
experiments and results so far, as well as future plans.





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Re: [SLUG] graphical file manager for linux?

[James Dumay]

Luke,
Thunar is rather fast and light weight. Its the XFCE desktop File Manager.

http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html

James

On 11/15/06, Luke Vanderfluit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi.

I've been using konqueror for a while as a graphical file browser to
browse and view mainly source code files on my system.
Since it's fairly graphics resource hungry and has crashed a few times,
which causes memory not get cleaned up properly etc...
I need another such file browser manager.
Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
Kind regards.
Luke.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Linux UI decision

[James Dumay]

Peter,
Have you seen gtk-macosx yet?

http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx

James

On 11/13/06, Peter Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


James Dumay wrote:
> You could use GTK-Sharp - it works on Win32, Linux and Mac OS X.

GTK still doesn't have a native OSX port. It works, but needs an X11
server installed, and just doesn't play along terribly well with the
rest of the UI.

So yeah, as much as I love GTK, I wouldn't really consider it for OSX
apps.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Linux UI decision

[James Dumay]

Oh? Do you have any more info on this?

James

On 11/13/06, Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


A C# compiler for Parrot was due to be written at the Hackathon
yesterday, but was abandoned after someone discovered there was a valid
patent hanging over C# compilers in general.

So I don't know about coming after you, but there's more than one. :)

Adam K

James Dumay wrote:
> You could use GTK-Sharp - it works on Win32, Linux and Mac OS X.
>
> I wouldn't use WinForms. As far as I am aware, WinForms probably the
only
> thing that Microsoft could come after with Lawyers in Mono.
>
> James
>
> On 11/13/06, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Have you considered the implications of Mono being owned by Novell and
>> Novell having entered into an "arrangement" with Microsoft.  Perhaps
>> Mono is not as unencumbered as you might like to think.
>>
>> David Peterson wrote:
>> > Michael Lake wrote:
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >>> 2. I have begun development using Qt, as my X/Motif/Tk book is
about
>> >>> a  decade old - there are so many IDE's, does anyone think this
>> >>> environment has a future in the workplace?
>> >>
>> >> As a user I'm finding much of the open source GUI stuff that I
>> download
>> >> and have to compile is written with wxWindows. I suspect that that
is
>> >> because many open source programmers dont have the full, pay for Qt
>> >> libraries to develop with. wxWindows has bindings for Python, Perl
and
>> >> C++. It's web page http://www.wxwindows.org now seems to redirect to
>> >> http://www.wxwidgets.org
>> >> Using wxWindows your one app will work on Linux, MacOSX and Windows.
>> >
>> >
>> > What about Mono? Apparently the latest version (1.2) completely
>> implements
>> > the System.Windows.Forms API. This should mean you can write
>> cross-platform
>> > apps that run on both Windows and Linux, right? I'm not sure about
>> MacOSX
>> > support but if anyone is using this I would love to be enlightened!
>> >
>> > Dave
>>
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Linux UI decision

[James Dumay]

You could use GTK-Sharp - it works on Win32, Linux and Mac OS X.

I wouldn't use WinForms. As far as I am aware, WinForms probably the only
thing that Microsoft could come after with Lawyers in Mono.

James

On 11/13/06, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Have you considered the implications of Mono being owned by Novell and
Novell having entered into an "arrangement" with Microsoft.  Perhaps
Mono is not as unencumbered as you might like to think.

David Peterson wrote:
> Michael Lake wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 2. I have begun development using Qt, as my X/Motif/Tk book is about
>>> a  decade old - there are so many IDE's, does anyone think this
>>> environment has a future in the workplace?
>>
>> As a user I'm finding much of the open source GUI stuff that I download
>> and have to compile is written with wxWindows. I suspect that that is
>> because many open source programmers dont have the full, pay for Qt
>> libraries to develop with. wxWindows has bindings for Python, Perl and
>> C++. It's web page http://www.wxwindows.org now seems to redirect to
>> http://www.wxwidgets.org
>> Using wxWindows your one app will work on Linux, MacOSX and Windows.
>
>
> What about Mono? Apparently the latest version (1.2) completely
implements
> the System.Windows.Forms API. This should mean you can write
cross-platform
> apps that run on both Windows and Linux, right? I'm not sure about
MacOSX
> support but if anyone is using this I would love to be enlightened!
>
> Dave

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Re: [SLUG] similar to Yakuake for Gnome?

[James Dumay]

Try installing libvte2.0-cil and libvte2.0-cil

Mono libraries in debian based operating systems end with a -cil postfix.

James

On 11/7/06, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 11/7/06, James Dumay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Besides, if your using Ubuntu, you have all
> the dependencies you need.

