[SLUG] Server licences

2011-02-21 Thread Jim Donovan
A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports that 
both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist that 
"licences are required before the server can be connected to another computer". 
Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers, whatever that 
may be, and virtualisation servers.

Can anyone explain what these licences are about, please?

Jim Donovan
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Re: [SLUG] Server licences

2011-02-21 Thread Chris Donovan
I believe Dell would be requiring a license for openmanage, and while
I'm not sure about HP, I would think they had some similar "licensing"
as well.  As for putting it on the network, that doesn't require a
license for it (as far as I know), but just the openmanage stuff.

Chris-

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Jim Donovan  wrote:
> A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports that 
> both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist that 
> "licences are required before the server can be connected to another 
> computer". Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers, 
> whatever that may be, and virtualisation servers.
>
> Can anyone explain what these licences are about, please?
>
> Jim Donovan
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Re: [SLUG] Server licences

2011-02-21 Thread Mark Walkom
Don't take this the wrong way, but what about asking HP and Dell directly
yourself.
Perhaps the client doesn't have the technical understanding to relay their
requirements and based on what the vendor is saying, reconcile them both?

On 22 February 2011 09:50, Jim Donovan  wrote:

> A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports
> that both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist
> that "licences are required before the server can be connected to another
> computer". Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers,
> whatever that may be, and virtualisation servers.
>
> Can anyone explain what these licences are about, please?
>
> Jim Donovan
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Re: [SLUG] Server licences

2011-02-21 Thread miloska
I think Dell sells RedHat licenses, RH probably needs extra licenses
for VMs or terminal server mode.

On 22 February 2011 09:50, Jim Donovan  wrote:
> A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports that 
> both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist that 
> "licences are required before the server can be connected to another 
> computer". Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers, 
> whatever that may be, and virtualisation servers.
>
> Can anyone explain what these licences are about, please?
>
> Jim Donovan
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Re: [SLUG] Server licences

2011-02-21 Thread DaZZa
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Jim Donovan  wrote:
> A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports
> that both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist
> that "licences are required before the server can be connected to another
> computer". Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers,
> whatever that may be, and virtualisation servers.

In the case of HP, they're probably talking about ILO (Integrated
Lights Out) licenses which aren't strictly necessary (despite HP
telling you otherwise), and in the case of Dell it'll be OpenManage
licenses which, again, aren't strictly necessary.

Both are out of band management solutions which mean you can access
the server even if the OS is fubar - but you don't *need* them - and,
in HP's case, you get a "basic" license with the server anyway, which
is good enough to get tot he O-O-B console and fix most problems.

Your client needs, as other people have said, to clarify with the
server vendor what these "licenses' are for.

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Re: [SLUG] Server licences

2011-02-22 Thread Jeremy Visser
Jim Donovan said:
> A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She
> reports that both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a
> suitable box insist that "licences are required before the server can
> be connected to another computer". Apparently different licences are
> needed for terminal servers, whatever that may be, and virtualisation
> servers.

Windows uses a model where you need to buy CALs (client access licenses)
to access the server remotely. If your client is not experienced dealing
with Linux systems, she may have presumed it uses the same licensing
model, where you must donate limbs on a per-device or per-user basis.



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