Re: [SLUG] Re: [activities] SLUG FebruaryMonthly Meeting - Python Game Programming *Tutorial*

[db]

On 25 February 2010 11:01, Robert Collins  wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 11:31 +1100, Tim 'mithro' Ansell wrote:
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> Don't forget to do your homework (Install Python, Pyglet and Rabbyt)
>> before this tutorial. The set-up page has been updated with instructions
>> for a number of other Linux distros. You can find it at
>>         http://wiki.slug.org.au/pythonprogrammingsetup
>
> Those docs suggest easy_install; run arbitrary from the internet. Yay!
>
> I suggest
> apt-get install python-pyglet python-rabbyt
> digitally signed packages \o/.
>
>
> -Rob
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Yes some one should edit the wiki and correct it.
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Re: [SLUG] 64-bit Karmic Koala or not?

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on x86_64 is that a python issue or  a variable size "issue" ?
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Re: [SLUG] *buntu won't start X

[db]

Try booting ubuntu with the safe graphics option. If you cannot find
that, boot normally then push control alt f1, to get to a terminal.


After doing that use an editor like nano to edit (nano)
/etc/X11/xorg.conf and under

(command sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf to edit this file).

Section "Device"
 put Driver  "vesa"

so it will now look like:


   Section "Device"
 Driver "vesa"
  EndSection

After you do this type  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  then type sudo
/etc/init.d/gdm start
Hopefully this will work for you.
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Re: [SLUG] Windows XP Pro OEM EULA and VirtualBox

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Um i am confused. So the oem license says you cannot virtualize the
windows xp from the downgrade ?
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Re: [SLUG] Windows XP Pro OEM EULA and VirtualBox

[db]

Why don't you just use the xp license as per the downgrade from windows vista?
.(which you said came with the dell laptop).
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Re: [SLUG] Data Redundancy, RAID5/LVM backup decisions

[db]

+1 QNAP. A lot of the QNAPS can be modified to run debian linux.

2009/11/12 Ken Wilson :
>
>
> Daniel Pittman wrote:
>>
>> Ken Wilson  writes:
>>>
>>> Daniel Pittman wrote:

 Sridhar Dhanapalan  writes:
>
> 2009/11/8 Kevin Shackleton :
>>
>> [...]
>>
 Otherwise, the DLINK DNS-[24]32 devices can also run Linux, or...
>>>
>>> D Link do run linux, but hard to do anything on them, I wanted to do
>>> rsync,
>>> but it only accepts ftp.
>>
>>    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dlink+dns-232+rsync
>>
>> Regards,
>>        Daniel
>>
> thanks daniel
> There has been progress. Fun_plug was not reliably working on 343 at the
> time I bought dns-343. Required upgrading firmware to one that had been put
> up on web but withdrawn. So in the end I used it as was. Looks like I have a
> project to revisit.
> Ken
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Re: FW: [SLUG] Slow browsing

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I believe the bug harrisony linked too has now been fixed please try updating.



2009/11/7 高远 :
>
> Hi Heracles,
> There is a Firefox addon named "FireBug". It was designed for web developers 
> but has a nice feature of request time monitoring. You may enable the "Net" 
> tab in firebug console and do an HTTP request (say, to google.com.au) and 
> Firebug will tell you where are all the time spent.See if it tells something.
> Regards,Ryan
>> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:11:19 +1100
>> From: herac...@iprimus.com.au
>> To: slug@slug.org.au
>> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Slow browsing
>>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>>
>> I should add that I am using a wireless connection but have not removed
>> eth0. tcpdump gets stuck at eth0.
>> I have removed eth0 from the manager but to no avail. I am only
>> guessing, but is it possible that having both a wireless and a wired
>> card is causing the delay?
>> Heracles
>>
>>
>> Heracles wrote:
>> > I should have been more specific, sorry.
>> > a. IPv6 is set to ignore
>> > b. I have a 1500/512 connection and it takes google.com.au/linux three
>> > minutes to start up.
>> > c. I tried using the dhclient.conf in Ubuntu but no improvement.
>> > d. prepending the ISPs DNS addresses helps a bit but something is still
>> > awry.
>> > I'll do a TCPDUMP and see what I get.
>> > Heracles
>> >
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Re: [SLUG] Port forwarding weirdities