150MB needed to be installed (I'm just following the readme) and now
nand is spitting out an error because I don't have "vte-sharp-2.0.pc"

> What's so god aweful about .exe?

I guess it's one of those negative association things. You're right,
they probably work fine, but 150MB of dependencies and still not
enough is a joke and I don't even know where to get hold of vte-sharp2
for Ubuntu.-2.0.pc

Yakuake on KDE needed: KDE and... Yakuake. Sure, KDE takes up a fair
load of space, but at least then I have KDE.

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Re: [SLUG] similar to Yakuake for Gnome?

[James Dumay]

whoa hold on... the only reason Mono executables have a .exe extension is
because it is defined in the ecma-international standard for the Common
Runtime Language.

And it can't execute viruses. Besides, if your using Ubuntu, you have all
the dependencies you need.

What's so god aweful about .exe?

James

On 11/7/06, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 11/7/06, James Dumay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Acutally ben I found something almost exactly fits what you described
>
> http://forgeftp.novell.com//greent/homepage/index.html

That looks great, thanks for searching.

I won't be using it though. I've installed over 150MB of dependencies
and now I'm finding .exe files? I nearly have all the support I need
to run the email viruses I'm smugly avoiding...and it still wants
more, so I think I'll just give up, install KDE and try to get yakuake
working in Gnome.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: [SLUG] Novell and Microsoft

[James Dumay]

The Novell/MS should really mean nothing to developers who respect
intellectual property of Microsoft - Microsoft and Novell under the deal
(and any Novell customer) are able to share each others respective
intellectual property and allow external developers to extend and contribute
to those projects.

People crying about the entire community not getting covered simply don't
get it... You can be sued now and you could be sued before the deal if you
infringe on someones intellectual property and in some cases, rightly so.

Novell are not handing the keys out to anyones castles, as GPL'd and
similarly licensed software will stay open and free - Novell can't give this
away on their own terms.

Also take in the fact that the deal is very much product differentiation for
Novell - offering security in the knowledge that Microsoft will not come for
their first born son any time soon.

James

On 11/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:50:57PM +1100, Ben wrote:
> On 11/6/06, tuxta2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >What do you people think?
> >I would be very interested to hear some opinions.
>
> This comment seems to be realistic, except for the finishing off bit.
> I think Microsoft has much more to gain by keeping Linux around and
> selling IP licenses for it.
> http://news.linux.com/comments.pl?sid=37578&cid=92628
>
> Humour piece, apparently from 1995:
> http://www.usd.edu/~bwjames/humor/ms/novel.html
>
> FSF article from April this year:
> http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/ms-vs-eu/article-20060421.en.html
>
> My thought on Microsoft's strategy:
> embrace, extend, and emasculate or enslave.
>
> If software patents are widely recognised then Microsoft can force
> Linux to be nothing more than a backyard hobby, or charge for it, all
> while appearing not to be a monopoly, because after all, it's
> reasonable to charge for
> your IP, right?

Am I missing something can't we just take the code from Novell and apply
any patches to bring it up to where it is now and carry on from there,
doesn't that give every one Novell's protection ?

or something along those lines.

ps I am not a lawyer .

>
> FSF won't push the GPL issue, because if they do, Microsoft will
> threaten litigation against other distros on patent grounds. The FSF
> will be able to go ahead and most likely lose, or back off and cement
> the validity of software patents.
>
> The only way Linux will last as an independant force in the long run
> is to fight software patents. We need to make sure there is at least
> one major market where the patents don't have force. If you have to
> license Linux in the USA, but not in the EU, Microsoft will be
> tortured by the USA corporations, so they won't push it until they've
> made the EU think licensing is OK, which is why Novell is such a good
> ally for them, as it's the strong in the EU.
>
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[SLUG] [OT] SQL Server 2005 SP2

[James Dumay]

Hey,
WAY off topic but did anyone get a copy of SQL Server 2005 SP2 before
Microsoft pulled it from their website?
I need it for testing on Vista.

~James
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Re: [SLUG] similar to Yakuake for Gnome?

[James Dumay]

Acutally ben I found something almost exactly fits what you described

http://forgeftp.novell.com//greent/homepage/index.html

On 11/6/06, James Dumay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sorry Ben I don't know anything that has the behavior described - perhaps
you can check www.gnomefiles.org ?

