Re: [SLUG] Modules not found... (well then I ask a favour)

2000-11-22 Thread Steven downing

Thanks Guys,  I will have to remember that apt-zip as I'm found a bit of a more 
permanent solution.
Buy old  3G HD, find out old 33k non-winmodem, install in machine near phone line, 
with Debian on the new hard drive, slow and nasty... oh well.
Then I can either apt-zip away, or possibly temporarily Ethernet across the backyard 
to my room (I live in the garage, hence no phone, hence no net).  I just thought I'd 
ask if anyone had a bunch of the packages lying around already on cd or in their 
apt-cache (or whatever it is)

 Matthew Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/11/00 17:50:01 
James Wilkinson wrote:
 
 This one time, at band camp, Steven downing said:
 
 Try apt-zip

Hmmm... I haven't seen this before.

From debian.org, about the apt-zip package:

"These scripts simplify the process of using dselect and apt on a
non-networked Debian box, using removable media like ZIP floppies.
One generates a `fetch' script (supporting backends such as wget and
lftp, in a modular, extensible way) to be run on a host with better
connectivity, check space constraints of your removable media, and then
install the package on your Debian box."

Looks like they're assuming that the connected box is *nix. Steven's is
'doze. Doh!


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[SLUG] Modules not found.

2000-11-21 Thread Steven downing

Any Sluggers care to comment on why I had to perform the following 'dirty hack'
I rolled my own kernel (even used debian Kernel-package! ) and discovered it wasn't 
finding my modules on boot up.  I'd done update-modules and all that stuff, and it was 
finding some of the modules... i.e
It found smbfs.o in /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/fs/smb/
but wouldn't find sb and soundcore in /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/drivers/sound/
Depmod wasn't searching those directories for some reason. Uname -r reported the right 
name. /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/modules.dep only listed the smbfs modules.
Intially I got the modules to load by including /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/ in 
/etc/modules.conf  and this worked.  Then I looked at the setup for the plain Vanilla 
debian 2.2.17 kernel and found that by renaming my /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/drivers to 
be /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/misc everything (depmod and subsequent bootup) worked fine 
without having to explicitly put the path in modules.conf.
Is this just an incompatibility between the stable depmod and the newer kernel 
source/modules setup?
Anyway, it works, I just thought I ask why it didn't in the first place?  I need to 
get my head around all this modules stuff as I will be installing a nvidia tnt2 with 
its kernel drivers, and 'rolling my own' again in the near future.

Steve

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Re: [SLUG] Modules not found.

2000-11-21 Thread James Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Steven downing said:

Depmod wasn't searching those directories for some reason.

I read that you need to upgrade your modutils for 2.4, as they've gone
and changed the layout of /lib/modules again.

Sorry, I don't got any urls to this.

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Re: [SLUG] Modules not found.

2000-11-21 Thread Matthew Dalton

Steven downing wrote:
 
 Any Sluggers care to comment on why I had to perform the following 'dirty hack'
 I rolled my own kernel (even used debian Kernel-package! ) and discovered it wasn't 
finding my modules on boot up.  I'd done update-modules and all that stuff, and it 
was finding some of the modules... i.e

Install modutils 2.3.20 from debian unstable.


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Re: [SLUG] Modules not found... (well then I ask a favour)

2000-11-21 Thread Steven downing

Nuts!  Once again I need debian unstable...
So is there anyone going to the meeting on Friday with a cd or three of the 
unstable archive (in its most stable incarnation if possible).  Unfortunately the 
machine in question is unconnected, and our net-connected M$ machine has no cd-burner, 
and a 56K dialup.
Payment/Gratitude gratefully given...



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Re: [SLUG] Modules not found... (well then I ask a favour)

2000-11-21 Thread Steven downing

Unfortunately I figure this would mean trolling through the debian archive directories 
to find all the dependencies needed for a package (source or binary) with a Windows 
ftp client and then finding the required number of floppies to transfer it all across. 
 For things like task-xwindows-complete (or even core) this is pretty onerous, and I 
need to go to xfree4.0.1 for the new nvidia drivers, which is why I was looking for a 
cd, as well as the upgrade you mentioned.
Thanks for the suggestion though...
I love the Debian way, but without net connection or a burner its a little harder to 
keep up to date.

 Matthew Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/11/00 15:29:58 
Steven downing wrote:
 
 Nuts!  Once again I need debian unstable...
 So is there anyone going to the meeting on Friday with a cd or three of the 
unstable archive (in its most stable incarnation if possible).  Unfortunately the 
machine in question is unconnected, and our net-connected M$ machine has no 
cd-burner, and a 56K dialup.
 Payment/Gratitude gratefully given...

Just compile the source packages from modutils-2.3.20 under potato and
install the resulting deb. That's what I did.

See this article:
http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/sections.php?op=viewarticleartid=1 


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Re: [SLUG] Modules not found... (well then I ask a favour)

2000-11-21 Thread James Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Steven downing said:

Unfortunately I figure this would mean trolling through the debian archive =
directories to find all the dependencies needed for a package (source or =
binary) with a Windows ftp client and then finding the required number of =
floppies to transfer it all across.  For things like task-xwindows-complete=
 (or even core) this is pretty onerous, and I need to go to xfree4.0.1 for =
the new nvidia drivers, which is why I was looking for a cd, as well as =
the upgrade you mentioned.

Try apt-zip

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Re: [SLUG] Modules not found... (well then I ask a favour)

2000-11-21 Thread Matthew Dalton

James Wilkinson wrote:
 
 This one time, at band camp, Steven downing said:
 
 Unfortunately I figure this would mean trolling through the debian archive =
 directories to find all the dependencies needed for a package (source or =
 binary) with a Windows ftp client and then finding the required number of =
 floppies to transfer it all across.  For things like task-xwindows-complete=
  (or even core) this is pretty onerous, and I need to go to xfree4.0.1 for =
 the new nvidia drivers, which is why I was looking for a cd, as well as =
 the upgrade you mentioned.
 
 Try apt-zip

Hmmm... I haven't seen this before.

From debian.org, about the apt-zip package:

"These scripts simplify the process of using dselect and apt on a
non-networked Debian box, using removable media like ZIP floppies.
One generates a `fetch' script (supporting backends such as wget and
lftp, in a modular, extensible way) to be run on a host with better
connectivity, check space constraints of your removable media, and then
install the package on your Debian box."

Looks like they're assuming that the connected box is *nix. Steven's is
'doze. Doh!


Matthew


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