[db]

There is a known bug in openwrt, at least on the 2.4 kernel. The bug
is that ... After some period time, forwarding a port from X to Y will
break  :) (forwarding will go screwy ). (where X / Y are different port numbers)

You can forward from Y to Y  reliably or should at least  should
be able too ;)



2009/11/3 Jeremy Visser :
> On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 21:37 +1100, Ishwor Gurung wrote:
>> What about just dumping NAT table i.e., without the grep magic foo?
>
> Sure. I've attached an `iptables -t nat -L` from working, and broken.
>
> (Not sure if such attachments are allowed on this list, but I have seen
> some pretty hideous top-posting on this list that is much worse than a
> couple of KB of text attachments.)
>
> What's weird is that the line that should make all the difference (the
> last line in both attachments) doesn't change at all.
>
> At time of writing, the brokenness is sending traffic from port 1240 to
> port 81 instead of 80. (Has now been ports 82 and 95 in the past.)
>
> The only differences between the two dumps are that Transmission doesn't
> have one of its UDP port forwards for some reason, our (dynamic) WAN IP
> has changed, and I pulled another port forward that I wasn't using.
>
> Given that it has been working and broken without much change, I cannot
> put my finger on what it is.
>
>> I think it could be a bug in OpenWRT. What specific revision is it?
>
> I'm running Kamikaze 8.09.1, r16278.
>
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Re: [SLUG] Penetration Test

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Daniel um ... ok. I don't see how a security audit is any different to
any other(audit). Audits should be done.

Rick i hope some one can help you. However, do consider the cost of a
server compromise when you are considering testing / having some one
else look at the server.



2009/10/31 Daniel Pittman :
> Rick Phillips  writes:
>
>> Would any member be interested in conducting a penetration test of a server
>> I administer?  If so, please contact me off list and I will explain the
>> circumstances.
>
> If it were possible, even in the most general of terms, I would be very
> curious to know what you hope to achieve through a penetration test.
>
> As far as I can see a penetration test gives you one piece of information:
> Were the attackers in question capable of breaking in to your network?
>
> What I can't see is how this then turns into anything useful: it might let you
> fix the issues they did discover, but nothing more — especially not, "are you
> actually secure".
>
>
> OTOH, you may see some value that I have missed, so I am very curious to know
> what that is, if it is possible for you to share the information.
>
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Re: [SLUG] Using a Linux live CD to recover a Windows installation DVD

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So do ensure you back up the data *before* touching it. You can use
ntfs-3g from a live cd environment (ubuntu etc.) to recover the data.
Side note: you may may not want to use the recovery partition, as it
might include extra software from the vendor.

2009/10/31 Ben Donohue :
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Usually the recovery partition is accessed by pressing F12, or F11 or
> whatever.
> This usually overwrites the system completely. You will lose forever the
> data on the partition that it overwrites.
> Better to pull the disk out and connect it as a slave to another PC. Recover
> the data. Then access the recovery partition to overwrite the disk back to
> the day it was purchased.
>
> Ben
>
>
> Kevin Shackleton wrote:
>>
>> I have someone's PC with a fairly corrupt Windows setup - drops to BSOD
>> after just a few seconds.  BSOD does not stay up long enough to read.
>> System runs fine with Ubuntu live boot (I initially suspected a hardware
>> problem like the power supply or CPU cooling).
>>
>> Of course these poor mortals didn't create a system setup / recovery DVD
>> with their new machine.  And I don't see them as handling anything but
>> XP.  The good news though is that using the live CD I see it there's a 6
>> GB sda1 FAT32 partition with the  'hidden' flag set.  The contents of
>> this partition seem to be exactly a Windows setup DVD of 3.70 GB.
>>
>> Question is - what do I do to recover the setup partition?  A couple of
>> options are to either set up the partition as not-hidden and bootable,
>> and set up a boot loader so I can pick this partition to boot from, or
>> else to write the contents of this partition to a bootable DVD, even
>> though there's presently a live CD in the optical drive. (I could make a
>> USB 'live CD').
>>
>> I looked in the sda2 ntfs volume and could not see a Windows utility to
>> do this job.  It's a NEC Powermate.  Thre is a NEC Utilities folder but
>> it's empty.
>>
>> (of course having access to the recovery option in Windows is no
>> assurance of achieving a stable system some time in the future!)
>>
>> I've done a bit of googling for some hints without success.  Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin.
>>
>>
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Re: [SLUG] Vanilla kernel headers