Good Luck :)

James

On 11/6/06, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 11/6/06, James Dumay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 11/6/06, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm looking for a Gnome terminal emulator with similar features to
> > yakuake:
> > > * rollup/down in response to ` key,
> >
> > Explain this a little bit better :P
>
> In Quake you could hit the ` (back quote) key, or maybe it was ~, and
> a terminal window would shoot down from the top of the screen, and
> take up about half the screen. You could use it to enter cheat codes,
> configure server options, etc.
>
> Yakuake works the same way. It responds to F12 by default, but I
> changed it to `.
>
> It slides down from the top of the screen, as an always on top window.
> If I hit ` again, it just slides back up. When it's up, you can't see
> it. In XGL it was visible on all four sides of the cube at once (when
> rolled down)
>
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Re: [SLUG] similar to Yakuake for Gnome?

[James Dumay]

Sorry Ben I don't know anything that has the behavior described - perhaps
you can check www.gnomefiles.org ?

Good Luck :)

James

On 11/6/06, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 11/6/06, James Dumay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/6/06, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm looking for a Gnome terminal emulator with similar features to
> yakuake:
> > * rollup/down in response to ` key,
>
> Explain this a little bit better :P

In Quake you could hit the ` (back quote) key, or maybe it was ~, and
a terminal window would shoot down from the top of the screen, and
take up about half the screen. You could use it to enter cheat codes,
configure server options, etc.

Yakuake works the same way. It responds to F12 by default, but I
changed it to `.

It slides down from the top of the screen, as an always on top window.
If I hit ` again, it just slides back up. When it's up, you can't see
it. In XGL it was visible on all four sides of the cube at once (when
rolled down)

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Re: [SLUG] similar to Yakuake for Gnome?

[James Dumay]

On 11/6/06, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm looking for a Gnome terminal emulator with similar features to
yakuake:
* rollup/down in response to ` key,



Explain this a little bit better :P


* multiple tabs



GNOME Terminal has this :)


* transparency options with several colour scheme choices would be handy.


Also has this by the use of "Profiles".

Ben

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Re: [SLUG] Re: perl, php

[James Dumay]

Eric, care to chime in? :-)

On 11/3/06, Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Lindsay Holmwood wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:33:43PM +1100, Michael Lake wrote:
>> Alan Harper wrote:
>>> *puts on fireproof suit*
>>> Why bother with perl when you know python? :)
>> Try installing Python eggs compared to installing Perl modules.
>> No wonder the Python packages are called eggs - they break easily :-)
>>
>
> Python programmers don't know not to bother with eggs because there's
> Debian. :-)

Indeed. In all seriousness though I've heard this a lot of times, from a
number of senior Python personalities (not Guido though).

I can't help but wonder if it hurts Python in the long wrong, because it
makes it harder for people to play if they are in strange and unusual
places (and I don't just mean Win32 here).

Adam K


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Re: [SLUG] Removing unwanted "thumbnail" files

[James Dumay]

Perhaps you should file an upstream bug on the GNOME bugzilla for Nautilus
:)

Then the problem can go away for ever (better yet maybe you could hack a
patch!)

~James

On 10/29/06, Leslie Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks very much for your latest reply Michael. I believe that all is
now clear to me.

Whereas your thumbnails take up 30MB, mine take up even less than that
(12MB (out of 120GB)). However, I'm going through this exercise for the
purpose of helping someone to whom I gave an old computer with limited
hard drive space, onto which I'd preloaded Fedora Core 3. She uploads a
lot of photos to the computer and has, I discovered, over five thousand
thumbnails in the two relevant directories, most of which must relate to
photos that have since been deleted or moved to cd anyway.

As you said earlier, the reason why the original command didn't work for
me wasn't that there was anything wrong with it.

Instead, I now realise that I'd simply accessed all of my thumbnails in
the last week. I did run a virus scan during that time and now suspect
that it was that process which led to the thumbnails being accessed
within the meaning of the atime option in find. If it wasn't that
process, then it was, as you suggested, my browsing the .thumbnails
directory yesterday for the purpose of this very exercise.

Thank you again for your help.

Leslie
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Re: [SLUG] Installing fonts on Linux

[James Dumay]

If you use gnome I believe if you go to the fonts:/// location you can drag and drop fonts from a File Manager window (same as copying them to ~/.fonts)~JamesOn 10/25/06, 
David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [SLUG] Problems with Evolution email

[James Dumay]

By chance is this IMAP?JamesOn 10/21/06, Ken Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I keep seeing the following message in evolution:Error while Storing folder 'Inbox'.
Summary and folder mismatch, even after a syncI have seen other queries about this on Ubuntu forums but not whatcauses it or how to fix.Can anyone on this list cast any light on this?Ken
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Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu wifi challenge

[James Dumay]

