[SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
Nathan: I wouldn't want to be you, being the only yank - oh the what that you shall cop! ;-0 However, If you're asking around you'll probably be told to ignore UnWired. However, if you only operate within Syd or Melb, then its actually a lot more reliable than most Sydneysiders know. I think they've given up advertising so much up there, however this is the Unwired story as far as I can gather: They started up in Sydney, and cover that town however a lot of dropouts gave them a bad name. Where I live, Melbourne, they use Nathan Buckley (AFL star) to promote and bc they had their teething probs up north, they're growing quite well. I don't know what else you would use if you don't have a landline - any comments on it? I don't know about default ports, but this is what I know so far. I'm sharing a landline and don't stray too far outside the CBD but I'd appreciate any other suggestions? Henz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
I have been using Unwired in Sydney for most of the year. Provided you check out reception quality in your area, which you can do via their website, it is a good service and about 99.5% reliable. John. hav wrote: Nathan: I wouldn't want to be you, being the only yank - oh the what that you shall cop! ;-0 However, If you're asking around you'll probably be told to ignore UnWired. However, if you only operate within Syd or Melb, then its actually a lot more reliable than most Sydneysiders know. I think they've given up advertising so much up there, however this is the Unwired story as far as I can gather: They started up in Sydney, and cover that town however a lot of dropouts gave them a bad name. Where I live, Melbourne, they use Nathan Buckley (AFL star) to promote and bc they had their teething probs up north, they're growing quite well. I don't know what else you would use if you don't have a landline - any comments on it? I don't know about default ports, but this is what I know so far. I'm sharing a landline and don't stray too far outside the CBD but I'd appreciate any other suggestions? Henz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
This one time, at band camp, john gibbons wrote: > I have been using Unwired in Sydney for most of the year. Provided you > check out reception quality in your area, which you can do via their > website, it is a good service and about 99.5% reliable. I think this is the key thing about Unwired, and not something they make terribly clear in their marketing. It works well in some areas and very very badly in other areas. My area is supposedly well covered, but I was getting modem speeds and >modem latency. What they also don't make clear is they'll refund your money if you can't get it to work acceptably. So it is an option worth trying out. -- Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.rumble.net "Impact: Non-privileged primitive users can cause the total destruction of your entire invasion fleet and gain unauthorized access to files." - CERT Advisory CA-96.13 - Alien/OS Vulnerability -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
When it comes to unwired, I have nothing but negative things to say. I would strongly discourage it's use unless you don't mind the following features: - Even though I'm in a good coverage area (Summer Hill), and occasionally get the supposed full signal strength (green light), I get drop outs regularly for no apparent reason. In addition, the modem doesn't recognise that it's dropped out until you actually attempt to send packets and then it tries to reconnect. Incredibly annoying. - You can get good speeds, but the latency is poor. Don't even think about any sort of gaming. - The plans are expensive in comparison to ADSL. In reality, I don't think you'll save that much when compared to a similar plan + line rental. - Support is pretty poor. - They block outgoing SMTP except to their SMTP servers that are not hosted by Unwired, nor are they even in Australia. In addition, this server does not support any form of secure connection, which means you need to authenticate with your Unwired username and password to send mail. Even more annoying is the fact that this SMTP server is occasionally listed on SpamCop which means your mail gets blacklisted and bounced...fun. I've brought this up with tech. support, but they won't make the changes necessary (it appears to be a semi-open relay). - They selectively shape traffic such as FTP, Bittorrent etc., which as Linux users, is a killer. And when I say shape, I mean, they just start dropping packets until you get about 95% packet loss. - And the clincher, once you get capped, you get dropped to 32K speeds, which, on an Unwired connection with packet loss, is the equivalent of no connection at all. Seriously. To make matters worse, they changed this speed from 64K WITHOUT informing their customers, essentially changing the contract Terms & Conditions without notice. It might seem like I'm being overly harsh or perhaps just ranting, but everything is the truth. Just head over to the unwired forums or whirlpool and you'll see exactly the same stuff. Byron Hillis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