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I thought most people just used open-vm
http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/ these days

2009/10/24 Daniel Pittman :
> Ishwor Gurung  writes:
>>> I assume you worked it out, but the answer to your original question is:
>>>
>>> You need the kernel headers (and configuration) that match the kernel you
>>> are building the module against.  The "any-any" patch helps with newer
>>> kernels, but doesn't change the equation: build VMWare against the same
>>> headers as the kernel.  The reason for this is that different kernels, and
>>> different configuration options, all change the layout of binary data
>>> structures that the module refers to.
>>>
>>> Get that wrong and you can go direct to data corruption city, not passing
>>> go, and not collecting anything but a lot of grief on the way.
>>
>> I remember compiling headers couple of years ago on Potato/Etch (I think it
>> was Etch. The machine doesn't live with me anymore). Anyway, the thing with
>> vmware-config.pl is that it will _fail_ to compile a proper module if the
>> kernel headers are wrong or missing anyway.
>
> *nod*  Generally...
>
>> So, although your statement might still be valid (the corruption bit...
>> especially if you really intend to corrupt the data using special ABI
>> magickery), I think in the OPs case, it will simply fail to compile+link if
>> he/she gets the wrong headers.
>
> ...the result of a mismatch is a compilation failure, or an error caused by
> the checks in the Linux kernel to ensure that the module has a compatible ABI
> to the running kernel.
>
> However, those are not infallible, and I have come across plenty of (terribly
> bad) advice over the years like "...and then turn off ABI compatibility
> checking, so you can install the module, and..."
>
>
> In fairness, yes, what I presented was an extreme case, and the most likely
> result is the compilation failure you mention.  (For the OP: this compilation
> failure is also what the any-any stuff works with, when your kernel is newer
> than what was released at the time VMWare made their release. :)
>
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Re: [SLUG] Network Traffic Visualisation - any gui prgs/interfaces?

[db]

Perhaps you are after something like ntop ? (http://www.ntop.org/)

iptstate can also useful.

2009/10/19 David Gillies :
> bill wrote:
>>
>> In the "old days" when I used Win XP I had a gui tool that showed all
>> incoming/outgoing network/web  activity by port and IP address, and it was
>> useful for determining "off-site" activity etc when browsing the Web.
>
> I use a tool called iftop: http://www.ex-parrot.com/pdw/iftop/
>
> I guess you could also use wireshark or tcpdump as well
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Re: [SLUG] web based firewall config tool wanted

[db]

Seems overly excessive. Webmin can configure shorewall. What is the
issue with configuration via ssh.
(you can configure shorewall locally and test it before deploying the
config file to the remote location / server / firewall).






2009/9/23 Matthew Hannigan :
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 06:21:27PM +1000, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 03:38:07PM +1000, Grant Parnell wrote:
>> > I'm finding it difficult to believe there's no simple web based firewall
>> > configuration tool. I'm going to be running a cut-down Ubuntu-Hardy off
>>
>> ...
>>
>> It's killing me because I came across something like this just recently
>> but it had a distinctly non evocative name so it's lost to my brain.
>>
>> I'll let you know in case it pops back in.
>>
>> It was something hydrid open source; gpl for iptables and pf but 'pro'
>> /commercial version had cisco etc support.
>>
>> Not fwbuilder, something else, not listed in the usual wikipedia,
>> delicious, dmoz etc lists.
>>
>
> Woohoo found it.   However, it's not open source; it merely supports
> open source firewalls.  Minimum price US$4000!
>
>    http://runplaybook.com/
>
> (I told you it wasn't evocative)
>
> Courtesy of the firewall-wizards mailing list archive.
> http://seclists.org/firewall-wizards/2009/Jun/0034.html
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Re: [SLUG] Nokia one-ups IBM on Linux marketing

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While... it is cool ... I already run debian on my phone ;) (openmoko user).