John,Have you tried ndiswrappers in the interim ?Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/NdiswrapperNdiswrapper allows you to use the Windows device driver for the wireless card on Linux.
In the long term, if you really want to get the card working with an native Linux driver I'm willing to meet up with you at some point and get it going.JamesOn 10/19/06, 
John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Its the firmware for the inbuilt card I think that's not working or not installed.On 10/19/06, Rev Simon Rumble
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:This one time, at band camp, John wrote:>By working, I mean having the capability to switch between wireless and
>ethernet networks (dhcp & static) using either/and/or NetworkManager,>network-manager-gnome and laptop-net.So by "not working" do you mean it currently can talk to wireless

networks but no there's easy way to switch to other networks?Dapper worked out-of-the-box with my laptop, and it's lovely.  ButDapper's network-manager-gnome doesn't have profiles.  Edgy's does.>The laptop is a Compaq Presario 2100 AMD Athlon.
>lspci -v reveals it's an Intersil Corp. Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)>Subsystem AMBIT Microsystems Unknown device!! 0200Prism is one of the better supported chipsets, so it's unusual that it
doesn't Just Work.--Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [SLUG] suse

[James Dumay]

Also OpenLaszlo is an opensource Flash like technologyhttp://www.openlaszlo.org/JamesOn 10/17/06, 
Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joachim Herrmann wrote:> We need a good Flash editor,Joachim,I do quite a bit of messing about with Flash in my day joband I can assure you that there is nothing like the MacromediaFlash development tools on Linux. Even the Free Software Flash
player, Gnash ( http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ ) is nowherenear ready for general use.Flash is a closed proprietary product which is bandwidth intensive
in comparison to other web formats, it breaks the operation of theback/forward buttons on web browsers etc.My advice is to steer people away from developing web sites withFlash and instead concentrate on widely used, truely open web
standards.Hope this helps,Erik--+---+  Erik de Castro Lopo+---+A Microsoft Certified System Engineer is to computing what a
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[SLUG] Malone Question

[James Dumay]

Hey guys,When I have subscribed to a bug in Launchpad.net's Malone bug tracker and the bug gets marked as a duplicate, does it automatically subscribe me to the other bug report?
Cheers,~James
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[SLUG] Anyone got any parts for a Mac LC575? trade?

[James Dumay]

I'm looking for a Ethernet adapter and possibly the back plate for the machine... so if you have some spares or an old one you could part with that would be awesome :)~James
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Re: [SLUG] Technical talk volunteers for September's meeting

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Adam - any of these would be great - Im very interested in "Nothing Can Possibly Go Wrong" myself.Committee, is this OK?JamesOn 9/28/06, 
Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a couple of pre-written ones I can pull out for those thathaven't seen them.The one I can do with the least preparation (because I must have done it5 or 10 times) is:- Parsing, Analysing and Manipulating Perl (without perl)
The best description I have is a quote. "I've don't think I've everlaughed and had my brain hurt so much at the same time before".I also have:- PITA: Rediculously Large Scale Testing
... which is about the new mass automated testing architecture I'mbuilding to replace the existing CPAN Testers. It has video in it, so itneed a dark room and a sound system as well as the projector to do it
properly.Also I've got:- Nothing Can Possibly Go Wrong... which is about a whole bunch of different ways that people screw upthe design of large software systems, and is pretty light on A/V
demands. I've done it on a laptop before.Please note that these last two, while I've done them already in the US,haven't been shown here yet except for a short version of the second onefor OSIA, and I'll be doing them at OSDC in Melbourne and (hopefully) at
LCA next year. So if people are planning to go to either, perhaps thePerl one would be the best?Take your pick...Adam KLindsay Holmwood wrote:> Hi all,> Our technical talk speaker for tomorrow night has had to pull out due
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Re: [SLUG] [ot] startup conference @ UTS 6 Oct

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"MeetingSpace Corp"On 9/12/06, James Purser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 10:34 +0930, David Lloyd wrote:> Heh,>> > UTS is hosting a free conference on how to create a startup.> >> > Futher information 
http://www.startup06.org>> That would be a startup company, not a startup script!I wondered why /etc/init.d/cashcow start wasn't working.--James PurserProducer/Presenter - Open Source On The Air
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[SLUG] Fwd: [discuss] ruxcon 2006 update

[James Dumay]

-- Forwarded message --From: Chris Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sep 12, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: [discuss] ruxcon 2006 updateTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hi Everyone,Just a few updates as we are closely approaching RuxCon:Doors will open on Saturday the 30th September at 8:30am. The first
presentation will start at 9:30am. The timetable can be found at:http://www.ruxcon.org.au/timetable.shtmlThe entrance fee for RuxCon 2006 will be $60. You can pay on the Saturday
morning.The following two presentations have been added:The Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS) - Christian HeinrichAjax Security - Andrew van der StockPlease remember to register on the website:
http://www.ruxcon.org.au/register.shtmlThanks,Chris Spencer
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[SLUG] Fwd: [discuss] RuxCon 2006 Update

