Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-31 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 21:43 +1000, Simon Wong wrote:
 I guess the basic site map is something like:
 
   Front page
   - News blog
   Page type 1
   - static content created from Template A
   Page type 2
   - static content created from Template B
   etc

So I've finally come across this one... CMS Made Simple
(http://www.cmsmadesimple.org) !!

It looks like it will do the job nicely.  You can assign different
templates to every page if you want!  It has a news module too!

I'm going to investigate it further and I'll keep y'all posted.



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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 15:57 +1000, James Polley wrote:
 cmsmatrix.org has details about a whole lot of CMSes, including a
 feature that allows you to choose the features you want and see what
 CMSes match. They're not all free though, so make sure you specify a
 cost that's appropriate (ie, probably $0)
 
 opensourcecms.com goes one step further and has demo installs of a
 whole bunch of CMSes for you to try out. You (or your sister) can have
 a play and see what you're comfortable with.

Thanks, I had a look at those sites, quite useful.  Just trying to not
be overwhelmed :-)



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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 15:55 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 I'd recommend Drupal for something simple and easy to use.

I'll have a closer look at that then.

* The ability to create new pages from templates where she can
  supply the text and pictures to fill in the template
 
 I think that's the only item that Drupal won't satisfy, but there may be a
 module to help with it.

Something that I'm struggling with is working out which ones support
multiple templates.  Most have themeing but this seems to mean for a
whole site not parts of it.

Still digging...

  I'm looking at WordPress as it seems to be the closest to what I need.
 
 You're probably best off trying something that isn't blog-centric.

I was wondering about that.

Thanks.

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Wong

 Something that I'm struggling with is working out which ones support
 multiple templates.  Most have themeing but this seems to mean for a whole
 site not parts of it.

There's a module for Drupal that lets you use a different theme for any
section.

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 16:36 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
  Something that I'm struggling with is working out which ones support
  multiple templates.  Most have themeing but this seems to mean for a whole
  site not parts of it.
 
 There's a module for Drupal that lets you use a different theme for any
 section.

Finally found it: http://drupal.org/project/sections

Have you used it and does it work reliably?

The other thing I want is a mix of static html pages and pages that have
dynamic content.  Is this easy to do with drupal or is it just a matter
of coding the static pages separately and linking appropriately?


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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Wong

 Finally found it: http://drupal.org/project/sections
 
 Have you used it and does it work reliably?

No and Dunno. ;-)

 The other thing I want is a mix of static html pages and pages that have
 dynamic content.  Is this easy to do with drupal or is it just a matter of
 coding the static pages separately and linking appropriately?

You want actual static pages served by the server (harder to do, you'd need
to use Alias directives in Apache), as opposed to static paths for nodes in
the CMS (which Drupal does very nicely)?

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Andrew d
Maybe you should look at a CGI based CMS - Blosxom is light weight easy 
to use - visit


http://www.blosxom.com

As it states
Blogging--and, indeed, any online publishing-- should be as simple as 
typing away in your favourite text editor and hitting Save. Fundamental 
is Blosxom's reliance upon the file system, folders and files as its 
content database. Entries are plain text files like any other.

Andrew D

Jeff Waugh wrote:

quote who=Simon Wong


Finally found it: http://drupal.org/project/sections

Have you used it and does it work reliably?



No and Dunno. ;-)



The other thing I want is a mix of static html pages and pages that have
dynamic content.  Is this easy to do with drupal or is it just a matter of
coding the static pages separately and linking appropriately?



You want actual static pages served by the server (harder to do, you'd need
to use Alias directives in Apache), as opposed to static paths for nodes in
the CMS (which Drupal does very nicely)?

- Jeff



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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Andrew d

 Maybe you should look at a CGI based CMS - Blosxom is light weight easy 
 to use - visit
 
 http://www.blosxom.com

Blosxom is a blog tool, not a CMS! :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 17:40 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 You want actual static pages served by the server (harder to do, you'd need
 to use Alias directives in Apache), as opposed to static paths for nodes in
 the CMS (which Drupal does very nicely)?

I think I'm still trying to work out what I want :-(

I guess the basic site map is something like:

Front page
- News blog
Page type 1
- static content created from Template A
Page type 2
- static content created from Template B
etc

I want to give her the ability to create those pages from pre-configured
Templates that essentially have placeholders for text (paste it into a
form) and images (browse file to upload).

Does that clarify my needs?

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 18:36 +1000, Andrew d wrote:
 Maybe you should look at a CGI based CMS - Blosxom is light weight easy 
 to use - visit

Had a look but not sure it does what I need wrt templates for different
pages.

I don't think that a pure blogging tool is what I want, see my other
reply to Jeff.



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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Andrew d
indymedia use to run on Postgresql (http://active.org.au/doc/) 
http://sydney.indymedia.org/


Nick Croft wrote:

* Jeff Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:


quote who=Simon Wong


Finally found it: http://drupal.org/project/sections



I'm also interested in cms. I've got postgresql in place on my server.
It seems drupal uses mysql. 


Two questions:

Is there a cms which uses postgresql?

What performance loss would I face with a web-server running both 
mysql and postgresql?


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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Nick Croft

 I'm also interested in cms. I've got postgresql in place on my server.
 It seems drupal uses mysql. 

You can use PostgreSQL with Drupal too, but it's not as well supported (most
modules only include MySQL schemas, etc).