This phone is just cool, mostly due to the insane / awesome hardware
in it + the fact its from nokia and running linux. I can't wait to see
one in real plastic :)


2009/8/30 Daniel Bush :
> 2009/8/28 Adam Kennedy 
>
>> Hi gang
>>
>> You may have noticed recently that Nokia has decided to pack a fairly
>> beefy Linux setup into their new super high end phone.
>>
>> What I didn't notice till today is that they've also had a shot at
>> making the shiniest ad for a Linux OS yet :)
>>
>> http://maemo.nokia.com/
>>
>
>
> What they didn't show was this:
> http://flors.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/screenshot13.png?w=500&h=300
> That sold me right there (well for novelty value I guess).
>
> Imagine being able to apt-get on your phone.  It's great (and a little
> suprising) to see a big company running with the debian system like this and
> leaving it pretty much open unlike apple.  I hope they kickass with this
> product - although it's almost too geeky-cool to last/succeed.
>
> On one of the forums I was reading people were talking about making use of
> the Xserver on the phone to access apps on beefier machines - some mention
> of nx enhancements to X for slow connections.  (yes, I also know about rdp
> and vnc)
>
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Re: [SLUG] DNS Appliances/Web Frontends

[db]

Please no. not webmin. There are much better front ends for doing dns.
gadmin-bind (the newer ) version is fairly decent -> google is your
friend / apt-cache search dns blah

2009/8/29 Ben Donohue :
> www.webmin.com
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
> UnspecifiedId wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> a) can anyone recommend a good virtual DNS appliance with a decent Web GUI
>> frontend or
>> b) good Web Front ends for DNS. I was thinking of looking at MyDNS,
>> MyDNSConfig
>>
>> either needs to have the ability to do zone transfers. Any recommendations
>> or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
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Re: [SLUG] petition for multi-platform etax software

[db]

Perhaps they should to the smart thing and remove the 'client'
(program) and host it on a ssl site, which you can use with any good
browser.
It is just a 'fancy' program with export / import methods which uses
SSLeay + ie  isn't it ... ?



2009/7/17 Jeremy Visser :
> On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 06:29 +1000, Meryl wrote:
>> When I rang the ATO Tech Helpdesk about obtaining CSI software for Linux
>> I was told that their CSI software could only be used on "secure"
>> operating systems like Windows and Apple.
>> *choke!!!*
>
> Actually, they do have an obscurely-placed link on their website that
> has a tarball with some "Linux version" of the CSI software.
>
> 
>
> 
>
> Mind you, it's very poorly thrown together, and I've never successfully
> got it to run. They probably only tested it on something like RH9 and
> said "Yay, let's ship it!".
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Setting up Bluetooth

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Hi I have a question for the list.

Is there a method of automatically accepting vcards over bluetooth ?
Like say you want to have a party and you want to get peoples contact
information.



p.s.
I  know i can just script hcitool scan or use btscanner  but if
some one can answer my question above that would be great! (as device
names are fairly long etc.).



