Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
Only yesterday I installed LinuxMint 4.0 (Gnome) on one of my PCs which has 5 HDD's ( which Mint automounts), 4 of them full of data ( almost) and wondered why the drives were coninually bashng away. Finally remembered about indexing ( had same problem with Beagle on Kubuntu some time ago). Fixed problem - removed tracker from system. Why distros don't give one the option of install/don't install such programs I cannot understand, especially when distro concerned automounts everything. Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
quote who=bill Why distros don't give one the option of install/don't install such programs I cannot understand Because if you take that choice into account, there are 100 more that people will whinge about. The best approach is to do the right thing by default and let users with specific needs use the fully installed, complete interface to modify their environment. Unfortunately in this case, I'm not sure the right decision was made at the beginning of that process (ie. include tracker). - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2008: Melbourne, Australiahttp://lca2008.linux.org.au/ He'd never undressed a woman with his eyes. Perhaps army boots, school uniform, or a nightie, but never undressed. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Death to trackerd
Hi all, Once again, on my laptop, I have had to issue a: sudo dpkg --purge tracker libdeskbar-tracker tracker-utils \ tracker-search-tool rm -rf ~/.cache/tracker/ to get rid of this CPU sapping and disk filling parasite. I noticed it when I had a compile running slower than it should have. I ran top and sure enough, there was trackerd chewing away my CPU and after a bit of fiddling with find, there was a 900 megabyte tracker cache file. The thing is, I know I had to delete this thing when I upgraded to Feisty and again when I upgraded to Gutsy some months ago, but now I had to do it again. It must have been re-installed when I upgraded or installed something else. As a preventative measure, in case it gets installed again, I edited ~/.config/tracker/tracker.cfg and set the following variables: LowMemoryMode=true InitialSleep=4500 WatchDirectoryRoots=~/.cache/tracker EnableWatching=false I also deleted all 900 megabytes in ~/.cache/tracker and then made that directory read only. On my laptop I have 800 megabytes of PDF (technical papers, PhD theses etc), and about a gigabyte of source code. The source code includes multple Bzr branches of my own stuff and a bunch of stuff off the net, from tarballs and from public CVS/Bzr/SVN/etc repositories. The stuff from the net can hang around for as little as a couple of hours before being deleted. For the source code, I simply don't want something as stupid as tracker digging through this stuff. For the PDFs, I actually would like to have something that indexes it and allows me to search, but again I think tracker is way to stupid for this task. So, does anyone have anything positive to say about trackerd? Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Open Source and Free Software means that you never sacrifice quality of the code for meeting deadlines set up by people not participating directly in the software development process. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 22:25 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: So, does anyone have anything positive to say about trackerd? It shows how hard robust and painless indexing is to achieve :). -Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo So, does anyone have anything positive to say about trackerd? No, but Beagle 0.3.0 was recently released, which is a massive improvement on previous (already better than tracker) versions. Maybe give it a whirl. I have absolutely no idea why Canonical chose to ship Tracker... Ugh. I exclude ~/src because I don't find desktop search of source code useful. :-) - Jeff -- GNOME.conf.au 2008: Melbourne, Australia http://live.gnome.org/Melbourne2008 Professor Tanenbaum did not convince AdTI that Linus Torvalds wrote the Linux kernel from scratch. - Ken Brown, Sponsored Moron -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
Jeff Waugh wrote: No, but Beagle 0.3.0 was recently released, which is a massive improvement on previous (already better than tracker) versions. Maybe give it a whirl. I have absolutely no idea why Canonical chose to ship Tracker... Ugh. Maybecause beagle has mono? :-) I exclude ~/src because I don't find desktop search of source code useful. Exactly. And while tracker allows you to include directories ie /home/$USER, it doesn't allow you to exclude directories like /home/$USER/Bzr, /home/$USER/SVN and /home/$USER/CVS. Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Gambling(n): A discretionary tax on those asleep during high school maths. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo What does that do to the config file? .config/tracker/tracker.cfg Aha, you are lucky that I still have one lying around: NoWatchDirectory=/home/jdub/src; (Which means Tracker doesn't use gconf for this stuff... Holy moly...) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2008: Melbourne, Australiahttp://lca2008.linux.org.au/ In C, just getting a socket open or something can make you feel like you accomplished something. - Colin Walters -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
Jeff Waugh wrote: On the Ignored Files tab of the (hideous) Tracker preferences dialogue, you can add ignored paths. I had /home/jdub/src in that list. http://perkypants.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/tracker-ignored-files.png What does that do to the config file? .config/tracker/tracker.cfg Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - The beauty of religious mania is that it has the power to explain everything. Once God (or Satan) is accepted as the first cause of everything which happens in the mortal world, nothing is left to chance...logic can be happily tossed out the window. - Stephen King -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo Jeff Waugh wrote: No, but Beagle 0.3.0 was recently released, which is a massive improvement on previous (already better than tracker) versions. Maybe give it a whirl. I have absolutely no idea why Canonical chose to ship Tracker... Ugh. Maybecause beagle has mono? :-) They already ship mono stuff (as does everyone else). I exclude ~/src because I don't find desktop search of source code useful. Exactly. And while tracker allows you to include directories ie /home/$USER, it doesn't allow you to exclude directories like /home/$USER/Bzr, /home/$USER/SVN and /home/$USER/CVS. On the Ignored Files tab of the (hideous) Tracker preferences dialogue, you can add ignored paths. I had /home/jdub/src in that list. http://perkypants.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/tracker-ignored-files.png - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2008: Melbourne, Australiahttp://lca2008.linux.org.au/ 'Cause remember, smug is beautiful. - Zachary Beane -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
Jeff Waugh wrote: Aha, you are lucky that I still have one lying around: NoWatchDirectory=/home/jdub/src; Thanks Jdub. Tracker might now actually do something sensible on my machine even if the defaults are completely braindead for a power user like me. Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Every line of code you write that you feel gross about will ultimately come back to haunt you. Therefore, avoid writing code that makes you feel dirty. -- Scott Hanselman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
(Which means Tracker doesn't use gconf for this stuff... Holy moly...) Yuck! its not like its bloody hard to hack applications to use GConf! My flatmate had similar issues to Eric when he upgraded to Gutsy. The default resource allocation for Tracker is unlimited. So it scanned all 80 gigs of existing data when he first logged in after upgrading. When I asked him how he liked the new release he replied - Bloody slow. - James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
James Dumay wrote: My flatmate had similar issues to Eric when he upgraded to Gutsy. I have not now, nor have I ever been called 'Eric'. Its Erik, with a 'k' :-). Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - C is a programming language. C++ is a cult. -- David Parsons in comp.os.linux.development.apps -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: James Dumay wrote: My flatmate had similar issues to Eric when he upgraded to Gutsy. I have not now, nor have I ever been called 'Eric'. Its Erik, with a 'k' :-). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric 'The name Eric is of Scandinavian origin. It is derived from the name Eiríkr, meaning complete ruler or ever ruler from the words aiza, honor, or ei ever and ríkr,ruler in Old Norse. The most common historical form is Erik.' :-) Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Support Unit Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Death to trackerd
Sorry! :( On Dec 2, 2007 4:49 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Dumay wrote: My flatmate had similar issues to Eric when he upgraded to Gutsy. I have not now, nor have I ever been called 'Eric'. Its Erik, with a 'k' :-). Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - C is a programming language. C++ is a cult. -- David Parsons in comp.os.linux.development.apps -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
