Re: [SLUG] Several questions after an apt-get dist-upgrade
On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 06:19:39PM +1100, Mike Lake wrote: Hi All, I have just done an apt-get dist-upgrade of an Intel 486 gateway from stable to unstable. I have just a few questions... Question 1 -- dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/doc': Directory not empty All the doc files in here are symlinks to ../share/doc/ I am presuming that unstable has decided to have all docs in /usr/share and nothing in /usr/doc and wanted to remove all those symlinks and the directory /usr/doc - is that right. In which case I can manually delete them? May as well keep them around. All that means is that the old package had stuff in /usr/doc whereas the new one doesn't. Question 2 -- dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/var/log/ksymoops': Directory not empty This currently contails lots of. -rw-r--r--1 root root32113 Sep 1 23:06 20010901230651.ksyms -rw-r--r--1 root root 222 Sep 1 23:06 20010901230651.modules Seems to be lots of temp files about loaded modules. I have deleted them all and I will see what ones reappear and when. Don't worry about it. Question 3 -- Some time ago I installed logrotate which needed mailx to be able to mail me messages and this in turn required zmailer. zmailer is a big package for high volume mail and should not be needed really. As apt-cache show zmailer says Most users don't need this package -- for most users, sendmail or exim or smail will suffice. I have exim installed. I tried to delete it: loubens:/home/admin# apt-get remove zmailer-ssl Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: logrotate mailx tripwire zmailer-ssl 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 15.5MB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Abort. The strange thing is that my Debian Alpha has logrotate and mailx but did not need zmailer. The 486 Intel does. Whats the dependencies for other peoples systems out there? dpkg --purge --force-depends zmailer-ssl apt-get install postfix (or exim, or whatever). Question 4 -- I have in my sources.lust :-) deb http://security.debian.org unstable/updates main contrib non-free I had changed the stable to unstable. I get however... Don't. unstable doesn't need a security branch, as all updates get installed in there anyway; just remove that line. :) d -- Daniel Stone[EMAIL PROTECTED] Addi It would be kind of cool to have a bunch of satelittes that were on the same trajectory as the earth around the sun, but going the other way. pudge so twice a year we all have to duck? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Several questions after an apt-get dist-upgrade
On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 10:06:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: dpkg --purge --force-depends zmailer-ssl apt-get install postfix (or exim, or whatever). apt-get install zmailer-ssl- postfix (or exim, or whatever) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Several questions after an apt-get dist-upgrade
On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 10:13:26PM +1100, getadog wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 10:06:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: dpkg --purge --force-depends zmailer-ssl apt-get install postfix (or exim, or whatever). apt-get install zmailer-ssl- postfix (or exim, or whatever) But as I mentioned the system already has exim as its MTA. zmailer provides the same thing, an MTA. I would have thought that when I installed logrotate it would need a mailer (OK) and it wanted mailx and that needed an MTA. The packaging system should have realised it had exim on and so not insisted on installing zmailer. What I can't follow is that on this Debian system here at work (Pentium) and on my Intel 486 at home zmailer is not required but on the Alpha Debian, as you can see from the apt-get lines mailx depends on zmailer. Same Debian release. Mike -- Card readers? We don't need no stinking card readers. -- Peter da Silva (at the National Academy of Sciencies, 1965, in a particularly vivid fantasy) Michael Lake, University of Technology, Sydney Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Home: http://www.speleonics.com.au Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Several questions after an apt-get dist-upgrade
Mike Lake wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 10:13:26PM +1100, getadog wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 10:06:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: dpkg --purge --force-depends zmailer-ssl apt-get install postfix (or exim, or whatever). apt-get install zmailer-ssl- postfix (or exim, or whatever) But as I mentioned the system already has exim as its MTA. zmailer provides the same thing, an MTA. I would have thought that when I installed logrotate it would need a mailer (OK) and it wanted mailx and that needed an MTA. The packaging system should have realised it had exim on and so not insisted on installing zmailer. What I can't follow is that on this Debian system here at work (Pentium) and on my Intel 486 at home zmailer is not required but on the Alpha Debian, as you can see from the apt-get lines mailx depends on zmailer. Same Debian release. Just having a look at the current mailx debs... Stable has version 1:8.1.1-11 Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.2), liblockfile1 (= 1.0), smail | mail-transport-agent Unstable Testing have version 1:8.1.2-0.20010922cvs-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.3-7), liblockfile1 (= 1.0), mail-transport-agent, base-files (= 2.2.0) These dependencies look reasonable to me. If you don't have one of these two versions, maybe you could try upgrading mailx before attempting to remove zmailer? Matthew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Several questions after an apt-get dist-upgrade
