Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-17 Thread Amos Shapira
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 2:41 AM, jam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You get a NAT'd address, can't even remember what it was. I want to say a
> 192
> but that would be dumb.


As long as it's not "real" address, no-ip/dyndns are not relevant anyway and
the only practical solution I can think of is, as already mentioned, some
sort of a tunnel initiated from the machine to the outside world.

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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-14 Thread jam
On Saturday 15 March 2008 09:21:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Data rates range from 10K to 300K and can vary in seconds. The biggest
> > issue
> > is finding YourBox behind their network. I have the data logger make
> > regular
> > ssh calls to TheServer to establish a tunnel back to the logger. All
> > cheap and easy.
>
> Do you get a public IP or is it NAT'ed by Telstra? If it's a public IP then
> dyndns /no-ip worked perfectly for me.
> (no-ip stopped working a few weeks ago after four-five years of smooth
> work, can't figure out what went wrong but just switched to dyndns).

You get a NAT'd address, can't even remember what it was. I want to say a 192 
but that would be dumb.
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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-14 Thread Barrie Hall



Do you get a public IP or is it NAT'ed by Telstra? If it's a public IP then
dyndns /no-ip worked perfectly for me.
(no-ip stopped working a few weeks ago after four-five years of smooth work,
can't figure out what went wrong but just switched to dyndns).



If you sign up for the Telstra Next G product, you will get a private IP address, if you sign 
up for the BigPond Wireless product you will receive a public IP address.


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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-14 Thread Amos Shapira
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:54 AM, jam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Data rates range from 10K to 300K and can vary in seconds. The biggest
> issue
> is finding YourBox behind their network. I have the data logger make
> regular
> ssh calls to TheServer to establish a tunnel back to the logger. All cheap
> and easy.


Do you get a public IP or is it NAT'ed by Telstra? If it's a public IP then
dyndns /no-ip worked perfectly for me.
(no-ip stopped working a few weeks ago after four-five years of smooth work,
can't figure out what went wrong but just switched to dyndns).

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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-11 Thread jam
On Wednesday 12 March 2008 10:00:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am doing remote telemetry with a small linux box (of course) and then
> using sms to transfer the data.
>
> Can anyone recommend a supplier of cheap sms for large quantity?
>
> Within a few months 2000 per day.

Notwithstanding everything West of Alice is Largely Unexplored telstra's nextG 
in Perth is OK certainly good enough for what you require.

Data rates range from 10K to 300K and can vary in seconds. The biggest issue 
is finding YourBox behind their network. I have the data logger make regular 
ssh calls to TheServer to establish a tunnel back to the logger. All cheap 
and easy.
You could also have the loggers call and dump
James
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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-10 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008, Phil Scarratt wrote:

> 992 is in bytes

Yeah I just noticed that. My bad.

Still, 10 megabytes @ 19 cents a megabyte is still a lot cheaper than
the cost of 2000 messages. It just means you can do it over GPRS versus
going for a current-generation 3G dataplan..



Adrian


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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-10 Thread Phil Scarratt

Adrian Chadd wrote:

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008, Martin Visser wrote:

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 At 160 bytes a transaction (normal SMS length), 2000 a day is roughly
 300 kilobytes uncompressed. * 31 days is ~ 10 gig of data.

^^^  ~ 10 Meg me thinks


Oops, didn't group reply;

160*2000
32
160*2000*31
992



992 is in bytes
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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-10 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008, Martin Visser wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  At 160 bytes a transaction (normal SMS length), 2000 a day is roughly
> >  300 kilobytes uncompressed. * 31 days is ~ 10 gig of data.
> 
> ^^^  ~ 10 Meg me thinks

Oops, didn't group reply;

160*2000
32
160*2000*31
992


What did I do wrong?




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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-10 Thread Martin Visser
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  At 160 bytes a transaction (normal SMS length), 2000 a day is roughly
>  300 kilobytes uncompressed. * 31 days is ~ 10 gig of data.

^^^  ~ 10 Meg me thinks


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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-10 Thread Adrian Chadd
Is there any reason you can't use a *G dataplan to fire off the data
versus SMS?

At 10c a SMS you're up for a $6k bill each month.

At 160 bytes a transaction (normal SMS length), 2000 a day is roughly
300 kilobytes uncompressed. * 31 days is ~ 10 gig of data. Maybe with
compression you could squeeze that 2:1 into a data plan for (hopefully
far, far under) $50 a month.

Just a thought,



Adrian

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008, Richard Hayes wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> I am doing remote telemetry with a small linux box (of course) and then 
> using sms to transfer the data.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a supplier of cheap sms for large quantity? 
> 
> Within a few months 2000 per day.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Richard Hayes
> 0414 618 425
> 
> 

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Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-10 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:33:04PM +1100, Richard Hayes wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I am doing remote telemetry with a small linux box (of course) and then  
> using sms to transfer the data.
>
> Can anyone recommend a supplier of cheap sms for large quantity? 
>
> Within a few months 2000 per day.
wouldn't it be cheaper to open a ip connection with gprs and send udp
packets ?



>
> regards,
>
> Richard Hayes
> 0414 618 425
>
>

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[SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?

2008-03-10 Thread Richard Hayes

Dear list,

I am doing remote telemetry with a small linux box (of course) and then 
using sms to transfer the data.


Can anyone recommend a supplier of cheap sms for large quantity? 


Within a few months 2000 per day.

regards,

Richard Hayes
0414 618 425


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