Re: [SLUG] Internet Connection
DJ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: cpaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:03 am Subject: Re: [SLUG] Internet Connection your figures come to c. A$170 per gig for international traffic. why? is it because of telstra, or what? Could it be that we have a population __less than 2%__ that of the USA? US Population: 2.85*10^8 Aus Population: 1.93*10^7 (1.93*10^7)/(2.85*10^8) = 0.068 = 6.8% 6.8% 2% On the other hand, our political clout on the world arena is definitely less than 2% that of the US.. -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] win4lin + reiserfs = ok
Andre Pang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hello, i was doing a search on google about reiserfs and win4lin and noticed that somebody (Jim Clark?) was trying to do it without success. report: win4lin 3.0 + kernel 2.4.4 + reiserfs works perfectly. i even munged it to work properly on a Debian system :). i'll put up a webpage about it sometime soon if i get enough replies to this message asking about it ... FWIW, I'd be interested to see how it can be installed under Debian... -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] OT - Telstra to cap flat rate ADSL Cable plans at 3Gb/month
Andre Pang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the 3GB cap is ridiculous. at least Telstra should not be calling it a 'freedom' plan. and people who are on optus@home (like myself) shouldn't take too much comfort either, since if Telstra pull off this stunt, Optus could just be as big as bastards and follow their lead. What's the situation with Optus? I thought Optus had to cap their broadband as well after calling their own product unlimited, and after coming under fire from the ACCC for kicking people out for violating the AUP. -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Inittab process respawning too fast
Have you tried commenting faxgetty out in inittab, and starting
faxgetty manually? What happens when you do this?
This is just telling you that faxgetty is exiting immediately
for some reason or another - and that init has given up
restarting it.
Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have an inittab process that is respawning too fast (keep getting
error messages) and I can not work out how to fix it - any assistance
welcome.
It is actually faxgetty (hylafax on Suse 6.4 system).
I've read the man init and inittab, but am none the wiser.These
talkabout initscript, shich Suse doesn't have.
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Re: [SLUG] find -exec cp {} current-directory.messages
Jamie Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins said:
Is there a way of telling find to copy a file in the directory where it
finds it?
I'm trying to run find . -name files.bbs -exec cp {} .messages \;
but this just copies each files.bbs into .message in the directory where
the command is run, rather than the directories where each files.bbs
exists
find . -name 'files.bbs' -exec cp {} `dirname {}`/.messages \;
That doesn't work. Try:
find . -exec echo `dirname {}` \;
and you will see why.
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Re: [SLUG] Query re a CD burner.
Bill Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone advise me on this, please? I need an external burner---called, in some magazines, a kit. I *think* I want an IDE type that will simply plug into the USB on the docking station. If I need a power supply (ie., the kit doesn't come with one) I can make it. I got myself a PCMCIA burner, an HP820E. It requires the linux PCMCIA Ninja drivers to work, and it works well for me. I've burnt lots of CDs with it faultlessly under linux, though the driver is still not of "release" quality (using it as a second CD drive still causes some kernel panics) It's also small enough to carry in my notebook case. The PCMCIA interface card that comes with it is really a SCSI card, though it's not advertised as such. Presumably it would be possible to use that card on other SCSI devices, but I haven't tried. Maybe a USB notebook burner would do better for you, though. -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Personal sacrifice and free software
Peter Rundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that we should try for a name change. The trouble with "free" in the English language is that it has two meanings. We need to the emphasize "Freedom" and not "costs nothing" which implies cheaper than cheap, which then implies poor quality. Terms like "Freedom software" or "Liberty Software" are closer to the desired meaning but don't sound very catchy. Where's that damn thesaurus. How 'bout "Libelle Software"? "Libre" software seems to be in widespread use in the US. Problem is it's not catchy, and I haven't seen it being used outside the US. "Libre" is spanish for "liberated". "Gratis" is spanish for "no cost". -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Read a:
"David Slater" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From a REAL beginner to Linux, How do I read my DOS zipped file on the A: drive ? (Because I want to activate my TANDBERG Tape drive, and I am hoping a downloaded firmware upgrade-driver might do the trick). Regs, David. $ mcopy a:file.zip . $ unzip file.zip Make sure you have mtools and unzip installed. -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] That somewhat theoretical problem.
