[SLUG] Problems running X in Red Hat 7.3 - Help?
Hey Guys, Just hoping to get a bit of a helping hand with a server set up of Red Hat Linux 7.3. Ive set it up on an older Pentium I machine in the hope of bringing it back from the grave, and the installation appears to go fine, however upon booting, KDE or GNOME fails to run, citing memory problems (not enough) as being the cause. The machine also doesnt have a graphics card...and this may be the obvious cause of the problems. Can someone point me in the right direction on this. Does RH 7.3 require more RAM in order to run, a graphics card perhaps? I have the shell running fine, but it's X that appears to be struggling with the current hardware. What other options are available for aged and lesser quality hardware? All i really need is a box that will act a firewall between my win2k network and the internet. thanks in advance Rod.STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Problems running X in Red Hat 7.3 - Help?
Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions wrote:
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> The machine also doesnt have
> a graphics card...and this may be the obvious cause of the problems.
What does it do for video now?
You don't need gnome/kde on a firewall box and even then, use something
light like tvwm (?) if you really need graphical interfaces.
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Re: [SLUG] Problems running X in Red Hat 7.3 - Help?
On Sunday 02 February 2003 09:04, Terry Collins wrote: > Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions wrote: > > ,,,snip > > > The machine also doesnt have > > a graphics card...and this may be the obvious cause of the problems. Missed most of this post which makes it bad form to reply ... but I thought ALL computers required memory, CPU and a graphics (video) card to even boot. What machine are we talking about (courious), or is there a way to fix a bios on certain mobo's so it doesn't seek video output to boot (always willing to learn new tricks). regards Mick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Problems running X in Red Hat 7.3 - Help?
Rod, As Terry pointed out, you don't need to run X to run a firewall; for that you just need a firewall script, the iptables package, and a kernel that supports iptables. (unless you use ipchains or even ipfwadm; a bit old though) Then link to it so it starts at boot, or perhaps whenever the connection comes up. The first thing you will want to do though is to stop X starting up (you did say, no graphics card ?). You'll need to boot to single user mode or similar (type "linux single" at the boot prompt; a redhat 7.3 person might be more helpful here) and login as root, remove the links that are starting gdm or kdm from /etc/rc/rc3.d (?) or better yet, just uninstall gdm and/or kdm (rpm --uninstall gdm (?)). If you do want to run X, try installing a nice thin window manager like WindowMaker (wmaker) (my favourite ;-). It will run with very little RAM. patrick (I forgot to cc the list first time I sent this...) On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions wrote: > Hey Guys, > Just hoping to get a bit of a helping hand with a server set up of Red > Hat Linux 7.3. Ive set it up on an older Pentium I machine in the hope > of bringing it back from the grave, and the installation appears to go > fine, however upon booting, KDE or GNOME fails to run, citing memory > problems (not enough) as being the cause. The machine also doesnt have a > graphics card...and this may be the obvious cause of the problems. > > Can someone point me in the right direction on this. Does RH 7.3 require > more RAM in order to run, a graphics card perhaps? I have the shell > running fine, but it's X that appears to be struggling with the current > hardware. What other options are available for aged and lesser quality > hardware? All i really need is a box that will act a firewall between my > win2k network and the internet. > > thanks in advance > > Rod. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Problems running X in Red Hat 7.3 - Help?
I've found that most boxes newer than 486 handle no graphics card. A handy thing with boxes that have no monitor is to set up a terminal on one of the serial ports, especially with a firewall where you are likely to "cut off your hands", it is nice to be able to get in still. You want to put a line in /etc/inittab (my distro has them already there, but commented out) #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100 what you're looking for is ttyS0 or ttyS1 which means serial port 1 (TeleTYpe Serial 0?) then kill -HUP 1 (init is the first process). It's also handy to put ttyS0/1 in /etc/securetty which means that you can log in directly as root, rather than as a user then SUing. The reason they aren't in there by default is that modem logins are usually over serial ports. Cheers, Woody On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:35:00PM +1100, Patrick Lesslie wrote: > > > Rod, > As Terry pointed out, you don't need to run X to > run a firewall; for that you just need a firewall script, > the iptables package, and a kernel that supports iptables. > (unless you use ipchains or even ipfwadm; a bit old though) > Then link to it so it starts at boot, or perhaps whenever > the connection comes up. > > The first thing you will want to do though is to stop X > starting up (you did say, no graphics card ?). You'll need > to boot to single user mode or similar (type "linux single" > at the boot prompt; a redhat 7.3 person might be more helpful > here) and login as root, remove the links that are starting > gdm or kdm from /etc/rc/rc3.d (?) or better yet, just > uninstall gdm and/or kdm (rpm --uninstall gdm (?)). > > If you do want to run X, try installing a nice thin window > manager like WindowMaker (wmaker) (my favourite ;-). > It will run with very little RAM. > > patrick > > (I forgot to cc the list first time I sent this...) > > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions wrote: > > > Hey Guys, > > Just hoping to get a bit of a helping hand with a server set up of Red > > Hat Linux 7.3. Ive set it up on an older Pentium I machine in the hope > > of bringing it back from the grave, and the installation appears to go > > fine, however upon booting, KDE or GNOME fails to run, citing memory > > problems (not enough) as being the cause. The machine also doesnt have a > > graphics card...and this may be the obvious cause of the problems. > > > > Can someone point me in the right direction on this. Does RH 7.3 require > > more RAM in order to run, a graphics card perhaps? I have the shell > > running fine, but it's X that appears to be struggling with the current > > hardware. What other options are available for aged and lesser quality > > hardware? All i really need is a box that will act a firewall between my > > win2k network and the internet. > > > > thanks in advance > > > > Rod. > > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- Woody -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
