[SLUG] Earliest open source?

2010-02-14 Thread Peter Chubb

What's the earliest reference to open source anyone knows?  I found
this in a 1965 paper:

The Multics system will be published when it is operating
substantially, and will therefore be available for implementation
on any equipment with suitable characteristics.  Such publication
is desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand
public scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers;
second, in an age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to
present and future system designers to make the inner operating
system as lucid as possible so as to reveal the basic system
issues.


(From: Corbato and Vyssotsky, `Introduction and Overview of the
MULTICS system' proc. fall joint computer conference,
1965. http://www.multicians.org/fjcc1.html ) 

(Oh, and the Mulicts system *is* published: see 
http://web.mit.edu/multics-history/ 

Mind you, even though the intention was for the source to be
open-source, the development process was closed-source, and ran very
very late... so th source wasn;t released until 1999, 15 years after
development stopped...)

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Re: [SLUG] Earliest open source?

2010-02-14 Thread Ken Foskey
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 09:05 +1100, Peter Chubb wrote:
 What's the earliest reference to open source anyone knows?  I found
 this in a 1965 paper:

How like Unix does the following story sound?

Open Source (not as a name) existed in IBM in the old mainframe systems.
Systems Programmers, who are now systems administrators, were  hard core
programmers.

IBM had (from memory) Share tapes which was supplied by an independent
group of users called share(?).  Programmers wrote useful utilities and
sent in this code.  The code went to the various systems programmers on
tape who used this code, enhanced and sent it back.  This code was
shared between sites.  I think that TSO (Time Share Option) started like
this originally however I may be wrong.  TSO was a command line for
Mainframe which was batch oriented until then, yes punched cards.

Systems Programmers also worked on the Operating System itself.  While
it was proprietary the source was supplied and the Systems Programmers
patched the source and returned the patches to IBM.  I believe that the
reason it became the most stable system available was the bazaar of
programmers on installed systems, not the cathedral of IBM support.

As a sideline the source was effectively stolen by another vendor who
created a competing system. There was a lot of politics and there was a
really strange settlement.  IBM was forced to share the source with the
other vendor by the US government.

Ken

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Re: [SLUG] Earliest open source?

2010-02-14 Thread james
On Monday 15 February 2010 09:00:05 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 What's the earliest reference to open source anyone knows?  I found
 this in a 1965 paper:
 
 The Multics system will be published when it is operating
 substantially, and will therefore be available for implementation
 on any equipment with suitable characteristics.  Such publication
 is desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand
 public scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers;
 second, in an age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to
 present and future system designers to make the inner operating
 system as lucid as possible so as to reveal the basic system
 issues.
 
 
 (From: Corbato and Vyssotsky, `Introduction and Overview of the
 MULTICS system' proc. fall joint computer conference,
 1965. http://www.multicians.org/fjcc1.html ) 
 
 (Oh, and the Mulicts system is published: see
  http://web.mit.edu/multics-history/ 
 
 Mind you, even though the intention was for the source to be
 open-source, the development process was closed-source, and ran very
 very late... so th source wasn;t released until 1999, 15 years after
 development stopped...)

Cica 1980 I obtained and built emacs

James
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