[SLUG] OT domain name and company name

2007-03-07 Thread Ben Donohue

Hi all,

It used to be that to get a .com.au domain name you had to have a 
company or business name.

Is this still the case as I've heard different responses.

Also what if you have .com.au domain name and you close your company or 
business related to the domain name, do you lose the .com.au domain name?
Or is it once you have the domain name, it's yours forever? (so long as 
you pay the yearly fee).


TIA,
Ben

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[SLUG] OT domain name and company name

2007-03-07 Thread Richard Hayes
It used to be that to get a .com.au domain name you had to have a 
company or business name.

Is this still the case as I've heard different responses.


Yes, almost you need to 'prove' that you are entitled to register the name.

To quote the auDA policy:

1. To be eligible for a domain name in the com.au 2LD, registrants must be:

a) an Australian registered company; or

b) trading under a registered business name in any Australian State or 
Territory; or


c) an Australian partnership or sole trader;

d) a foreign company licensed to trade in Australia; or

e) an owner of an Australian Registered Trade Mark; or

f) an applicant for an Australian Registered Trade Mark ; or

g) an association incorporated in any Australian State or Territory; or

h) an Australian commercial statutory body.

2. Domain names in the com.au 2LD must:

a) exactly match, acronym or abbreviation of the registrant’s company or 
trading name, organization or association name or trademark; or:


b) be otherwise closely and substantially connected to the registrant.



Also what if you have .com.au domain name and you close your company or 
business related to the domain name, do you lose the .com.au domain 

name?
Or is it once you have the domain name, it's yours forever? (so long as 
you pay the yearly fee).


Yes, for all practical purposes. There is no need to 'prove' continuing 
substantially connected to the registrant.


regards

Richard Hayes


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Re: [SLUG] OT domain name and company name

2007-03-07 Thread Sam Lawrance


On 08/03/2007, at 7:21 AM, Richard Hayes wrote:

It used to be that to get a .com.au domain name you had to have a  
company or business name.

Is this still the case as I've heard different responses.


Yes, almost you need to 'prove' that you are entitled to register  
the name.


To quote the auDA policy:

1. To be eligible for a domain name in the com.au 2LD, registrants  
must be:


a) an Australian registered company; or

b) trading under a registered business name in any Australian State  
or Territory; or


c) an Australian partnership or sole trader;

d) a foreign company licensed to trade in Australia; or

e) an owner of an Australian Registered Trade Mark; or

f) an applicant for an Australian Registered Trade Mark ; or

g) an association incorporated in any Australian State or  
Territory; or


h) an Australian commercial statutory body.

2. Domain names in the com.au 2LD must:

a) exactly match, acronym or abbreviation of the registrant’s  
company or trading name, organization or association name or  
trademark; or:


b) be otherwise closely and substantially connected to the registrant.



Also what if you have .com.au domain name and you close your  
company or business related to the domain name, do you lose  
the .com.au domain

name?
Or is it once you have the domain name, it's yours forever? (so  
long as you pay the yearly fee).


Yes, for all practical purposes. There is no need to 'prove'  
continuing substantially connected to the registrant.


Don't rely on it.  If the registrant eligibility is based on the  
company or business, and the company or business no longer exists,  
there is no eligibility to use the domain.


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Re: [SLUG] OT domain name and company name

2007-03-07 Thread david
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 07:37 +1100, Sam Lawrance wrote:
 On 08/03/2007, at 7:21 AM, Richard Hayes wrote:
 
  It used to be that to get a .com.au domain name you had to have a  
  company or business name.
  Is this still the case as I've heard different responses.
 
  Yes, almost you need to 'prove' that you are entitled to register  
  the name.
 

My experience is that once you have a name, it's unlikely to be taken
from you. I have some legacy names that haven't been registered business
names for years. OTOH, I wouldn't rely on that! If I registered a
business name and then found that someone was illegally sitting on that
domain name without authority, I would definitely take action and I'm
sure any business person would.

You have to quote some form of authority (ABN, business name
registration etc) but I'm pretty sure it isn't checked. I may be wrong. 

Personally, I think it's silly to register a name you aren't entitled
to. It's a recipe for trouble.

I've even gone to the trouble of trademarking .com names in the USA if I
thought it was really going to matter down the track. As I'm sure most
of you know, the .com tld is set up specifically to maximise income for
registrars. The Australian system is nominally better in my not so
humble opinion.

  To quote the auDA policy:
 
  1. To be eligible for a domain name in the com.au 2LD, registrants  
  must be:
 
  a) an Australian registered company; or
 
  b) trading under a registered business name in any Australian State  
  or Territory; or
 
  c) an Australian partnership or sole trader;
 
  d) a foreign company licensed to trade in Australia; or
 
  e) an owner of an Australian Registered Trade Mark; or
 
  f) an applicant for an Australian Registered Trade Mark ; or
 
  g) an association incorporated in any Australian State or  
  Territory; or
 
  h) an Australian commercial statutory body.
 
  2. Domain names in the com.au 2LD must:
 
  a) exactly match, acronym or abbreviation of the registrant’s  
  company or trading name, organization or association name or  
  trademark; or:
 
  b) be otherwise closely and substantially connected to the registrant.
 
 
 
  Also what if you have .com.au domain name and you close your  
  company or business related to the domain name, do you lose  
  the .com.au domain
  name?
  Or is it once you have the domain name, it's yours forever? (so  
  long as you pay the yearly fee).
 
  Yes, for all practical purposes. There is no need to 'prove'  
  continuing substantially connected to the registrant.
 
 Don't rely on it.  If the registrant eligibility is based on the  
 company or business, and the company or business no longer exists,  
 there is no eligibility to use the domain.
 

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Re: [SLUG] OT domain name and company name

2007-03-07 Thread Sam Lawrance


On 08/03/2007, at 11:37 AM, david wrote:


On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 07:37 +1100, Sam Lawrance wrote:

On 08/03/2007, at 7:21 AM, Richard Hayes wrote:


It used to be that to get a .com.au domain name you had to have a
company or business name.
Is this still the case as I've heard different responses.


Yes, almost you need to 'prove' that you are entitled to register
the name.



My experience is that once you have a name, it's unlikely to be taken
from you. I have some legacy names that haven't been registered  
business

names for years. OTOH, I wouldn't rely on that! If I registered a
business name and then found that someone was illegally sitting on  
that

domain name without authority, I would definitely take action and I'm
sure any business person would.

You have to quote some form of authority (ABN, business name
registration etc) but I'm pretty sure it isn't checked. I may be  
wrong.


Personally, I think it's silly to register a name you aren't entitled
to. It's a recipe for trouble.


I think we can agree that like so many things, it's all around  
managing risk :-)


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