[SLUG] Glen Turner : The return of the Walled Garden
HI all, Glen Turner's blog post tweaked my interest. A bit of Googling showed that Internode is offering IPv6 ADSL connections: http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/25688-ANALYSIS-Why-Internode-s-IPv6-product-makes-sense Is anyone using one of the IPv6 enabled Internode conenctions and care to tell us how it's going? Cheersm Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody thinks of complaining. -- Jef Raskin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Glen Turner : The return of the Walled Garden
Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glen Turner's blog post tweaked my interest. A bit of Googling showed that Internode is offering IPv6 ADSL connections: http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/25688-ANALYSIS-Why-Internode-s-IPv6-product-makes-sense Is anyone using one of the IPv6 enabled Internode conenctions and care to tell us how it's going? I have not used it, which makes me slightly outside your question, but my answer as to why is potentially illuminating: At the moment an ADSL service with IPv6 (eg: anyone but a business with Layer 2 Ethernet connectivity) means running an IPv6 on IPv4 tunnel back to their head end. None of the ADSL DSLAM equipment currently supports IPv6 in PPP, with the Agile equipment going through testing at present and likely to be deployed for native IPv6 support some time late this year.[1] Until then there is relatively little advantage to running an IPv6 tunnel via my ISP, compared to experimenting with the same thing via some other random tunnel broker -- and for production it has all the same issues that an IPIP tunnel always has. That said, reports from people using the service have been uniformly good in my experience, in that it more or less just works. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] ...if their estimates are correct. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Glen Turner : The return of the Walled Garden
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Is anyone using one of the IPv6 enabled Internode conenctions and care to tell us how it's going? I'm an Internode customer at home (my employer doesn't do domestic premises). So I asked. Internode are currently shipping IPv6 to colocation rack customers. They are working towards shipping it to ADSL customers. They're got in in trial on one of their BRASs, but it's their test BRAS and so won't be solid (since the nature of test is that there's no change control, outage notification, etc). I've got a daughter at uni who will kill me if the Internet is down when an assignment is due (assignments these days are submitted over the Internet), so I had to pass on that. Give it a few months to bed in and for Internode to work out what a ADSL customer offering should look like and things should be very, very fine. The major fly in the ointment is the lack of IPv6 ADSL routers. To my knowledge there's only the Cisco stuff, a D-Link, and Linux boxes doing NAT connected via a ADSL modem. Tunnel brokers are fine for experimentation. It's nice to see Internode offer one, as the AARNet one is incredibly hammered (the most-heavily used Hexago box in the world). But neither the ISP nor the customer will want tunnels in the long run -- gamers cry about latency now, just wait until all their gaming traffic routes via Adelaide :-) What Internode have done is impressive. Someone in the commercial space had to make a start, and they have. More power to their arm. -- Glen Turner http://www.gdt.id.au/~gdt/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Glen Turner : The return of the Walled Garden
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:53 +0930, Glen Turner wrote: Tunnel brokers are fine for experimentation. It's nice to see Internode offer one, as the AARNet one is incredibly hammered (the most-heavily used Hexago box in the world). But neither the ISP nor the customer will want tunnels in the long run -- gamers cry about latency now, just wait until all their gaming traffic routes via Adelaide :-) Should be fine for internode games servers though :) -Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Glen Turner : The return of the Walled Garden
their traffic is already tunneled, its part and parcel of ADSL. Dean Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:53 +0930, Glen Turner wrote: Tunnel brokers are fine for experimentation. It's nice to see Internode offer one, as the AARNet one is incredibly hammered (the most-heavily used Hexago box in the world). But neither the ISP nor the customer will want tunnels in the long run -- gamers cry about latency now, just wait until all their gaming traffic routes via Adelaide :-) Should be fine for internode games servers though :) -Rob -- http://fragfest.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