2009/7/1 konrad Zielinski :
> Just as a final update. My connection problems have been solved with
> some assistence from a coworker :)
>
> for whatever reason /etc/defaults/bluetooth had enable bluetooth set
> to off.  and need to be set to on.
>
> After that it was a case of running:
>
> sudo bluetooth-wizard
>
> apperently their is no command line tool that can do pairing at the moment.
>
> I can now mount my phone via bluetooth.
>
> regs
>
> Konrad.
>
> 2009/7/1 konrad Zielinski :
>> The obex stuff is what I'm looking for however the problem I seem to
>> have now is getting my phone and my laptop paired. when I try the obex
>> things I get a prompt on my phone asking for a pass code. And I can't
>> seem to find any way of setting this code so that pairing can take
>> place.
>>
>> 2009/6/30 elliott-brennan :
>>> Hi Konrad,
>>>
>>> This is what I sent to someone recently. Let me
>>> know how you go.
>>>
>>> One of the things I've noticed is that Dolphin -
>>> the impaired brother of Konqueror - wants to open
>>> the files when I click on them. I had trialled
>>> KDE4 on my Hardy install but then removed it. It
>>> wasn't polished enough. So I've still got Dolphin
>>> and it wants to take over in these instances. It
>>> seem to work often.
>>>
>>> One thing to do is ensure you have 'tree view'
>>> activated, as this seems to work better in
>>> Konqueror for accessing the file system on devices
>>> I'm connected to.
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> Make sure you have:
>>> obexftp
>>> obexserver
>>> quobex
>>> bluez-pin
>>> bluez-utils
>>> kdebluetooth
>>>
>>> installed. If you don't use KDE just exclude that bit.
>>>
>>> You may then need to do:
>>>
>>> sudo /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
>>>
>>> Make sure that bluetooth is enabled on the phone
>>> and that the device is visible or 'findable'.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then, run
>>> hcitool scan
>>>
>>> This gives you the address of the device, and
>>> likely the name, such as:
>>>
>>> 01:14:9a:b3:gc:de Motorola phone
>>>
>>>
>>> Next, run:
>>>
>>> sdptool browse
>>>
>>> this helps find the channel
>>>
>>> The list will be very long. What we're looking for
>>> is something like this:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> SERVICE is a name (string) or UUID (0x1002)
>>> patr...@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sdptool browse
>>> Inquiring ...
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> This is what you're looking for. The channel
>>> associated with OBEX
>>>
>>> Service Name: OBEX Object Push
>>> Service Description: OBEX Object Push
>>> Service Provider: Motorola
>>> Service RecHandle: 0x10008
>>> Service Class ID List:
>>>  "OBEX Object Push" (0x1105)
>>> Protocol Descriptor List:
>>>  "L2CAP" (0x0100)
>>>  "RFCOMM" (0x0003)
>>>    Channel: 9
>>>  "OBEX" (0x0008)
>>>
>>> Here it is at the bottom:
>>>
>>> Channel 9
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay. This is the interesting part.
>>>
>>> You now have and address:
>>>
>>> 01:14:9a:b3:gc:de
>>>
>>> and a channel:
>>>
>>> 9
>>>
>>> In your file browser, put this in the URL or
>>> address window:
>>>
>>> obex://[01:14:9a:b3:gc:de]:9
>>>
>>> Hit enter, and you should get a list of the
>>> folders that are on the device you've connected to.
>>>
>>> I tend to use 'tree view' in my view options. You
>>> should then be able to browse, copy from and too,
>>> the various folders on the device.
>>>
>>> On the mobile, you should be able to use an option
>>> like 'push' or 'send' to send files to the 'nix
>>> box. Make sure you're aware of the pop-up that
>>> occurs when your box sees the phone trying to send
>>> files to it.
>>>
>>> For security reasons you should always have to
>>> manually approve files being received from a
>>> device - also turn off your bluetooth when not needed.
>>>
>>> See how you go.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> konrad Zielinski wrote:
 Just a couple of notes that may be relevent

 1) The system I have this working on is 386 Jaunty
      The system with problems is amd_64 jaunty
      I was incorrect when I said I was running 8.10, it is definetly 9.04

 2) I don't normally use Gnome on my laptop so its possible that parts
 of what the Gnome Applet expects to be present is absent (though I'm
 not getting any useful error messages anywhere that I can see).

 2009/6/30 elliott-brennan :
> Hi Konrad,
>
> I have a Nokia N95 8G with the same OS and have got this working 'okay'. I
> understand there are apparently problems with the Ubuntu Bluetooth stack 
> (or
> so I'm informed).
>
> When I get home I'll dig out the documentation I wrote up fo