Byron Hillis wrote: When it comes to unwired, I have nothing but negative things to say. I would strongly discourage it's use unless you don't mind the following features: - Even though I'm in a good coverage area (Summer Hill), and occasionally get the supposed full signal strength (green light), I get drop outs regularly for no apparent reason. In addition, the modem doesn't recognise that it's dropped out until you actually attempt to send packets and then it tries to reconnect. Incredibly annoying. - You can get good speeds, but the latency is poor. Don't even think about any sort of gaming. - The plans are expensive in comparison to ADSL. In reality, I don't think you'll save that much when compared to a similar plan + line rental. - Support is pretty poor. - They block outgoing SMTP except to their SMTP servers that are not hosted by Unwired, nor are they even in Australia. In addition, this server does not support any form of secure connection, which means you need to authenticate with your Unwired username and password to send mail. Even more annoying is the fact that this SMTP server is occasionally listed on SpamCop which means your mail gets blacklisted and bounced...fun. I've brought this up with tech. support, but they won't make the changes necessary (it appears to be a semi-open relay). - They selectively shape traffic such as FTP, Bittorrent etc., which as Linux users, is a killer. And when I say shape, I mean, they just start dropping packets until you get about 95% packet loss. - And the clincher, once you get capped, you get dropped to 32K speeds, which, on an Unwired connection with packet loss, is the equivalent of no connection at all. Seriously. To make matters worse, they changed this speed from 64K WITHOUT informing their customers, essentially changing the contract Terms & Conditions without notice. It might seem like I'm being overly harsh or perhaps just ranting, but everything is the truth. Just head over to the unwired forums or whirlpool and you'll see exactly the same stuff. Wow I didn't know they had so much crap going on in their network. A good friend of mine from Glebe had Unwired, and the 5 religious disconnections per day was enough for him to get rid of that ISP. Yes, they made sure he got his daily dose of at least 5 disconnections per day. Thank god I never had to deal with them. They would have driven me crazy... If you're going for ADSL, I give Internode 5 starts for support, service and every other category you can think of. =P Carlo Byron Hillis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
Byron, I've been with unwired for a few years, and although I never new half of what you claim, it definitely falls in line with my experiences. I find their customer support very good compared to other's, but the level of service you get is absolutely terrible for all the reasons Byron has just said. On 12/20/06, Carlo Sogono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Byron Hillis wrote: > When it comes to unwired, I have nothing but negative things to say. I > would strongly discourage it's use unless you don't mind the following > features: > > - Even though I'm in a good coverage area (Summer Hill), and > occasionally get the supposed full signal strength (green light), I get > drop outs regularly for no apparent reason. In addition, the modem > doesn't recognise that it's dropped out until you actually attempt to > send packets and then it tries to reconnect. Incredibly annoying. > - You can get good speeds, but the latency is poor. Don't even think > about any sort of gaming. > - The plans are expensive in comparison to ADSL. In reality, I don't > think you'll save that much when compared to a similar plan + line rental. > - Support is pretty poor. > - They block outgoing SMTP except to their SMTP servers that are not > hosted by Unwired, nor are they even in Australia. In addition, this > server does not support any form of secure connection, which means you > need to authenticate with your Unwired username and password to send > mail. Even more annoying is the fact that this SMTP server is > occasionally listed on SpamCop which means your mail gets blacklisted > and bounced...fun. I've brought this up with tech. support, but they > won't make the changes necessary (it appears to be a semi-open relay). > - They selectively shape traffic such as FTP, Bittorrent etc., which as > Linux users, is a killer. And when I say shape, I mean, they just start > dropping packets until you get about 95% packet loss. > - And the clincher, once you get capped, you get dropped to 32K speeds, > which, on an Unwired connection with packet loss, is the equivalent of > no connection at all. Seriously. To make matters worse, they changed > this speed from 64K WITHOUT informing their customers, essentially > changing the contract Terms & Conditions without notice. > > It might seem like I'm being overly harsh or perhaps just ranting, but > everything is the truth. Just head over to the unwired forums or > whirlpool and you'll see exactly the same stuff. Wow I didn't know they had so much crap going on in their network. A good friend of mine from Glebe had Unwired, and the 5 religious disconnections per day was enough for him to get rid of that ISP. Yes, they made sure he got his daily dose of at least 5 disconnections per day. Thank god I never had to deal with them. They would have driven me crazy... If you're going for ADSL, I give Internode 5 starts for support, service and every other category you can think of. =P Carlo > > Byron Hillis > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
Carlo, If you're going for ADSL, I give Internode 5 starts for support, service and every other category you can think of. =P How about the "Bad Customer Service Category"? :P DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
$quoted_author = "David Lloyd" ; > > Carlo, > > >If you're going for ADSL, I give Internode 5 starts for support, service > >and every other category you can think of. =P > > How about the "Bad Customer Service Category"? :P I'd be interested in that story... I've been with them since at least 2001 in 3 different locations and have nothing but praise for their service, support and the quality of their network... cheers marty -- You need only two tools, WD-40 and duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use the WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