Jason Rennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All very well, except that this is a contingency occurring early in the process. Even if the flag =1, the process will still continue down the loop. I'd like to find a way (other than using GOTO) simply to jump out of the loop, jump over the intervening subprograms (which are all concerned with continuing after a correct response has been received) and simply quitting. This might be a rather obvious answer (fear so) but does QBasic have the C equivalent of an exit() function call. It simply termiantes the program then and there. It also returns an error code to the opreating system. I guess it should be said here that there is an "unbreakable" golden rule in programming style which says multiple exit points in a function is a no-no and that there should only be one exit point at the end. Like most "unbreakable" golden rules in programming, there are many cases when one should break it. The problem is that everyone has a different idea on what those cases are. Blood has been spilled in various attempts to come to an agreement. :) Multiple exit points on error conditions is probably ok, but I'm not willing to risk life or limb to defend that assertion. -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation
Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and the winner is: (*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. Hmmm... yet another reason to use Linux. :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation
Jason Rennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Damn those Open Source Communists, they're a threat to true red-blooded Americans. Dont you hate this allusion. Especially, given that communism is 1 one that controls everything and decides what is best for the masses. Which is much more redmond (maybe they built there becasue of the red connotations) than the linux way. Jason On the other hand, capitalism is about making money, and so is Microsoft. Communism is about sharing resources instead of hoarding private property, and so is open source. As you can see, there are two ways of looking at this issue, and neither of them is particularly enlightening. This linux is communism/linux is capitalism thing has been done to death elsewhere... and nothing can be inferred from the arguments except that people love a good flame war. -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: Linux doesn't work was Re: [SLUG] SuSE Lays Off (Most) U.S. Staff
DaZZa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 9 Feb 2001, Raoul Golan wrote: I assume everyone's read this by now? http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/20010208/A20552-2001Feb8.html Talk about twisting the meaning - I would have hoped better standards from fairfax. Why would you expect better from Fairfax? They are, after all, journalists at large, the same as most of the others are. The large part is as in "largely without a clue". It's one thing to be clueless and to misreport something. This story goes beyond that, and appears to be designed to be misleading. -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Web browsing stupidity
enterfornone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By reboot, I mean I have a duel boot system and I reboot into Windows, Netscape has never killed Linux bad enough to need a reboot but it has killed X and regualrly kills itself. I've seen netscape kill X too. Beats me how that could happen. Before this happens netscape hangs X, and when I go into a text console for a kill -9 on netscape, it dies and brings X down with it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Php support
"Shannon Doyle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi people. I am experiencing some difficulties in getting my mandrake system to work with php support. I have installed apache from an rpm, then I tried to install mod_php3 this worked fine, however, whenever I try to go to a site that has a file with an extension of .php or .php3 my browser wants to doanload the file. I assume that there is something not quite right with the httpd.conf file. Like its missing a module entry or something. I have looked at the httpd.conf file and cannot see what or where i am missing anything. I presume when you say "I try to go to a site" you mean "I try to go to a page on my server". Did you add something like: IfModule mod_php3.c AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps /IfModule # The following is for PHP/FI (PHP2): IfModule mod_php.c AddType application/x-httpd-php .phtml /IfModule to your httpd.conf? -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Learning to program
Umar Goldeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't get me wrong.. I LOVE Perl!!! .. *smooch* .. If written neatly, I find it very readily understandable.. but then again - that goes for *any* language.. it's the coder, not the language that makes code bad. :) delurk Does that mean that even intercal code can be good, depending on the programmer? http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/intercal/ Some languages have a goto statement: intercal has a comefrom statement :) Maybe it should be taught to first-years at uni. /delurk -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS goes Open Source - sort of
John Ferlito [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Microsoft sues you and samba for copyright infringement among a whole heap of other things. Moral: Don't browse non open source code looking for ideas. If it's not open source then you can't use them. Is this really the case? Ideas cannot have a copyright placed on them... they can be patented, though. Surely it's OK to copy a non patented idea. -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!
Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dick Smith is right. Read whats on his jam, peanut butter etc. rant I can understand when people say "buy Australian made". By buying Australian made we create jobs in Australia. But why "buy Australian owned"? I prefer to support local small business, but if it comes to supporting either Dick Smith (NOT a small businessman), or a foreigner who manufactures goods here, why should I distinguish between them? Both need to pay Australian taxes. Both employ Australians. Both are likely to invest their profits where returns are greatest (i.e. not necessarily here in Oz) There is a certain amount of hypocrisy when Australian big business asks us to "buy Australian owned". When Australian big business invests oveseas instead of investing their profits locally, that's just "our" businesses "expanding in a global marketplace", isn't it? It's never business "taking jobs away from Australia", is it? On the other hand, they claim that foreign businesses investing in Australia are indicative of the "sellout of Australia to foreigners", right? Presumably the jobs these provide aren't real jobs, unlike those jobs created by good Australian corporations. Even corporate ownership has become a tricky affair. Australians can own US shares, and vice-versa. In any case, even the "buy Australian made" slogan has its problems. In this age of globalisation, it becomes a problem to state clearly where anything is "made"... raw materials from country A, transport by country B, preprocessing by country C, manufacturing by D, assembly by E, packaging by F, etc, etc. A label won't tell you any of this. Let's face it, the nation state is dead. Flag waving never made much sense, anyway. /rant -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] idnetd ?
"Peter McCarthy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the identd deamon all about ? How does it work and do I really need to run it ? I have real the man pages and it says it uses some User ID protocol. But if I run do not run it everything seems to work ok, at least so far... The reason why I ask is I believe it may be possible that someone is trying to hack my box RH 6.1 as my modem has been going crazy and a bunch of these in.identd deamons are running for some unknown reason. either a hack attempt or something else funny is going on. Thanx Peter McCarthy It helps you out if one of your users tries to break to someone else's machine, or otherwise tries to abuse someone else's system. The sys admin of that system can contact you with fairly reliable info about which of your users is breaking the rules. See the Security-HOWTO, and the man page. Most irc servers require you to run it before they accept a connection from you. You can also enable logging, and that can tell you why inetd is starting the daemons. -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Shell Script question
"Aaron Binns" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't have any manuals handy for this one so I thought Id ask the list my newbie question. I am writing a small shell script for work which reads in comma separated data and parses it to another program. I want to check each field to see if it is blank and if so exchange the blank for two single quotes (ie: '' ). I am trying to use an if statement right now, but I cant figure out how to represent a blank. if [ $field -eq "" ] then $do_something else $do_something_else fi What's wrong with the above picture? Aaron Better still, use if [ -z $field ] then $do_something else $do_something_else fi -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] TCPDUMP..
George Vieira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I'm trying to filter out a host and port at the same time but not sure how to type the expression.. I'm trying to do the following but on 1 line: tcpdump -x host 10.10.0.69 tcpdump -x port 80 Is there a way to do this to narrow my searchign down? try: tcpdump -x \( host 10.10.0.69 and port 21 \) Also, check out tcpdump2ascii - sometimes it's a lot better to look at ascii instead of hex! -- :%s/[Ll]inux/GNU\/Linux/g -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Help, please, with shell scripting for computing checksums
Daniel Freedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
First of all, I've been following slug for a bit as a Kernel Cousin under
SLUG Pearls, but I've never posted, so I hope this is not an inappropriate
or off-topic question.
I'm trying to use md5sum (from Gnu Text Utilities) to compute a checksum
for alot of files in my home directory or root directory. This wouldn't be
a problem, except that I want it to compute the checksums on all files in
ALL subdirectories (so that I can compare original with backup copy).
Maybe I'm being immensely stupid, but I don't see an easy way to
accomplish this with md5sum itself (it responds to directories "md5sum:
bin: Is a directory"), and I'm evidently not adept enough with shell
scripting to make this work. I actually looked through the source code to
think maybe I could modify md5sum itself (in case anyone else wanted to do
similar checksums), but I quickly got in over my head; the numerical
simulations I do seem _awfully_ different than coding for applications or
this type of file access :).
Any suggestions (or script fragments) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much,
Daniel
find dirname -depth -type f -exec md5sum {} \;
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