[James Dumay]

-- Forwarded message --From: Chris Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sep 6, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: [discuss] RuxCon 2006 UpdateTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hi,RuxCon is approaching fast, time for a few updates.General---RuxCon will run over Saturday, September 30th to Sunday, October 1st. The
following Monday is a public holiday in Sydney. I suggest that if you haveto arrange flights or accommodation you do so as soon as possible. There isanother large event running over 30th and 1st in Sydney. If you are looking
for accommodation close to UTS then check outhttp://www.wotif.com/Search.jsp?region=1593&refine=simpleSearch&x=26&y=13
.The entrance fee for RuxCon 2006 will be $60.Please remember to register on the website:http://www.ruxcon.org.au/register.shtml.Opening and Closing times
-Doors will be opening on Saturday at 8.30AM with presentations beginning at9.30AM. Presentations will continue throughout the day till around 7PM anddoors will close at around 10PM. A complete timetable including presentation
and activity times will be made available soon.RuxCon 2006 Activities--Activities pages have been made available on the website. A few keyactivities to note include Capture the Flag and the RuxCon Quiz. For more
information please see: http://www.ruxcon.org.au/activities.shtml.T-Shirt Design--We're offering free entry, an O'Reilly book, and a free t-shirt to the
person who creates the design for the official RUXCON 2006 t-shirt. Pleasepost your submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED].New Presentations-
Ben Nagy - Metafuzz - Building boring fuzzers faster, using metadatahttp://www.ruxcon.org.au/presentations.shtml
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[SLUG] Fwd: [CTTE] RuxCon 2006

[James Dumay]

-- Forwarded message --From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sep 1, 2006 3:09 PMSubject: [CTTE] RuxCon 2006
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hi,Last year I dropped in to your SLUG meet just to remind your membersthat RuxCon was on as we were setting up at UTS the night befor. A lot
of them were VERY unhappy as they hadnt heard that it was on at all thatyear and had made other plansI couldnt make it to your meet last week and I didnt want to spam yourmailing list so I was hoping one of you would pass the info on to your
mailing list.RuxCon is on the long weekend again on the 30th Sep/1st Oct at UTSIve attached some info at the end of this email and more is on the websiteAlso there are still places open for more presentations if anyone is
interestedThanks for any help with this :)Dave---RuxCon is on again in Sydney Australia.  RuxCon is an IT SecurityConference run by members of the IT Security industry.  Due to the
diverse backgrounds and interests of RuxCon staff, the conference boastsa broad range of technical and non technical topis such as reverseengineering, identity crime, cryptography, code analysis, computerforensics and social engineering techniques.
The conference, held over two days (30 09 06 and 01 10 06) at theUniversity of Technology, Sydney provides for attendees of allbackgrounds to enjoy themselves whilst expanding their awareness ofcomputer security.
RuxCon is comparable to its more famous American counterpart, the DEFCONconference. RuxCon, however provides a unique Australian flavour and achance to 'rux' it up with the many animated characters that make up the
fabric of the colourful Australian security community.RuxCon is not just about presentations, there are many activities onoffer to keep the attendees interested. Activities range from the lighthearted chilli eating competition and computer trivia quiz, right up to
the competitive Capture the Flag tournament.  Capture the Flag involvesplayers "hacking" into machines specifically setup by RuxCon organisers.$60 will cover you for two days worth of talks and experience, making it
accessible to anyone who is genuinely interested in computer security.More information is available on our website and RuxCon staff andpresenters are always available for questions or interviews. They can be
reached via e-mail at[EMAIL PROTECTED].Regards,RUXCON Staffhttp://www.ruxcon.org.au--SLUG Committee

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Re: [SLUG] Charon Wifi

[James Dumay]

Ty :)JamesOn 8/31/06, Andreas Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You could try contacting him through is Fresh Meat account for Charon:http://freshmeat.net/~dichro/
On 8/30/06, 
James Dumay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Sluggers,Anyone got the contact details of Mikolaj, the author of the Charon project?For those who dont know what Charon is:

http://wiki.rcpt.to/perl/wiki.pl?CharonHome
ThanksJames Dumay

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Re: [SLUG] Asterisk Talk

[James Dumay]

