[SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-02 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Hi all,

Does anyone know tool to list all local wifi access points with their
channel numbers and encryption types? Preferably command line (but I'm
running Gnome with network manager on a Debian system if there is
something that fits in with that).

Cheers,
Erik
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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-02 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:

> Does anyone know tool to list all local wifi access points with their
> channel numbers and encryption types? Preferably command line (but I'm
> running Gnome with network manager on a Debian system if there is
> something that fits in with that).

Thanks for ctd on #slug for applying the cluebat. Its simple:

iwlist $interface scan

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-03 Thread dave b
On 3 October 2010 16:10, Erik de Castro Lopo  wrote:
> Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know tool to list all local wifi access points with their
>> channel numbers and encryption types? Preferably command line (but I'm
>> running Gnome with network manager on a Debian system if there is
>> something that fits in with that).
>
> Thanks for ctd on #slug for applying the cluebat. Its simple:
>
>    iwlist $interface scan
>

kismet is also fairly useful ;)

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-03 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
dave b wrote:

> On 3 October 2010 16:10, Erik de Castro Lopo  wrote:
> > Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know tool to list all local wifi access points with their
> >> channel numbers and encryption types? Preferably command line (but I'm
> >> running Gnome with network manager on a Debian system if there is
> >> something that fits in with that).
> >
> > Thanks for ctd on #slug for applying the cluebat. Its simple:
> >
> >    iwlist $interface scan
> >
> 
> kismet is also fairly useful ;)

Execpt that it doesn't seem to support my wifi hardware.

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread darrin hodges
The aircrack-ng  suit contains a utility that
will list AP's.  It never ceases to amaze me how many open networks there
still are out there, that and loads of people still use WEP.

Darrin.

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo

> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know tool to list all local wifi access points with their
> channel numbers and encryption types? Preferably command line (but I'm
> running Gnome with network manager on a Debian system if there is
> something that fits in with that).
>
> Cheers,
> Erik
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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
darrin hodges wrote:

> The aircrack-ng  suit contains a utility that
> will list AP's.

Sorry, any program whose getting started tutorial [0] has a first
step of "Determine the chipset in your wireless card" is going in
the wrong direction.

I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.

Erik

[0] http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=getting_started)

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread darrin hodges
Who said anything about 'cracking' other people's wifi? Airodump-ng is an
audit utility and is similar to kismet, it will tell you all the AP's in the
area including the channel that they are on.  The best way to determine if
it works is simply to try it, I did not bother about working out the
chipset.  You'll find that most of them work with either kismet or
airodump-ng.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo

> wrote:

> darrin hodges wrote:
>
> > The aircrack-ng  suit contains a utility
> that
> > will list AP's.
>
> Sorry, any program whose getting started tutorial [0] has a first
> step of "Determine the chipset in your wireless card" is going in
> the wrong direction.
>
> I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
> I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
> least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.
>
> Erik
>
> [0] http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=getting_started)
>
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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> darrin hodges wrote:
> 
> > The aircrack-ng  suit contains a utility that
> > will list AP's.
> 
> Sorry, any program whose getting started tutorial [0] has a first
> step of "Determine the chipset in your wireless card" is going in
> the wrong direction.
> 
> I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
> I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
> least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.

* get a windows box with a wireless card
* grab inssider
* run inssider
* done/done.



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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Mick Pollard
Hello all,


On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 17:15:55 +1100
Erik de Castro Lopo  wrote:

> I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
> I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
> least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.

If you have an Android phone then there is a great app that does everything you 
have asked for plus some more.
http://www.android.com/market/#app=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer

It even has a mode that will suggest the best channel for you.

> 
> Erik
> 
> [0] http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=getting_started)
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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread dave b
> * get a windows box with a wireless card
> * grab inssider
> * run inssider
> * done/done.


... Yes that works. However, imho the windows part is a real turn off ;)
You know kismet runs on a lot of os's ...
http://www.kismetwireless.net/screenshot.shtml

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Daniel Pittman
Erik de Castro Lopo  writes:
> darrin hodges wrote:
>
>> The aircrack-ng  suit contains a utility that
>> will list AP's.
>
> Sorry, any program whose getting started tutorial [0] has a first
> step of "Determine the chipset in your wireless card" is going in
> the wrong direction.
>
> I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
> I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
> least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.

Cool.  Don't forget that if you are using 2.4GHz there are *three* channels,
no matter what the card says: only 1, 6, and 11 are non-overlapping, so you
will get a performance hit from anything that crosses over between them.

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010, dave b wrote:
> > * get a windows box with a wireless card
> > * grab inssider
> > * run inssider
> > * done/done.
> 
> 
> ... Yes that works. However, imho the windows part is a real turn off ;)

Only if don't already have it installed. :)

> You know kismet runs on a lot of os's ...
> http://www.kismetwireless.net/screenshot.shtml

.. but having to pick the right monitor mode for the right card just to get
it to work was an absolute pain.

I finally managed to get it working on my netbook w/ an atheros chipset; but
it was fiddly. And I'm -hacking- on the wireless code at the moment. :)
(I then just rebooted back into XP mode to run inssider, as all I wanted was
RSSIs.)

That said, Kismet is great if you want to do detailed wireless debugging. :)
It just isn't easy. :)

That (all) said, it wouldn't be hard to write a *NIX Inssider clone; it
"just" uses the card-reported RSSI from channel scans. Kismet does a lot more
and thus wants monitor/intercept/debugging modes (which is why it's fiddly.)


adrian

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