Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
There really is a tax that specifically applies to free software in Poland. Either way I'd confirm things with an actual Pole before getting too worried. A taxation law that silly is too silly to catch on. Yeah, right... They said that about GST too !! Just hope the ATO doesn't see this thread...:-( -- Regards, Jon -- "It is irresponsible to connect a Windows machine to the Internet" John Wiltshire - SLUG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
Software doesnt exist, so why should i pay for it? lets say i put a scsi disk with mac on it onto a sparc machine? nothing, its as good as a blank disk (basically) Why should i pay for a magnetic configuration? I mean, lets say i wave a magnet near a disk, in theory i could come up with something that would do something usefull (sometimes i think this is how windows is developed) should i pay for that? Dean Jon Biddell wrote: There really is a tax that specifically applies to free software in Poland. Either way I'd confirm things with an actual Pole before getting too worried. A taxation law that silly is too silly to catch on. Yeah, right... They said that about GST too !! Just hope the ATO doesn't see this thread...:-( -- Regards, Jon -- "It is irresponsible to connect a Windows machine to the Internet" John Wiltshire - SLUG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
Dean Hamstead wrote: Why should i pay for a magnetic configuration? I mean, lets say i wave a magnet near a disk, in theory i could come up with something that would do something usefull (sometimes i think this is how windows is developed) I agree with your basic point here (especially about Windows :-), but this is a pretty weak analogy. It's easy to counter this with statements about the difference of effort that goes into waving your magnet as opposed to writing code, and then go into an argument that in paying for software you're paying for the effort taken in writing it - you're not paying for the magnetic configuration itself, you're paying for the amount of effort that went into creating that configuration. (Just playing devils advocate here). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
quote who="Dean Hamstead" Software doesnt exist, so why should i pay for it? Why should i pay for a magnetic configuration? should i pay for that? You're confusing money with value. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "The ability to procrastinate is what separates us from the machines." - Chris Gregory, Desktop Magazine -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
Not really, since money is a representation of value. Money is worth nothing if we place no value upon it. I think Ken got me good though. I still think taxing free software is silly. I wonder if it would be possible to create a license forbidding taxation on it. I guess if your selling it, it needs to be taxed. But if you download it... Dean Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Dean Hamstead" Software doesnt exist, so why should i pay for it? Why should i pay for a magnetic configuration? should i pay for that? You're confusing money with value. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "The ability to procrastinate is what separates us from the machines." - Chris Gregory, Desktop Magazine -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
quote who="Dean Hamstead" Not really, since money is a representation of value. Money is worth nothing if we place no value upon it. Ah. Then I rest my case. :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- - What inspired you to become a bus driver? - Linus Torvalds. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
Just hope the ATO doesn't see this thread...:-( Well if it makes you feel any better... Big Brother *IS* watching... I was recently (a few months back) asked for advice from the ATO regarding tracking any and every online transactions/sales/commerce etc etc.. I did my best to instill the concept of "bugger off, don't bother - the data you need will be provided by the banks ultimately anyway".. but we'll see. Australia = Overregulated Police State. //umar. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
John Ryland wrote: Ouch. That bites I would be interested to see such a move. Would Microsoft admit that staroffice is on par with thier office suite? Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
Ouch. That bites John On Tuesday 21 November 2000 15:23, Rick Welykochy wrote: This is of concern! A snippet from the LINK mailing list: -rickw -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:06:54 +1100 From: Fred Pilcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LINK] Shh - don't tell Johnny [SNIP] Funny thing about star office 7, poland have introduced a tax on free software (freeware/shareware/GNU - anything you dont pay for). One person got taxed on six Linux/star office setups based on the valuation that they were worth just as much as 6 windows NT/Office setups. Apparently some people just can't win. Hope the idea does not spread. Tax laws in that part of the world are a tad more socialist than most places though so maybe we wont suffer the same fate -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Poland taxes GNU/opensource/freebeer
poland have introduced a tax on free software (freeware/shareware/GNU - Bring out the samizdat CD-burners! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