I might be able to organise this as I have a contact who is a Asterisk contractor.JamesOn 8/30/06, James Dumay <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Cross posted this to activities.
-- Forwarded message --From: Mark Sargent <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Aug 30, 2006 10:20 AMSubject: [SLUG] Asterisk TalkTo: SLUG <slug@slug.org.au>
Hi All,I'm rather interested in Asterisk and was wondering if we could get(convince) someone to give a talk at an upcoming SLUG meet? Anyone out there willing to do this? Anyone else interested in this topic too? Cheers.
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[SLUG] Charon Wifi

[James Dumay]

Hey Sluggers,Anyone got the contact details of Mikolaj, the author of the Charon project?For those who dont know what Charon is:http://wiki.rcpt.to/perl/wiki.pl?CharonHome
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[SLUG] Asterisk Talk

[James Dumay]

Cross posted this to activities.-- Forwarded message --From: Mark Sargent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Aug 30, 2006 10:20 AMSubject: [SLUG] Asterisk TalkTo: SLUG Hi All,I'm rather interested in Asterisk and was wondering if we could get(convince) someone to give a talk at an upcoming SLUG meet? Anyone out there willing to do this? Anyone else interested in this topic too? Cheers.
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Re: [SLUG] A big thanks to the software freedom day packers!

[James Dumay]

Just wanted to note that there is nothing "dumm" in my name.But thanks for the thanks :)JamesOn 8/29/06, Sridhar Dhanapalan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Tuesday 29 August 2006 17:51, Pia Waugh <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi all,>> We had a bunch of people from SLUG come along and help out with packing the> Software Freedom Day team packs for all around the world. There were about
> 140 packages (including som boxes) so it was a big job and it is really> appreciated!>> Thank YOU!!>>  - Mark Phillips>  - Andreas Fischer>  - Lindsay Holmwood
>  - Julia Decates>  - John Ferlito>  - Jeremy Apthorp>  - James Dummay>  - Dave Dummay>  - Pascal Klein and his Dad>  - Chris Smart>  - Paul WayperIs there any reason why my name is not on this list?
/me runs out of the room crying--Sridhar Dhanapalan  {GnuPG/OpenPGP: http://www.dhanapalan.com/yama.asc   0x049D38B4 : A7A9 8A02 78CB AB1B FCE4 EEC6 2DD9 249B 049D 38B4}
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Re: [SLUG] Due date for LCA paper proposals?

[James Dumay]

Oh, good work Zookeeper team :) keep rocking!JamesOn 8/25/06, Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Hi all,Since I know that there are LCA people here and I'm too lazy
to find the appropriate email address, I was wondering it someonecould verify the correct closing date for LCA paper proposals.The CFP web page :http://www.linux.conf.au/cfp
says Sept 1st, but I distinctly remember an earlier version witha due date of Sept 30th.Can someone clarify please?Erik--+---+
  Erik de Castro Lopo+---+"If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is aprotected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor
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Re: [SLUG] Extracting `self-extracting' archives.

[James Dumay]

No problems :)See you at SLUG! (If your coming).JamesOn 8/22/06, Peter Chubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:>>>>> "James" == James Dumay <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:James> If your using a linux box with XJames> you should be able to run the executable if you install wineJames> and recover the ISO off the hard disk after it has installed.
James> Alternatively you could use "cabextract" [1] which extractsJames> both regular .cab files and executable cab files and if it isJames> an installsheild installer you could use "unshield"[2].
Thankyou!  Turns out this was a .cab file not a zip.--Dr Peter Chubb  http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au  peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au
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Re: [SLUG] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

[James Dumay]

Committee will see that a big "SLUG" sign is stuck on the entrance of the correct building.~JamesOn 8/22/06, Martin Pool <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On 22 Aug 2006, Lindsay Holmwood <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> G'day all,>> SLUG August Monthly Meeting>> When:>25th August 2006, 18:30 - 21:30> Where:>IBM Building, Level 17, St. Leonards
By the way there are at least two IBM offices in St Leonards... (butonly one with 17 stories and at that address)> This month's meeting will be at our brand new venue, the IBM building,> Level 17, 601 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
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Re: [SLUG] Extracting `self-extracting' archives.

