[SLUG] Re: Ruby Sunday.
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:39:14PM +1000, O Plameras wrote: markt wrote: There are many issues regarding Ruby to be discussed. Has Rails done real good things to the progression of the language or more for the techniques of new-language promotion? Can one or several sluggers tell us the big picture of ruby-on-rails instead of just saying it is the hottest topic in WEB-development ? It's an MVC-based domain-specific language which makes building a certain (rather common) class of web applications quite simple, fast, and maintainable. What is ruby ? It's a programming language. What is rails ? See above. Why do people talk about both together instead of ruby or rails only. Since Rails is written in Ruby, it'd be pretty damn hard to talk about Rails for long without it. Conversely, Rails is quickly becoming a very popular system, so a lot of people are identifying the language primarily with the framework. Do I still need python, smalltalk, and perl when ruby-on-rails make these tools seem like Monte Carlo equations in web development ? You don't *need* anything. You may, however, choose to reduce your reliance on one or more of those technologies as a result of your use of Ruby and/or Rails. Why do I need YET-ANOTHER-DEVELOPMENT-FRAMEWORK when there are dozens already ? Because this one does things differently, and may suit your needs better. Thanks for your efforts ? In what way, exactly, it that a question? - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Ruby Sunday.
Matthew Palmer wrote: Thanks for your efforts ? In what way, exactly, it that a question? That should have been . not ?; silly mistake. Thanks once again. O Plameras -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Ruby Sunday.
Matthew Palmer wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:39:14PM +1000, O Plameras wrote: markt wrote: There are many issues regarding Ruby to be discussed. Has Rails done real good things to the progression of the language or more for the techniques of new-language promotion? Can one or several sluggers tell us the big picture of ruby-on-rails instead of just saying it is the hottest topic in WEB-development ? It's an MVC-based domain-specific language which makes building a certain (rather common) class of web applications quite simple, fast, and maintainable. OK, being MVC-based tells me a good big-picture of ruby-on-rails. Has anyone have experience with both ruby-on-rails and php.MVC implementations ? How does ruby-on-rails compare with php.MVC ? One O'Reilly author claims ruby-on-rails enables one to develop web applications about 10 times faster than when using other frameworks. It appears that this claim is plausible as I tried to do an MyNotes-Directory this morning using MySQL backend and got one up and running, right, perceptibly fast, and nice in about 30-minutes. It looks elegant and professional too. My only concern is it does not seem to support Cyrus-SASL. Of course I can manipulate the Views (html) but this defeats the purpose of ruby-on-rails which is RAPID-WEB-DEVELOPMENT. Disclaimer: I don't have Ruby programming experience previously; only OO programming and like some SLUGgers, I don't earn a living as a programmer (since 1995). Thanks. O Plameras -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
