Re: [SLUG] Open source log analyser tools (or: Alternatives to Splunk)

2012-05-09 Thread Simon Rumble
On 9 May 2012 15:20, Mark Walkom markwal...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are looking at Splunk for syslog analysing to close a hole in our
 application visibility, but it's expensive.

 I've looked at alternatives like logstash and graylog2, but I wanted to see
 if anyone had some experiences they would be willing to share on either
 splunk or other.
 This was raised a couple of years ago but I figure the scene has changed a
 fair bit since then!


Splunk isn't expensive and it's bloody amazing. US$6,000 for 500 megs a day
perpetual license. How much log data are you generating that this seems
expensive? I doubt you'll find anything that comes close.

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Re: [SLUG] Open source log analyser tools (or: Alternatives to Splunk)

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Walkom
We're looking at 2G a day, which is AUS$30K a year. And were on the S end
of SME so it's a hell of a lot.

The only way we could cut this amount down would be is if we wrote a
customer parser that read the application logs that cut out all the
replicated crap (mostly environment variable stuff) and spat out the logs
to a separate dir for splunk to read.
But then we need to deal with extra storage requirements.

Again, when you are a small operation with a small budget, money rules.
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Re: [SLUG] Open source log analyser tools (or: Alternatives to Splunk)

2012-05-09 Thread Daniel Solsona
Hi,

It really depends on what are your needs.

I don't know much about the fancy things from splunk, but you can do some
cool things with logstash.

There is also a nice ui for logstash, kibana (
https://github.com/rashidkpc/Kibana)


On 9 May 2012 17:04, Mark Walkom markwal...@gmail.com wrote:

 We're looking at 2G a day, which is AUS$30K a year. And were on the S end
 of SME so it's a hell of a lot.

 The only way we could cut this amount down would be is if we wrote a
 customer parser that read the application logs that cut out all the
 replicated crap (mostly environment variable stuff) and spat out the logs
 to a separate dir for splunk to read.
 But then we need to deal with extra storage requirements.

 Again, when you are a small operation with a small budget, money rules.
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Re: [SLUG] Open source log analyser tools (or: Alternatives to Splunk)

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Walkom
On 9 May 2012 17:13, Daniel Solsona dsols...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 It really depends on what are your needs.


We want to track a file as it hits our comms server (via FTP/HTTP),
transfers to our app server, processes and is then generated out to the
comms server and then picked up by the recipient.

That will use the following logs;

   1. FTP/HTTP daemon
   2. FTP process
   3. Application processing (x2, in then out)
  1. Here we will probably have to link the in and out process using
  some database queries
  4. FTP process
   5. FTP/HTTP daemon

It's convoluted, but our architecture restricts what we can do, and I don't
know if we can make enough changes in the time I have to make it easier. I
can probably create the parser I mentioned earlier.
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Re: [SLUG] Open source log analyser tools (or: Alternatives to Splunk)

2012-05-09 Thread Daniel Solsona
With logstash you have an agent in each server. There you can configure
inputs, filters and outputs.

Inputs: file, syslog, etc
Filters: grep, regexp. Here you can do magic.
Outputs: file, elasticsearch, redis, amqp, etc (lots of possibilities)

Check the docs to see if there is any filter/output that works for you.

I reckon you can do what you need with logstash. But you can probably do
the same with some scripts.
On May 9, 2012 5:26 PM, Mark Walkom markwal...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: [SLUG] Open source log analyser tools (or: Alternatives to Splunk)

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Walkom
On 9 May 2012 19:23, Daniel Solsona dsols...@gmail.com wrote:

 With logstash you have an agent in each server. There you can configure
 inputs, filters and outputs.

 Inputs: file, syslog, etc
 Filters: grep, regexp. Here you can do magic.
 Outputs: file, elasticsearch, redis, amqp, etc (lots of possibilities)

 Check the docs to see if there is any filter/output that works for you.

 I reckon you can do what you need with logstash. But you can probably do
 the same with some scripts.


We want a nice front end for helpdesk, plus we'd like to potentially roll
it out to other aspects of the business.
BI is something that would be a good value add to sell as well :)
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[SLUG] Open source log analyser tools (or: Alternatives to Splunk)

2012-05-08 Thread Mark Walkom
We are looking at Splunk for syslog analysing to close a hole in our
application visibility, but it's expensive.

I've looked at alternatives like logstash and graylog2, but I wanted to see
if anyone had some experiences they would be willing to share on either
splunk or other.
This was raised a couple of years ago but I figure the scene has changed a
fair bit since then!

Cheers,
Mark
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