[James Dumay]

If your using a linux box with X you should be able to run the executable if you install wine and recover the ISO off the hard disk after it has installed.Alternatively you could use "cabextract" [1] which extracts both regular .cab files and executable cab files and if it is an installsheild installer you could use "unshield"[2].
[1] http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php[2] http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/unshield.php
If this doesn't work for you I could extract them for you on Windows.~JamesOn 8/22/06, Peter Chubb <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi,   I grabbed what the docco said was a ZIP file from the HP website to
upgrade the firmware on one of the boxen I administer... but itdoesn't appear to be one.$ file sp25879.exesp25879.exe: MS-DOS executable PE  for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bitSometimes these things have embedded ZIP files, so just to try it:
$ unzip sp25879.exeArchive:  sp25879.exe  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
  the last disk(s) of this archive.unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of sp25879.exe orsp25879.exe.zip, and cannot find sp25879.exe.ZIP, period.Does anyone have any ideas how to get the ISO image out of this thing,
without a Windows box handy?--Dr Peter Chubb  http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au  peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au
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Re: [SLUG] Re: linux assignment

[James Dumay]

O are you writing a book on shell scripting?On 8/18/06, O Plameras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Matthew Palmer wrote:> On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 12:10:57PM +1000, Martin Pool wrote:>>> On 16 Aug 2006, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 09:58:07AM +1000, David Herd wrote:>>> I'm a computing student who is having troubles with part of my assignment. Can I have any help out there in Linux land.
>>> You could save yourself even more time if you just gave us the address of>>> your lecturer, that way we could e-mail the answers direct to them, saving>>> yourself the trouble of even having to submit the answers yourself.
> I think he just wanted to make sure this comes up when a future>> potential employer searches for his name.  Then they'll know he can get>> lots of work done by asking random people on the net to do it for him.  ;-)
 Resume:>> Strengths: utilising the collective knowledge of the internet to complete> tasks.>> Weaknesses: personal knowledge.>> I suppose it could be worse.
>I don't recognise any constructive or helpful points in the previouscomments.Do you have to be mean to make a point ?O Plameras--SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - 
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[SLUG] Speaker needed for Technical Talk for next SLUG Meeting

[James Dumay]

Hey Guys,Peter Miller dropped out as the Technical speaker for the next meeting. Can anyone help out and offer to talk?Cheers,James
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[SLUG] RE: Mass nominations

[James Dumay]

Awww! Thanks!

Hey id love to run to be a SLUG committee member - just give me a chance
:)

~James

-Original Message-
From: Pia Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 27 February 2006 11:05 AM
To: SLUG
Cc: Mo Kaan; Silvia Pfeiffer; Jamie Honan; James Dumay; Robert Collins;
Grant Parnell
Subject: Mass nominations

Hi all,

Given the nominations thus far don't fill the positions, here goes :)

I nominate Mohammad Kaan for Secretary of SLUG. He is a great person,
FLOSS
advocate, and I think he'd make a fantastic secretary and addition to
the
SLUG committee.

I nominate Silvia Pfieffer for Vice-President of SLUG - she rocks,
what else do we need to say :)

I nominate Grant Parnell for Secretary of SLUG - I believe he would make
a
great secretary for the organisation.

I nominate Robert Collins for Ordinary Committee Member of SLUG. He is a
good community member and has contributed to the SLUG committee before.

I nominate James Dumay for Ordinary Committee member of SLUG. He is fun
and
enthusiastic, so I think he'd bring this to SLUG activities :)

Lastly, I nominate Jamie Honan for ordinary committee member. For those
who
don't know Jamie, he is a previous SLUG President, a fantastic guy, a
great
person to bounce ideas off and I think if he can be convinced to go on
the
committee again he'd be great! :)

All nominees cc'd.

Cheers,
Pia

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Re: [SLUG] ASP web pages on Apache/Linux

[James Dumay]

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 09:14, Bernhard Lüder wrote:

Heh. Asp 3 or .NET? google the mono project for .net and goodluck

use IIS for asp ffs :)

> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering, if anyone has any experience with running ASP (Active
> Server Pages) on an Apache web server on a RedHat OS?
> 
> Regards
> Bernhard Lüder
> BLUE NET - The business communication provider
> 200 / 4 Young Street
> Neutral Bay NSW 2089
> Ph 1300 852 147
> Fax 02 9908 8090

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[SLUG] RPM spec building... HELP!

[James Dumay]

I keep getting this error when I build some rpms from spec (using m4 as
an example).

+ /usr//lib/rpm/brp-strip
+ /usr//lib/rpm/brp-strip-comment-note
Processing files: m4-1.4-1
PreReq: rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
Requires(rpmlib): rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr//lib/rpm/check-files %{buildroot}
warning: Could not canonicalize hostname: gir
Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/m4-1.4-1.src.rpm
Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/m4-1.4-1.i386.rpm
Executing(%clean): /bin/sh -e /usr/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.30955

also, the RPM's that are built are empty (excluding the .src.rpm's)

