Re: [SLUG] Mutt Basics

2001-11-29 Thread Grant Parnell

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Matt - wrote:

> I also don't understand the local mail server
> concept. Is it true that it's common practice to
> have a mail server on my system constantly receive
> mail and then offer it to my email programs - it
> seems like most email programs want to check "local
> mail" by default".

This is very common practice it's the default on most installations I'd 
say. Certainly RedHat & friends in any case. This enables you to pick & 
chose any mail client you care to use and you can keep the exact same 
mailbox.

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Re: [SLUG] Mutt Basics

2001-11-27 Thread David Fitch

On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 07:14:07PM +1100, Matt - wrote:
> I am looking for a brief introduction to Mutt, I
> have searched for a few guides on the internet
> but am actually still having trouble finding out
> how to specify my mail servers.

you don't basically.
It's true you can make mutt retrieve mail from a pop server
(only one though) but don't bother, use fetchmail to do it for you.

For doco, have you checked /usr/doc/mutt* on your system?
there's manuals and faqs etc that come with it (or see www.mutt.org).

Mutt is simply a mail reader.
So to do what you want you would normally have 3 programs
working together:
- fetchmail to retrieve your pop email
- mutt to read it and compose email (MUA - mail user agent)
- sendmail/postfix/exim/ssmtp (or whatever) to send the email
out to your ISP (MTA - mail transfer agent)

This is the traditional unix way of having small simple programs
each doing a single job well.

> I also don't understand the local mail server
> concept. Is it true that it's common practice to
> have a mail server on my system constantly receive
> mail and then offer it to my email programs - it
> seems like most email programs want to check "local
> mail" by default".

yes, in the case I've described above the MTA is your local
mail server which receives the email (from fetchmail in this
case) and stores it in /var/mail (or /var/spool/mail).

So fetchmail retrieves the email from your ISP, passes it to
your local MTA which stores it in /var/mail ready to be read
by your MUA (ie. mutt).

Dave.

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Re: [SLUG] Mutt Basics

2001-11-27 Thread Damien Elmes


"Matt -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi group,
> 
> I am looking for a brief introduction to Mutt, I
> have searched for a few guides on the internet
> but am actually still having trouble finding out
> how to specify my mail servers. I actually find
> it a little strange that many program options
> are set up from the shell using "environment
> variables", for example for rtin:
> 
> NNTPSERVER='news.xyz.com'
> export NNTPSERVER
> 
> Why aren't these options available from within
> rtin/mutt ? It seems like strange practice .. :)

other apps also use these env vars - hence not having to set them all
over the place.

> 
> I also don't understand the local mail server
> concept. Is it true that it's common practice to
> have a mail server on my system constantly receive
> mail and then offer it to my email programs - it
> seems like most email programs want to check "local
> mail" by default".

mutt can have POP support built in, but the standard practise is to
use a tool like fetchmail to retrieve the mail to your local machine
first. mutt then checks somewhere like /var/spool/mail. 

sending mail requires you run a SMTP server (something simple like
ssmtpd which does nothing other than forward to your ISP's mail server
should be fine).

when you use a more "user friendly" tool like netscape or evolution,
they have a built in simple SMTP server for  delivering mail to your
ISP, and built in POP support for checking mail.

cheers!

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[SLUG] Mutt Basics

2001-11-27 Thread Matt -

Hi group,

I am looking for a brief introduction to Mutt, I
have searched for a few guides on the internet
but am actually still having trouble finding out
how to specify my mail servers. I actually find
it a little strange that many program options
are set up from the shell using "environment
variables", for example for rtin:

NNTPSERVER='news.xyz.com'
export NNTPSERVER

Why aren't these options available from within
rtin/mutt ? It seems like strange practice .. :)

I also don't understand the local mail server
concept. Is it true that it's common practice to
have a mail server on my system constantly receive
mail and then offer it to my email programs - it
seems like most email programs want to check "local
mail" by default".


Matt

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