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Wong

 I guess the basic site map is something like:
 
   Front page
   - News blog

That's the default for Drupal. Anything posted as a 'story' node can be
published to the front page, just like a news blog style thingy.

   Page type 1
   - static content created from Template A
 
   Page type 2
   - static content created from Template B

You can create a 'page' node with a static path (/page-one/ for instance). I
really don't know about templates though.

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread James Polley
On 8/30/05, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 quote who=Simon Wong
 
 You can create a 'page' node with a static path (/page-one/ for instance). I
 really don't know about templates though.
 
 - Jeff

Depending on how complex the templates you invisage are, the flexinode
module may do what you need

http://drupal.org/project/flexinode


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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread James Polley
On 8/30/05, James Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Depending on how complex the templates you invisage are, the flexinode

Dammit, I'm only meant to do spelling mistakes inside grammar flames..

envisage is what I meant..

unfortunately there's a paucity of useful documention online about
flexinode, and I've not played with it myself. the demo on
opensourcecms.com doesn't include the flexinode module either, so you
can't test it there..

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=James Polley

 On 8/30/05, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  quote who=Simon Wong
  
  You can create a 'page' node with a static path (/page-one/ for instance). I
  really don't know about templates though.
 
 Depending on how complex the templates you invisage are, the flexinode
 module may do what you need
 
 http://drupal.org/project/flexinode

So I talked to the Drupal dudes who were at OSCON about a site I'm building,
and they said (with their fingers in crosses), NO WAY IN HELL should you use
flexinode on a real website (one that gets traffic). Too loady (database),
hard to administer, painful to recover.

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 23:30 +1000, James Polley wrote:
 unfortunately there's a paucity of useful documention online about
 flexinode, and I've not played with it myself. the demo on
 opensourcecms.com doesn't include the flexinode module either, so you
 can't test it there..

I did see that module but didn't find any documentation.



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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 23:42 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 So I talked to the Drupal dudes who were at OSCON about a site I'm building,
 and they said (with their fingers in crosses), NO WAY IN HELL should you use
 flexinode on a real website (one that gets traffic). Too loady (database),
 hard to administer, painful to recover.

hmmm, OK maybe I'll pass on that one then.


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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 23:07 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 You can create a 'page' node with a static path (/page-one/ for instance). I
 really don't know about templates though.

Funny thing is that I thought that's what CMSs were for and given the
number of FOSS ones around I thought this was going to be easy :-(

Maybe this is why so many people say that they've made their own but
that's seems crazy or just some sort of masochism.

Anyway thanks for your help, Jeff and for your comments James and
Andrew.

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-30 Thread Peter Chubb
 Simon == Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Simon On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 23:07 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 You can create a 'page' node with a static path (/page-one/ for
 instance). I really don't know about templates though.

Simon Funny thing is that I thought that's what CMSs were for and
Simon given the number of FOSS ones around I thought this was going
Simon to be easy :-(

Another possibility is to use a Wiki, like Moin.  You can have pages
setup by template, etc., and you can mark pages as static/unchangeable
(although it requires a bit of setup to do that)

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[SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-29 Thread Simon Wong
Hi everyone!

I'm looking to setup a very basic CMS for my sister's website.

It only needs to be quite simple with the following capabilities:
  * A blog where she can put up her latest news
  * Static HTML pages
  * The ability to create new pages from templates where she can
supply the text and pictures to fill in the template
  * All done server side so she can do updates from any browser.
  * MySQL DB and PHP (+ static HTML)

I'm looking at WordPress as it seems to be the closest to what I need.

Does anyone have any suggestions for this style of site or feedback on
using WordPress?

Most of the CMS's seem to be overpowered, they mostly seem to be based
around community sites with forums etc that she just doesn't need.

Thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Wong

 I'm looking to setup a very basic CMS for my sister's website.

I'd recommend Drupal for something simple and easy to use.

 It only needs to be quite simple with the following capabilities:
   * A blog where she can put up her latest news
   * Static HTML pages
   * The ability to create new pages from templates where she can
 supply the text and pictures to fill in the template

I think that's the only item that Drupal won't satisfy, but there may be a
module to help with it.

   * All done server side so she can do updates from any browser.
   * MySQL DB and PHP (+ static HTML)
 
 I'm looking at WordPress as it seems to be the closest to what I need.

You're probably best off trying something that isn't blog-centric.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-29 Thread James Polley
No suggestion per se, just two useful websites..

cmsmatrix.org has details about a whole lot of CMSes, including a
feature that allows you to choose the features you want and see what
CMSes match. They're not all free though, so make sure you specify a
cost that's appropriate (ie, probably $0)

opensourcecms.com goes one step further and has demo installs of a
whole bunch of CMSes for you to try out. You (or your sister) can have
a play and see what you're comfortable with.

On 8/30/05, Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 
 I'm looking to setup a very basic CMS for my sister's website.
 
 It only needs to be quite simple with the following capabilities:
   * A blog where she can put up her latest news
   * Static HTML pages
   * The ability to create new pages from templates where she can
 supply the text and pictures to fill in the template
   * All done server side so she can do updates from any browser.
   * MySQL DB and PHP (+ static HTML)
 
 I'm looking at WordPress as it seems to be the closest to what I need.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions for this style of site or feedback on
 using WordPress?
 
 Most of the CMS's seem to be overpowered, they mostly seem to be based
 around community sites with forums etc that she just doesn't need.
 
 Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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