anyone? Im using rpm-4.1

here is a full build log and spec file used is attached


gir donespec # rpmbuild -ba m4-1.4.spec
Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /usr/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.10650
+ umask 022
+ cd /usr//src/redhat/BUILD
+ cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
+ rm -rf m4-1.4
+ /bin/gzip -dc /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/m4-1.4.tar.gz
+ tar -xf -
+ STATUS=0
+ '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
+ cd m4-1.4
+ exit 0
Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /usr/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.10650
+ umask 022
+ cd /usr//src/redhat/BUILD
+ cd m4-1.4
+ ./configure --prefix=/usr
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for mawk... no
checking for gawk... gawk
checking for gcc... gcc -s
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc -s accepts -g... yes
checking for a BSD compatible install... /bin/install -c
checking whether make sets $MAKE... yes
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -s -E
checking for AIX... no
checking for POSIXized ISC... no
checking for minix/config.h... no
checking for gcc -s option to accept ANSI C...
checking for function prototypes... yes
checking for working const... yes
checking for limits.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for siginfo.h... no
checking for string.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking whether cross-compiling... no
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking return type of signal handlers... void
checking for size_t... yes
checking for mkstemp... yes
checking for sigaction... yes
checking for sigaltstack... yes
checking for sigstack... yes
checking for sigvec... yes
checking for strerror... yes
checking for tmpfile... yes
checking for working alloca.h... yes
checking for alloca... yes
checking for vprintf... yes
checking for strtol... yes
checking ecvt declaration... yes
checking if stack overflow is detectable... yes
checking if changeword is wanted... no
checking if malloc debugging is wanted... no
updating cache ./config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating doc/Makefile
creating lib/Makefile
creating src/Makefile
creating checks/Makefile
creating examples/Makefile
creating config.h
+ make
for subdir in doc lib src checks examples; do \
  echo making all in $subdir; \
  (cd $subdir && make CC='gcc -s' CFLAGS='-g -O' LDFLAGS='' LIBS=''
prefix='/usr' exec_prefix='/usr' bindir='/usr/bin' infodir='/usr/info'
all) || exit 1; \
done
making all in doc
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pc/BUILD/m4-1.4/doc'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pc/BUILD/m4-1.4/doc'
making all in lib
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pc/BUILD/m4-1.4/lib'
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I.  -g -O regex.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I.  -g -O getopt.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I.  -g -O getopt1.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I.  -g -O error.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I.  -g -O obstack.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I.  -g -O xmalloc.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I.  -g -O xstrdup.c
rm -f libm4.a
ar cru libm4.a regex.o getopt.o getopt1.o error.o obstack.o xmalloc.o
xstrdup.o
ranlib libm4.a
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pc/BUILD/m4-1.4/lib'
making all in src
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pc/BUILD/m4-1.4/src'
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O m4.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O builtin.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O debug.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O eval.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O format.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O freeze.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O input.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O macro.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O output.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O path.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O stackovf.c
gcc -s -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib  -g -O symtab.c
gcc -s  -o m4 m4.o builtin.o debug.o eval.o format.o freeze.o input.o
macro.o output.o path.o stackovf.o symtab.o ../lib/libm4.a
stackovf.o: In function `setup_stackovf_trap':
/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/m4-1.4/src/stackovf.c:343: the `sigstack' function
is dangerous.  `sigaltstack' should be used instead.
builtin.o: In function `m4_maketemp':
/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/m

[SLUG] I got my arse kicked into the kerb

[James Dumay]

Hows this - today i got my arse kicked into the kerb by some dude I dont
even know :/.

Came up behind me pushed me between a car and the gutter and went for my
face - loads of blood and sore noise. Heh.

im charging, dont you freaking worry.

James

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[SLUG] Job for anyone who wants to tutor IPT/SDD for year 11 and 12students

[James Dumay]

If anyone wants some extra cash tutoring Students from yr11 to yr 12
concerning Information Processes and Technology or Software Design and
Development, I have a job for you

Contemporary Coaching College

HEADING:
Tuition-Educational

ADDRESS
579 Sydney Rd
Seaforth
NSW, 2092
Australia
Ph: (02) 9948 2546

Just call and speak to John... tell them James sent you


James Dumay


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[SLUG] Need assortment of Apple Power PC s

[James Dumay]

If anyone has any old power pc macs they could donate to my little
project, that would be awsome - different types to show veritility
(spell) in my idea to the edu people...

So if you have any old macs you do not wish to keep or can give away,
email me or give me a ring on 0413259448

Peace, Love and Linux
James Dumay

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[SLUG] " Linux Edu Conf "

[James Dumay]

Dose anyone have any links to the "linux edu conf" ? anybody involved in
organising?

Just wondering, becouse I have been discussing with slug members about
using old outdated apple power macs as Linux Graphical Terminal Clients
and showing this at the conf

Anybody? Feel free to email me if you know about it or are interested in
this little project.

Yours
James Dumay

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