Matthew Dalton wrote: Just having a look at the current mailx debs... Stable has version 1:8.1.1-11 Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.2), liblockfile1 (= 1.0), smail | mail-transport-agent Unstable Testing have version 1:8.1.2-0.20010922cvs-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.3-7), liblockfile1 (= 1.0), mail-transport-agent, base-files (= 2.2.0) These dependencies look reasonable to me. If you don't have one of these two versions, maybe you could try upgrading mailx before attempting to remove zmailer? Good idea, I will have a look at these tonight on my Alpha and compare to the Intel versions. The Alpha may be older. -- --- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Ph: 9514 1724 Fx: 9514 1628 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Several questions after an apt-get dist-upgrade
Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew Dalton wrote: Just having a look at the current mailx debs... Stable has version 1:8.1.1-11 Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.2), liblockfile1 (= 1.0), smail | mail-transport-agent Unstable Testing have version 1:8.1.2-0.20010922cvs-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.3-7), liblockfile1 (= 1.0), mail-transport-agent, base-files (= 2.2.0) These dependencies look reasonable to me. If you don't have one of these two versions, maybe you could try upgrading mailx before attempting to remove zmailer? Good idea, I will have a look at these tonight on my Alpha and compare to the Intel versions. The Alpha may be older. alpha binaries are probably compiled on a different machine, and some of these dependencies are automatically generated, IIRC. it's possible the alpha version was incorrectly tied to zmailer. .. having to fiddle when the packages are released with oversights isn't a huge problem though. the benefits outway the costs :) it can just be confusing to start with. cheers, -- Damien Elmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Several questions after an apt-get dist-upgrade
Hi All, I have just done an apt-get dist-upgrade of an Intel 486 gateway from stable to unstable. I have just a few questions... Question 1 -- dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/doc': Directory not empty All the doc files in here are symlinks to ../share/doc/ I am presuming that unstable has decided to have all docs in /usr/share and nothing in /usr/doc and wanted to remove all those symlinks and the directory /usr/doc - is that right. In which case I can manually delete them? Question 2 -- dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/var/log/ksymoops': Directory not empty This currently contails lots of. -rw-r--r--1 root root32113 Sep 1 23:06 20010901230651.ksyms -rw-r--r--1 root root 222 Sep 1 23:06 20010901230651.modules Seems to be lots of temp files about loaded modules. I have deleted them all and I will see what ones reappear and when. Question 3 -- Some time ago I installed logrotate which needed mailx to be able to mail me messages and this in turn required zmailer. zmailer is a big package for high volume mail and should not be needed really. As apt-cache show zmailer says Most users don't need this package -- for most users, sendmail or exim or smail will suffice. I have exim installed. I tried to delete it: loubens:/home/admin# apt-get remove zmailer-ssl Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: logrotate mailx tripwire zmailer-ssl 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 15.5MB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Abort. The strange thing is that my Debian Alpha has logrotate and mailx but did not need zmailer. The 486 Intel does. Whats the dependencies for other peoples systems out there? Question 4 -- I have in my sources.lust :-) deb http://security.debian.org unstable/updates main contrib non-free I had changed the stable to unstable. I get however... W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org unstable/updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_unstable_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org unstable/updates/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_unstable_updates_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org unstable/updates/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_unstable_updates_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) Is there no unstable security branch? Surely I would not have stable in that line as that would then refer to older stable versions of software? Mike -- Michael Lake Active caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. Safety Convenor, Australian Speleological Federation Owner, Speleonics (Australia) From - Sun Dec 2 17:15:52 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0801 X-Mozilla-Status2: FCC: /home/mikel/nsmail/Sent Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 17:15:52 +1100 From: Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.4-4GB i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Several questions after an apt-get dist-upgrade References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I have just done an apt-get dist-upgrade of an Intel 486 gateway from stable to unstable. I have just a few questions... Question 1 -- dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/doc': Directory not empty All the doc files in here are symlinks to ../share/doc/ I am presuming that unstable has decided to have all docs in /usr/share and nothing in /usr/doc and wanted to remove all those symlinks and the directory /usr/doc - is that right. In which case I can manually delete them? Question 2 -- dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/var/log/ksymoops': Directory not empty This currently contails lots of. -rw-r--r--1 root root32113 Sep 1 23:06 20010901230651.ksyms -rw-r--r--1 root root 222 Sep 1 23:06 20010901230651.modules Seems to be lots of temp files about loaded modules. I have deleted them all and I will see what ones reappear and when. Question 3 -- Some time ago I installed logrotate which needed mailx to be able to mail me messages and this in turn required zmailer. zmailer is a big package for high volume mail and should not be needed really. As apt-cache show zmailer says Most users don't
